Signs Of Public Doubting Yingluck's Abilities As Bangkok Braces For Deluge

[sbk]

It seems reminding is needed:

PUBLIC WARNING

I have noticed more than a few posts in this thread that are insulting, baiting and inflammatory. If you cannot post in a polite manner respectful of others and the fact that they are allowed to have opinions different than your own then I would highly recommend that you do not post. Further such posts will result in more than a simple formal warning and you may find your posting rights restricted until you can be polite.

I do hope this is very clear.

Keep it civil, I realize everyone is stressed but there is no need to make it worse with baiting and aggressive posts.

[sbk]

Post deleted, suggest you re-read my above post about keeping it CIVIL

[Thaddeus]

What abilities did they think she had? She is a complete political novice, a clone, and a puppet. Seriously there is little any one politician could do in the face of this natural disaster, but the PM's handling of it has been awful. Maybe next time Thais should look for some sort of competence in the people they elect.

Exactly!

Be careful what you wish for..!!

And the real "brains" (I use the term loosely) has been silent since the crap hit the fan, as have his closest aides.

I said months ago that I felt sorry for the new PM as she didn't know what she was letting herself in for.... I underestimated somewhat.

[Maverell]

Greetings to all,

Why are there no contingency plans in place to ensure bottled water, why are there no water tankers ? The answer ? Because the leaders of Thailand are only interested in lining their own pockets.

Big C and Tesco Lotus could see the selling patterns at least one month to two months ago ago, why are there not container ships of bottled water coming here from Australia, Singapore, Malaysia etc - the reason is because no one in Thailand's hierarchy will make any money from it.

A 2 per cent drop in GDP is the the first estimate.....

[yoshiwara]

It would not matter who was in power, they were not going to stop this flood.

New Orleans natural disaster, could not stop flooding.

Brisbane Queensland natural disaster, could not stop flooding.

Thailand, natural disaster, could not stop flooding.

North Queensland Australia, has just had 14 inches of rain in 24 hours, natural disaster cant stop flooding.

To mention a few recent ones.

Do you think she is GOD, give me a break.

give it a rest and leave it to your friends reds to spout nonsense crying lets get 10,000 boats drop stones, dont worry no problem the Un and rest say they have cooked it up 100% They cant stop floods but for 2 months they have done nothing to lessen the effects or help people prepare for it. Misinformation and crazy plans and ideas. They are totally plainly incompetent and most know it except blinkered totally brainwashed people like you To say what your comments are worth would for sure get me banned. Grow up and smell coffee

It is not true that the government has no idea.

They will have been issued very clear instructions by Thaksin to come up with initiatives to deal with the situation, but, under no circumstances, declare a state of emergency which would have required handing over responsibility to the army leadership.

Of course all the ridiculous ideas have attracted ridicule. That is to be expected.

What needs to be made crystal clear is that the politicisation of even a crisis as dramatic as this one has been subordinated to the interests of Thakin Shinawatra.

Either the country is made his or it can drown.

The army may or may not have done a good job. But it was their job to do. Only one man stood in the way. And the government stooges/comedians to do his bidding.

[jombom]

It's all very sad. More than 300 dead people, which very few mention, and of course countless Thais whose lives have been devastated.

What is also extremely sad, is the ''blame game''.

In fairly typical fashion, a scapegoat is needed. If people were honest, they would know that we are all to blame.

Why? ----- because everybody tolerates the endemic corruption in the society

Between mid July and mid Oct every year, 50% of the annual rainfall lands. All (repeat ALL) of the reservoirs and dams, can only store 15% to 20%.

This was an accident waiting to happen.

[yoshiwara]

It's all very sad. More than 300 dead people, which very few mention, and of course countless Thais whose lives have been devastated.

What is also extremely sad, is the ''blame game''.

In fairly typical fashion, a scapegoat is needed. If people were honest, they would know that we are all to blame.

Why? ----- because everybody tolerates the endemic corruption in the society

Between mid July and mid Oct every year, 50% of the annual rainfall lands. All (repeat ALL) of the reservoirs and dams, can only store 15% to 20%.

This was an accident waiting to happen.

