Repatriation Of Uk Citizen

[beano2274]

About a friend not me before I start.

A guy I have known for many years is down and out around Chiangmai, I have lent him money before to help him, his family have also done the same. He had jobs in Bangkok but lost them due to his heavy drinking, now his family have told him no more, and I am unwilling to help him with money. He has moved back to Chiangmai to be with his son, whose mother is Thai and wants nothing to do with him as well, in fact she called the Police to take him away but they couldn't as he had done nothing wrong, although he has no passport or visa, which is an immigration thing, according to the Police.

Anyhow how could be go about being repatriated back to the UK? Does he need to see the Honorary Consul in CM, if so where is the Consul. And how long would it take for him to be repatriated?

thanks for any assistance.

Edited August 25, 2011 by beano2274

[Mario2008]

Repatriation will be his responsibility and next they will expect his family to help him, before the embassy/consuate might step in. That will take some time, as they probably want to be sure his family is not helping him. Yes, he will need to see the Honorary Consul:

http://ukinthailand.fco.gov.uk/en/about-us/other-locations/chiangmai/contact-details/

But it will take time.

It appears he is on overstay also, as he doesn't have a passport. So he needs a new passport, 20,000 for the overstay fine and a ticket back and help for when he arrives back in the UK.

Being arrested and deported by immigration is not a good idea. He will be fined and next jailed because he can't pay the fine. Next he can be detained till he has a ticket out of the country.

[beano2274]

I was thinking that an Emergency Passport could be issued for his repatriation.

He is already known to the British Embassy in Bangkok, who also have his family's contact details, as about 1.5years ago he had no passport was on overstay as well, and had no money, the Embassy helped him to get the passport sorted out.

[Mario2008]

Yes, an emergency pasport could be issued. But that is only part of the problem and costs money as well.

A rough guess is he needs at least about 50,000 in all for passport, overstay and ticket.

[beano2274]

I was under the impression that the Embassy would get the ticket sorted out but that the money would be recuperated somehow from you whilst in the UK, or from family members.

[Mario2008]

That is probably what will happen, but suspect they will first try the family before they will pay themselves. Embassies are normally very reluctant to give financial help and wil l contact the family first.

The embassy is really a last resort, when all else fails.

[beano2274]

Actually looking to involve SSAFA, as he was an ex serving member of the Forces, and I know there is a contact person in the British Embassy.

[Mario2008]

Certainly worth a try and it seems he doesn't have much options, so the consulate must be involved anyway.

Preferably before the ex contacts immigration instead of the police.

[Will27]

I'm not trying to rain on the parade, but is the guy actually willing to go back?

Also, good luck with the UK Embassy. I have dealt with them several

times and they have not once, come up with a ticket or money.

Good luck.

Regards

Will

Edited August 25, 2011 by Will27

[beano2274]

I'm not trying to rain on the parade, but is the guy actually willing to go back?

Also, good luck with the UK Embassy. I have dealt with them several

times and they have not once, come up with a ticket or money.

Good luck.

Regards

Will

He knows that he only has two choices, as he old GF will kick him out or go to the Immigration

Police. I have spoken to him and passed his phone number to the Embassy, they are already aware

of the situation, and have previously had dealings with him.

[beano2274]

A problem has now arisen in that a language center in Bangkok has now offered him a job for a month in Bangkok on a summer camp, with the promise of more work.

The center is giving him accommodation as well, and payment by the day, although he has no passport, he also told them he had no Degree but they said that this is okay, so obviously he is gonna take it. Now he needs to find the money to get to Bangkok.

Edited September 2, 2011 by sbk
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[7by7]

He is already known to the British Embassy in Bangkok, who also have his family's contact details, as about 1.5years ago he had no passport was on overstay as well, and had no money, the Embassy helped him to get the passport sorted out.

Yet he is still in Thailand and is now thinking of staying there and working illegally; no passport = no work permit.

What happened to the passport the embassy organised for him 1.5 years ago?

Why didn't he return to the UK then?

[Thongkorn]

Because he is still ,living the dream , sorry living in a dream < there are many British people sleeping rough in Thailand who do not have any intention of going back to the UK. and why should the British tax payer bail them out after turning there back on the country. or starting a new life on a shoe string.

[Basil B]

A problem has now arisen in that a language center in Bangkok , has now offered him a job for a month in Bangkok on a summer camp, with the promise of more work.

The center is giving him accommodation as well, and payment by the day, although he has no passport, he also told them he had no Degree but they said that this is okay, so obviously he is gonna take it. Now he needs to find the money to get to Bangkok.

Giving the name would be libelous if the guy was stringing you a long with lies just to cadge off you...

Sorry to be callous on this this and the gentleman in question may be a nice guy just down on his luck but there are so many people who want to get by cadging of other people or the state.

