wildorchid Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 how about today, i run a small business i'm a lady of education and of good morale background, today again have lady come to my business and she talk about herself and her story, she is a bargirl and is very lucky and find a man who want to take care of her and love her she can now change her life from "kalee" (prostitute) to a normal lady person and have opertunity to live in another country and compleatly change her life she can make her family proud and happy in herself because don't have to sell sex every night for any man with 500 bath, BUT in real she not change herself and take another man even thou her boyfriend make everything for a visa to come to his country and change her life very big, still today she tell me i think maybe i pregnage with another black man her customer but her boyfriend is from italy and very white !!!!! so what is her choice keep a baby or not keep or kill this happen often with kalee and thai lady who take many man just for happy holiday, she tell me also she can make very good money when her boyfriend go to work in the day she can find any man who want her for 1 hour and she can MAKE very good money, i feel very very sorry for his family because she make this not just to herself but to her family to her husband / boyfriend and his family and grandfather grandmother, my husband and i think about this and talk often and dificulte to understand why they do not change they'er lifestyle. all the people in all the world different, that makes us who we are, we have a free choice, if we are honest with ourself's then we are happy with the choices that we make be them correct or not they are still our choice. you need to be very carefull the land of smile is a beautiful place, full of romance and advanture, and happy endings for thos who like this. my husband still confused how a lady can make this to her new boyfriend, i hope that the lady will stop to sell her body and find real love and happieness in herself. please i want to know really how about farang that come to thailand are you proud to say my wife is a bargirl "prostitute" because real thai culture can not acept a lady who make this in to they'er family, i do not judge you or a lady but i just want to know deep and real because my husband and i talk about how this can happen often, people all the world are the same some are good some are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalkingMan Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 This topic might end up being too hot for this forum, but if you really want feedback then you might want to look for one of the night life forums. However, members of those forums can be aggressive with this topic so you will need to have thick skin. As far as the money thing... For some of the ladies money is just like a drug and no matter what they have, they will try to get more. Hence when her boyfriend is away she still "goes out." Also note that many, many families are aware of exactly what the girl is doing and, as long as the money comes in, they don't worry. One girl told me that once her daughter hits 18 she was going to take her to bars in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardholder Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 No such thing as prostitution in Thailand so the mods will probably keep this thread open. On the other hand they are more likely to be bored with trolls and it will have a short life-span Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I really can't see how this has anything to do with the female members of this forum, I highly doubt that many of them are patronizing and even marrying bargirls. As for the troll comment, well lets just say this is a regular theme of this poster, so it would seem she finds prostitution offensive, an opinion that is certainly her right to hold I am sure we would all agree. We are all entitled to our opinions and as long as they are not abusive, racist or in violation of forum rules in some way, entitled to discuss. As is the OP entitled to not be abused or flamed for holding an opinion others may disagree with. IF this topic can be kept civil, then I don't see why it can't stay open in Pub. However, the first poster that crosses the line into abuse, flaming, or any other derogatory generalizations will see their posting rights suspended for 3 days. I am not feeling inclined to mercy. //MOVED to Pub// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanForbes Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The OP is obviously a proper Thai woman and I would partially agree with her... with a few provisions. I can only reply from what I said on another, similar topic... It can be addicting for a young, pretty gal to work in a popular bar. They get all that attention and feel they can do anything... which very often they can. It only strikes home when they get to their mid thirties and their customers start dropping off. At that point it gets pretty tough on them and they've become too hardened to accept a normal life. Their heart has been broken a hundred times and they don't trust anyone. They will scheme, lie, cheat or even steal to maintain their standards. At that point it becomes the old saying of... "You can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl." Pretty women everywhere get the attention of men. It becomes like a drug to them and they quickly learn to use their looks to manipulate docile men. If you've ever gone to a university anywhere you will notice the pretty, cheerleader type gals are the center of attention. The beauty queens get chosen as the president of the sorieties and all the clubs. Thailand is no different from that aspect. Young men and women get bored out in the sticks. They want the excitement of the city life. The pretty girls quickly realize they are in demand and they thrive on the excitement. They work in the bars by choice and don't want to leave. And, speaking as a man, I don't know ANY man who would prefer to have sex with a woman in her 60s in preference to someone