webfact Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 PM has 'no plan' to meet Suu Kyi on Burma trip THE NATION Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra has no schedule to meet Nobel laureate and democracy icon Aung San Suu Kyi when she pays a courtesy call on Burma next Wednesday, a government official said yesterday. Yingluck will meet only with President Thein Sein in the capital Naypyidaw and see only Burmese government officials during the one-day trip, the official said. It is just a regular official visit to introduce herself after taking office to strengthen relations between |the two neighbours, the official said. As part of Asean practice for new leaders, Yingluck has been greeting her counterparts in member countries on day trips. Next will be Malaysia on October 11 and Singapore on October 12, followed by non-member China from October 19-21, the official said. Foreign Minister Surapong Towichukchaikul had discussed Yingluck's planned visit with his Burmese counterpart Wunna Maung Lwin when they met in New York last week on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly. Media have speculated that Yingluck might seek an opportunity to confer with Suu Kyi but no official has confirmed the reports. Suu Kyi congratulated Yingluck when she won the July 3 election and hoped the first female prime minister of Thailand would support efforts in Burma to install democracy and restore national unity. The pro-democracy leader is now in the process of making peace and reconciling with the elected Burmese government. She met with President Thein Sein in August to discuss political reform in the country, which was ruled by a military junta for a long time. The political situation in the country is now relaxed and Suu Kyi was allowed to make a political trip outside Rangoon as well as to meet foreigners, including many high-ranking officials from the United Nations, the United States and Europe. -- The Nation 2011-09-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Maybe it's Aung san suu that has no plans to meet with Yingluck. Would you really wanna be seen with someone who wants Thaksin back so he can run Thailand like the generals in Burma do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Maybe it's Aung san suu that has no plans to meet with Yingluck. Would you really wanna be seen with someone who wants Thaksin back so he can run Thailand like the generals in Burma do. If you knew anything about Thai-Burmese relations during the Thaksin era you have known that they were hostile to the point that the Thai military entered Burma to take on the drug cartels that were running wild in the border region of Thailand. If Thailand was managed as per the Burmese model, most foreigners would be removed from Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsupdoc Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 But no problem with a soft loan benefitting Shin Corp?? Guess the Thai-Burmese relations weren't that bad... Maybe it's Aung san suu that has no plans to meet with Yingluck. Would you really wanna be seen with someone who wants Thaksin back so he can run Thailand like the generals in Burma do. If you knew anything about Thai-Burmese relations during the Thaksin era you have known that they were hostile to the point that the Thai military entered Burma to take on the drug cartels that were running wild in the border region of Thailand. If Thailand was managed as per the Burmese model, most foreigners would be removed from Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I would be surprised if they actually met and talked. Nothing in common really. Yingluck is a joke at best. Suu Kyi on the other hand is a true fighter for democarcy, and really cares for the Burmese people of all backgrounds. They have 0 in common. Yingluck will make a showing "Big Deal" The Burmese Govt. will be laughing their butt's off at what a buffoon Thailand has for a PM. With all do respect of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Maybe it's Aung san suu that has no plans to meet with Yingluck. Would you really wanna be seen with someone who wants Thaksin back so he can run Thailand like the generals in Burma do. If you knew anything about Thai-Burmese relations during the Thaksin era you have known that they were hostile to the point that the Thai military entered Burma to take on the drug cartels that were running wild in the border region of Thailand. If Thailand was managed as per the Burmese model, most foreigners would be removed from Thailand. Yes, Thais was allowed into parts of Burma that is not controlled by the Junta. Helping the Junta to fight the freedom fighters. Yes, they finance their civil war with drug money. Yes, when Thaksin has absolute power, most foreigners will be removed from Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Maybe it's Aung san suu that has no plans to meet with Yingluck. Would you really wanna be seen with someone who wants Thaksin back so he can run Thailand like the generals in Burma do. If you knew anything about Thai-Burmese relations during the Thaksin era you have known that they were hostile to the point that the Thai military entered Burma to take on the drug cartels that were running wild in the border region of Thailand. If Thailand was managed as per the Burmese model, most foreigners would be removed from Thailand. Thakisn doesn't care about anyone but himself. If you think he cares about foreigners, you're seriously deluded. Unless you have money here in Thailand, you're of no use to him. You'll be out the door sooner than you can say 'dictatorship'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Suu Kyi congratulated Yingluck when she won the July 3 election and hoped the first female prime minister of Thailand would support efforts in Burma to install democracy and restore national unity. Rather a forlorn hope. Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Suu Kyi congratulated Yingluck when she won the July 3 election and hoped the first female prime minister of Thailand would support efforts in Burma to install democracy and restore national unity. Rather a forlorn hope. Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Perhaps Yingluck doesn't want a lesson in democracy. Better to meet the generals than meet with the Lady! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackout Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 That's good for her. i mean Suu Kyi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Huh? I thought she had just come to power through a free and fair election. In terms of national unity efforts, the jury's still out but she can hardly do worse than Abhisit (who at times and during the election campaign seemed to be striving for the opposite). As to Burma there will be no change of policy.Too many Sino Thai business interests involved, now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Suu Kyi congratulated Yingluck when she won the July 3 election and hoped the first female prime minister of Thailand would support efforts in Burma to install democracy and restore national unity. Rather a forlorn hope. Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Perhaps Yingluck doesn't want a lesson in democracy. Better to meet the generals than meet with the Lady! I don't blame Yingluck for not meeting with ASSK. What could she possibly have to say to her? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Huh? I thought she had just come to power through a free and fair election. In terms of national unity efforts, the jury's still out but she can hardly do worse than Abhisit (who at times and during the election campaign seemed to be striving for the opposite). As to Burma there will be no change of policy.Too many Sino Thai business interests involved, now and then. Who called, and under what government was the free and fair election held, and what have the winners done to restore unity since? Quite aside from the fact that one election does not a democracy make. Interference in the judiciary is no part of a democracy, and nothing the present government has done so far even points towards moving towards one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Suu Kyi congratulated Yingluck when she won the July 3 election and hoped the first female prime minister of Thailand would support efforts in Burma to install democracy and restore national unity. Rather a forlorn hope. Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Perhaps Yingluck doesn't want a lesson in democracy. Better to meet the generals than meet with the Lady! I don't blame Yingluck for not meeting with ASSK. What could she possibly have to say to her? She could make small talk, like "I flew here in a big green submarine". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Wasn't it just a couple of years ago that the big leader compared himself to Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela. Be aware the photo below has been denied by Nelson Mandela but not by Thaksin. http://saiyasombut.wordpress.com/2010/09/01/did-thaksin-really-met-nelson-mandela/ Note to the great leader: clean hand after toilet and shaking hands. Edited September 30, 2011 by PoorSucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siam Simon Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 This 'news' article is stupid beyond belief. Thai leaders don't meet Suu Kyi. Abhisit didn't meet her on his equally short visit, and he gave very obvious (if diplomatically oblique) reasons why such things are non-starters. This piece of non-news sums up the daft attempts by certain media to put a negative spin on anything connected to the new government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 This 'news' article is stupid beyond belief. Thai leaders don't meet Suu Kyi. Abhisit didn't meet her on his equally short visit, and he gave very obvious (if diplomatically oblique) reasons why such things are non-starters. This piece of non-news sums up the daft attempts by certain media to put a negative spin on anything connected to the new government. Wasn't Suu Kyi still under house arrest last time Abhisit visited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 You would think that the PTP leaders, such strong supporters of democracy, vehemently anti-coup, and defenders of the people would support their brothers and sisters in neighbouring Cambodia and Burma instead of hobnobbing with the amart. Red hypocrites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgato Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Suu Kyi is not being visited because she is (unfortunately) not PM of "Myanmar". "As part of Asean practice for new leaders, Yingluck has been greeting her counterparts in member countries on day trips." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 You would think that the PTP leaders, such strong supporters of democracy, vehemently anti-coup, and defenders of the people would support their brothers and sisters in neighbouring Cambodia and Burma instead of hobnobbing with the amart. Red hypocrites It isn't hypocritical at all as that's all they do in Thailand, well, their version of the Amart anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 how long is she going for, 2 weeks?!!! what? sorry, what? oh, a day... i see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Huh? I thought she had just come to power through a free and fair election. In terms of national unity efforts, the jury's still out but she can hardly do worse than Abhisit (who at times and during the election campaign seemed to be striving for the opposite). As to Burma there will be no change of policy.Too many Sino Thai business interests involved, now and then. Who called, and under what government was the free and fair election held, and what have the winners done to restore unity since? Quite aside from the fact that one election does not a democracy make. Interference in the judiciary is no part of a democracy, and nothing the present government has done so far even points towards moving towards one. Regular elections are prescribed under recent Thai constitutions.Governments don't get credit for this though credit is due to Abhisit for playing by the rules (finally).It's also thank goodness almost impossible to "fix" elections in this country.I never disputed that one election doesn't make a democracy - of course other aspects are involved.I assume you are having a little joke about interference in the judiciary given the shocking history of unelected elites in this area.To date I think the current government has done rather well in promoting national unity, with temperate language and no evidence of seeking revenge on its non elected opponents.I realise it's frustrating for Democrat supporters that their party keeps losing election after election.Perhaps it might be time to smell the coffee and accept the reasons why continually get slapped round the face (metaphorically), namely there are now millions and millions of Thais they need to win over.Or as I half suspect they can take the lazy way out and just keep on whining about Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Thakisn doesn't care about anyone but himself. If you think he cares about foreigners, you're seriously deluded. Unless you have money here in Thailand, you're of no use to him. You'll be out the door sooner than you can say 'dictatorship'. Wasn't it during the Thaksin, Thai Rak Thai era, that for foreigners, the financial requirements for retirement and marriage, increased 100%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKrayTriplet Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Wasn't