Some times "thinking outside the box" helps get a better prospective.

wounder why he came and tried to make Thailand his home? suspect like so many others who say they want out of the UK because the taxes are so high, yet now if when deported will end up back in the UK with free accommodation, health care and cash handout from the state funded by us who pay our taxes.

Edited September 2, 2011 by sbk

[beano2274]

A problem has now arisen in that a language center in Bangkok has now offered him a job for a month in Bangkok on a summer camp, with the promise of more work.

The center is giving him accommodation as well, and payment by the day, although he has no passport, he also told them he had no Degree but they said that this is okay, so obviously he is gonna take it. Now he needs to find the money to get to Bangkok.

Giving the name would be libelous if the guy was stringing you a long with lies just to cadge off you...

Sorry to be callous on this this and the gentleman in question may be a nice guy just down on his luck but there are so many people who want to get by cadging of other people or the state.

Some times "thinking outside the box" helps get a better prospective.

wounder why he came and tried to make Thailand his home? suspect like so many others who say they want out of the UK because the taxes are so high, yet now if when deported will end up back in the UK with free accommodation, health care and cash handout from the state funded by us who pay our taxes.

No he left England cause he had been arrested before, and decided to do a runner. If he goes back he might end up with a nice room with a view of an exercise yard.

Edited September 2, 2011 by sbk

[7by7]

The embassy have, from what you say, tried to help him return to the UK before. Now it seems he refused that help because he's a suspected criminal on the run from the UK police.

Yet you appear to expect sympathy for him from us?

None coming from this direction; he should return to the UK and clear his name if he is innocent or accept his punishment if he is guilty.

[beano2274]

The Embassy helped him get a passport, I do not think his criminality in the UK is something they would know about, or have been informed about.

I don't want sympathy for him, I would kick him onto the plane myself, but the problems are, getting him on the plane and getting the money for the flight home. The money one has nothing to do with me or anyone else, except him and his family, the kicking on the plane is easy enough

[paully]

Because he is still ,living the dream , sorry living in a dream

If he's still in a dream, you can't do anything for him. He had a passport organised for him previously and did nothing about it. Why would it change this time?

[beano2274]

The latest news - he went to the Embassy yesterday, and his Mum had deposited 200GBP for him, she is going to buy him a ticket home to the UK, and he will be checked into a clinic for his alcohol problem.

The British Embassy have told him they will sort out his Emergency Passport and the overstay he has, which I believe means he will not be paying it.

Next week he will hopefully be in the UK, and his return to Thailand might be in a few years, cause I know he will be back.

[Basil B]

I doubt the British Embassy can persuade the Thai immigration to wave the overstay fine.

Wonder why he was arrested and did a runner from the UK, is he a conman by any chance?

[beano2274]

I doubt the British Embassy can persuade the Thai immigration to wave the overstay fine.

Wonder why he was arrested and did a runner from the UK, is he a conman by any chance?

Am not sure what the Embassy will do, but that is what he told me. Maybe if he uses an Emergency Passport then there will be no

records that they can search for therefore he could leave without having an overstay fine.

[Badbanker]

No, I am sorry to rain on the parade!

An emergency passport must still be stamped by immigration and the embassy must still provide a facilitatory letter stating that the original passport is lost.

If he doesn't have the 20k surrender yourself to the IDC in Bangkok and get the 3-5,000 baht fine in court and then he can fly home without the 20k worry!

If done correctly he is only inside for 8 hours!

Been there done that.

Badbanker

Edited September 14, 2011 by Badbanker

[beano2274]

He got into trouble last night and the money his mum sent him has all gone, he went to the Embassy this morning and was told by him Mum she was not gonna send him any money, and that is was better if he handed himself in, so he is getting enough dutch courage that 700baht can pay for, then he is gonna go to the Immigration Office in Suan Phlu. The ticket to go back to the UK will be available in 2 days time, according to what he told me.

Edited September 14, 2011 by beano2274

[Badbanker]

He got into trouble last night and the money his mum sent him has all gone, he went to the Embassy this morning and was told by him Mum she was not gonna send him any money, and that is was better if he handed himself in, so he is getting enough dutch courage that 700baht can pay for, then he is gonna go to the Immigration Office in Suan Phlu. The ticket to go back to the UK will be available in 2 days time, according to what he told me.

I think this is the best situation and it will work out best for him.

[paully]

^ Yes, hopefully his Thai 'dream' has ended this time. But somehow you just know he'll be back.

[beano2274]

^ Yes, hopefully his Thai 'dream' has ended this time. But somehow you just know he'll be back.

I don't think so, I know so. He will be back when he can get another Passport and the money to come over.

[paully]

And so it starts again...sigh

[7by7]

But not here.