young and beautiful. That is why Viagra and Cialis are so popular. It's not because men have a physical problem. It's just a case where they just are not interested in sex with their old wife any more. It's unfortunate, but it is the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts. I know a few Thai girls who are 14 and 15 and if you didn't know better, you would guess their age at closer to early twenties. Conversely, I know a few Thai gals in their mid twenties who look like school children. That is how some teenagers get to work in bars with questionable ethics. I happen to know two women in their twenties who worked in hooker bars from the time they were 15.. and it was their mother who pimped them. So, all I am saying is you can make general statements, but there are always exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackandwhite Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I have read some odd stuff here before but this is different. The sad fact is that if this lady that has told the story of here love of making money by having sex then there is a very sad outcome coming which is a child starting n uncertain life but who is bad here another falang has been to Thailand and used the sex trade in an uneducated and irresponsible manor and left his mark.The victim here being the pregnant lady and unborn child the victim is most probably under educated and does not understand the true value of a normal life. Sad. Also the other possibility is that the the lady visiting the OP feels inferior due the fact the OP has a status above her and is simply trying to put herself on a higher pedistallplatform by making up stories about her life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needforspeed Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Get out of a poor environment Not many choices Love attention Respect from family and friend as they have money and spend it Love to show (expensive goods as mobiles, handbags and cars) Bored very quickly, they can’t just stay home and wait for their husband/ boyfriend. Just a way to get some extra money having sex with a stranger ‘Nothing wrong with that” Learn English Alcohol Drugs Party They just cant wait and to many stories that they wait and nothing happen so no trust at all. Most likely if I was born as a woman here in a poor family would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadafi Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 If this happened to me, i would be very angry if she didnt give me my share of the earnings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEGALITHIC Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 This: It's very simple when it comes to interacting with bargirls/prostitutes/hookers - they are only for short term fun and not for relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hehehoho Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Picture and phone number please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludditeman Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) This is a troll post. I can say with 100% certainty the OP is not Thai at all. Probably a white English speaking male hoping for some jollies in the womans section. I suggest one of the Thai speaking mods gets the OP to have a little exchange in Thai script, if they are not sure. Or WildOrchid is welcome to have a little PM exchange in Thai script with me. Edited October 20, 2011 by ludditeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 This is a troll post. I can say with 100% certainty the OP is not Thai at all. Probably a white English speaking male hoping for some jollies in the womans section. Haha yup, white dude for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 because real thai culture can not acept a lady who make this in to they'er family, The big question this poses is what is real Thai culture since surely this lady is a product of said culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poanoi Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well first off it is Garee or Galee, there is no K, meaning Gibbon btw, a way to denigrate prostitutes as it refer to the sound of monkeys calling on males. It is very common among ladyboys to refer to prostitutes as galee, i'm guessing jealousy since the woman are seemingly more successful (or perhaps not) However it is also common among regular educated woman to refer to prostitutes as Galee, altho they can also use sophenee or poying kai toa. I'm up for a bet if you feel like it, perhaps a beer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxpirant Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 ludditeman, I would have said exactly the same thing. The language is not the broken English of a Thai speaker, but the attempted broken English of an English speaker. Troll in my book, without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Indeed a troll! This is not "Thinglish" spelling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildorchid Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 I can say with 100% certainty i AM a thai lady, well i was the last time i looked in the mirror, and yes it is not a troll it's just what my husband and i see every day, and just to be sure you can ask me a question in thai script and and i can reply to you in thai script also, and i think to make this more interesting how about a bet? and any others that think i'm not thai lady, This is a troll post. I can say with 100% certainty the OP is not Thai at all. Probably a white English speaking male hoping for some jollies in the womans section. I suggest one of the Thai speaking mods gets the OP to have a little exchange in Thai script, if they are not sure. Or WildOrchid is welcome to have a little PM exchange in Thai script with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethailand Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) The OP is obviously a proper Thai woman and I would partially agree with her... with a few provisions. I can only reply from what I said on another, similar topic... It can be