it just a couple of years ago that the big leader compared himself to Aung San Suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela. Be aware the photo below has been denied by Nelson Mandela but not by Thaksin. http://saiyasombut.w...nelson-mandela/ Note to the great leader: clean hand after toilet and shaking hands. Actually, be aware that the Nelson Mandela Foundation said they did not have any photos of the meeting, not that Thaksin would more than likely get a photograph taken of the pair of them. This of course, brought the great and the good out on to the forum variously declaring that Thaksin had never met Mandela, that the photograph was photoshopped (obviously using highly sophisticated techniques to be able to tell from a low res online copy of the photograph) and that Thaksin was actually dead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Yingluck has shown no inclination to install democracy and restore national unity in her own country, let alone a neighbouring one. Huh? I thought she had just come to power through a free and fair election. In terms of national unity efforts, the jury's still out but she can hardly do worse than Abhisit (who at times and during the election campaign seemed to be striving for the opposite). As to Burma there will be no change of policy.Too many Sino Thai business interests involved, now and then. Who called, and under what government was the free and fair election held, and what have the winners done to restore unity since? Quite aside from the fact that one election does not a democracy make. Interference in the judiciary is no part of a democracy, and nothing the present government has done so far even points towards moving towards one. Regular elections are prescribed under recent Thai constitutions.Governments don't get credit for this though credit is due to Abhisit for playing by the rules (finally).It's also thank goodness almost impossible to "fix" elections in this country.I never disputed that one election doesn't make a democracy - of course other aspects are involved.I assume you are having a little joke about interference in the judiciary given the shocking history of unelected elites in this area.To date I think the current government has done rather well in promoting national unity, with temperate language and no evidence of seeking revenge on its non elected opponents.I realise it's frustrating for Democrat supporters that their party keeps losing election after election.Perhaps it might be time to smell the coffee and accept the reasons why continually get slapped round the face (metaphorically), namely there are now millions and millions of Thais they need to win over.Or as I half suspect they can take the lazy way out and just keep on whining about Thaksin. You are confusing the current lack of obvious protest and violence on the streets with "national unity", and also giving the credit for that to the wrong side. We now have an opposition who look at legal ways of censuring the self serving actions of the government, rather than paying their supporters to bomb, loot and burn. It's interesting how "reconciliation" and national unity" are the new PTP buzz words, although someone obviously forgot to tell Chalerm that, now that they have a "mandate to do whatever they like". (Once they find a way around the "inconvenient" charges laid against their defacto leader and many of their list MP's. And one wonders just what would have happened to this brave new version of Thailand had they not been able to form the government, or what part 'reconciliation" and "national unity" played in the breakdown of the six (seven?) person talks last year). That is in no way the definition of democracy. If it were, there could be no objection to Bangkok and the South splitting from the North and Northeast - after all, it was pretty clear who "won" that region. There could also be no objection to people like Suthep being MP's - after all, he stood in a constituency and clearly got the most votes. In a true democracy the rights and opinions of the minority, in this case quite a substantial one, despite the deluded reports of "landslides" and "routs", are taken into account. In a true democracy people like Suthep, and indeed most of the current group of MP's on all sides, would not even be allowed to stand for election, (and many would most likely be imprisoned). Reading the posts on many threads of this forum the conclusion can be made that one of the differences between pro and anti Thaksin posters is that the pro Thaksin ones point out and condemn corruption in the opposition, and either refuse to accept Thaksin was involved ("politically motivated", "retroactive laws"...), or use the fact that others were/are also corrupt as an excuse for him. Whereas, the anti Thaksin posters seem to be in favour of politicians from all sides being fairly tried and convicted on corruption counts. I have yet to see an anti Thaksin poster (which, despite your and others attempts to make it out as, is definitely not the same thing as being pro Democrat) come out with a mindless defence of, for example, Suthep, in the same way that any thread on Thaksin's conviction turns into a concerted denial and /or defence of his wrong doings from the usual suspects. No, this government is definitely not moving Thailand closer to democracy. (And, that it may be argued that the previous Democrat one also didn't, has nothing to do with, and in no way mitigates, that fact). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnski12 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I was a bit stunned to find out the population of Myanmar is around 50 Million! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETDCAT Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 This is like Kim Kardashian thinking she has a lot in common with Meryl Streep because they are both actors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Look at the picture behind Mr M... looks like someone being offed by a gun to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 This 'news' article is stupid beyond belief. Thai leaders don't meet Suu Kyi. Abhisit didn't meet her on his equally short visit, and he gave very obvious (if diplomatically oblique) reasons why such things are non-starters. This piece of non-news sums up the daft attempts by certain media to put a negative spin on anything connected to the new government. Well that does not need much effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanaka Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 This is like Kim Kardashian thinking she has a lot in common with Meryl Streep because they are both actors. Kardashian is an actor? Did you read that in MAD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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