addicting for a young, pretty gal to work in a popular bar. They get all that attention and feel they can do anything... which very often they can. It only strikes home when they get to their mid thirties and their customers start dropping off. At that point it gets pretty tough on them and they've become too hardened to accept a normal life. Their heart has been broken a hundred times and they don't trust anyone. They will scheme, lie, cheat or even steal to maintain their standards. At that point it becomes the old saying of... "You can take the girl out of the bar but you can't take the bar out of the girl." Pretty women everywhere get the attention of men. It becomes like a drug to them and they quickly learn to use their looks to manipulate docile men. If you've ever gone to a university anywhere you will notice the pretty, cheerleader type gals are the center of attention. The beauty queens get chosen as the president of the sorieties and all the clubs. Thailand is no different from that aspect. Young men and women get bored out in the sticks. They want the excitement of the city life. The pretty girls quickly realize they are in demand and they thrive on the excitement. They work in the bars by choice and don't want to leave. And, speaking as a man, I don't know ANY man who would prefer to have sex with a woman in her 60s in preference to someone young and beautiful. That is why Viagra and Cialis are so popular. It's not because men have a physical problem. It's just a case where they just are not interested in sex with their old wife any more. It's unfortunate, but it is the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts. I know a few Thai girls who are 14 and 15 and if you didn't know better, you would guess their age at closer to early twenties. Conversely, I know a few Thai gals in their mid twenties who look like school children. That is how some teenagers get to work in bars with questionable ethics. I happen to know two women in their twenties who worked in hooker bars from the time they were 15.. and it was their mother who pimped them. So, all I am saying is you can make general statements, but there are always exceptions. I agree with alot that you say, as for the op im not sure I agree if they are legit or not but to the last question asked. I married a girl that I met in a bar and 9 years later we're still together and happy so I guess i'm proud. Not or never have been concerned about what others think about that no matter where they're from. Edited October 20, 2011 by davethailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerryk Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well first off it is Garee or Galee, there is no K, meaning Gibbon btw, a way to denigrate prostitutes as it refer to the sound of monkeys calling on males. It is very common among ladyboys to refer to prostitutes as galee, i'm guessing jealousy since the woman are seemingly more successful (or perhaps not) However it is also common among regular educated woman to refer to prostitutes as Galee, altho they can also use sophenee or poying kai toa. I'm up for a bet if you feel like it, perhaps a beer ? How do you say Korean in Thai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well first off it is Garee or Galee, there is no K, meaning Gibbon btw, a way to denigrate prostitutes as it refer to the sound of monkeys calling on males. It is very common among ladyboys to refer to prostitutes as galee, i'm guessing jealousy since the woman are seemingly more successful (or perhaps not) However it is also common among regular educated woman to refer to prostitutes as Galee, altho they can also use sophenee or poying kai toa. I'm up for a bet if you feel like it, perhaps a beer ? How do you say Korean in Thai? Kaolee last time I heard it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludditeman Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 (edited) I can say with 100% certainty i AM a thai lady, well i was the last time i looked in the mirror, and yes it is not a troll it's just what my husband and i see every day, and just to be sure you can ask me a question in thai script and and i can reply to you in thai script also, and i think to make this more interesting how about a bet? and any others that think i'm not thai lady, This is a troll post. I can say with 100% certainty the OP is not Thai at all. Probably a white English speaking male hoping for some jollies in the womans section. I suggest one of the Thai speaking mods gets the OP to have a little exchange in Thai script, if they are not sure. Or WildOrchid is welcome to have a little PM exchange in Thai script with me. Sorry but You are a white guy who has learnt bar girl Thai. You have used the impolite form of a word that no respectable Thai lady would use in front of strangers or in mixed company. (or you possibly could be a bar girl, but your written English is too good for a bar girl) Guys that hang around with bar girls always give themselves away with their choice of 'Thai' words. Edited October 20, 2011 by ludditeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ludditeman Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Well first off it is Garee or Galee, there is no K, meaning Gibbon btw, a way to denigrate prostitutes as it refer to the sound of monkeys calling on males. It is very common among ladyboys to refer to prostitutes as galee, i'm guessing jealousy since the woman are seemingly more successful (or perhaps not) However it is also common among regular educated woman to refer to prostitutes as Galee, altho they can also use sophenee or poying kai toa. I'm up for a bet if you feel like it, perhaps a beer ? How do you say Korean in Thai? Kaolee last time I heard it... Gowlee for Korean (as opposed to Gralee for naughty girls) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdnvic Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 I don't see anything but troll calling here on a topic that was dubious to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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