Accidents indeed happen, but in an emergency the state is required to maximise its resources in response. The government has not done so. Under direct instructions from Thaksin. This is not looking back because the option to activate resources is still there. The attempt to spread blame around is just another attempt by Thaksin's supporters to avoid responsibility. In government but still acting as if in opposition. Why? because their sole political priority is Thakin's return. For them the floods are a side show. Showing their knickers.

Edited October 25, 2011 by yoshiwara

[alstaxi]

All it proves that you are a compulsive government apologist. Only a bonehead would think the criticism is politically motivated. Just ask someone who has been flooded out of their house.

Honestly...

One doesn't need to be on any side to observe the shocking incompetence unfolding at the very top level over the last few weeks. There is the "more harm than good" "science minister" who makes a mockery of his office. There are all those YS announcements that later have to be reverted (we save bangkok - oh wait, we'll let it flood).

I mean OK there were no sufficient plans for a once-in-50-years flood. Even though weather experts must have known that there would be floods, simply going by the unusual amount of rain coming down all year, they were not heard. Or maybe they have no proper means of communicating through the byzantine system of government bureaucracy. Those fall under the highlight is always 20/20 category.

But as the floods already hit various parts of central Thailand, that's when the administration had a chance to simply do the right thing, and make good predictions, and put plans in place. Epic fail in that respect. The government came across as a bunch of headless chickens running around and making noise.

may I ask where the noises were coming from.

what was i thinking?????

[alstaxi]

Posting ground to halt, guess no one wants to make things worse by posting here.

[waza]

All it proves that you are a compulsive government apologist. Only a bonehead would think the criticism is politically motivated. Just ask someone who has been flooded out of their house.

Honestly...

One doesn't need to be on any side to observe the shocking incompetence unfolding at the very top level over the last few weeks. There is the "more harm than good" "science minister" who makes a mockery of his office. There are all those YS announcements that later have to be reverted (we save bangkok - oh wait, we'll let it flood).

I mean OK there were no sufficient plans for a once-in-50-years flood. Even though weather experts must have known that there would be floods, simply going by the unusual amount of rain coming down all year, they were not heard. Or maybe they have no proper means of communicating through the byzantine system of government bureaucracy. Those fall under the highlight is always 20/20 category.

But as the floods already hit various parts of central Thailand, that's when the administration had a chance to simply do the right thing, and make good predictions, and put plans in place. Epic fail in that respect. The government came across as a bunch of headless chickens running around and making noise.

may I ask where the noises were coming from.

what was i thinking?????

Flapping feathers

[waza]

Yep, Yingluck's Abilities are sadly lacking. Is this the best PM they could find? The best of the best? Thaskin thinks, Yingluck acts.

[toybits]

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

[Buchholz]

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All too familiar signs of state paralysis in Thai crisis

Like the Japan tsunami, flooding in Thailand will have a global impact on the supply and price of rice, cameras, computers and cars.

Yet many are wondering who is overseeing crisis management in Bangkok: fugitive former leader Thaksin Shinawatra, exiled in Dubai; or his 44-year old sister, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, who won the July election despite little experience with politics or disasters.

The global stakes are high. Thailand, the world's leading rice exporter, has already lost a quarter of this year's crop. Companies including Ford, Honda, Toyota, Nikon, and Western Digital face disruptions to their global supply chain, as waters continue to inundate thousands of businesses.

Continues:

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/eo20111031a1.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+japantimes+%28The+Japan+Times%3A+All+Stories%29

The Japan Times - Oct. 31, 2011

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[siampolee]

Pheu Thai Party list MP Yingluck Shinawatra was elected Thailand's 28th prime minister by a majority vote in the House of Representatives on Friday morning.

A total of 296 MPs voted in support of Ms Yingluck, the country's first female prime minister, while three Democrat MPs voted against her, with 197 abstentions - including Ms Yingluck, the new speaker and one of his deputies, and most members of the main opposition parties, the Democrat and Bhumjaithai parties, and the four members of the Rak Thailand Party led by Chuvit Kamolvisit.

The three Democrat lawmakers who voted against Ms Yingluck were Boonyod Sukthinthai, Watchara Phetthong and Attaporn Ponlaboot.

The four MPs who did not attend the House meeting today were Ratchadaporn Kaewsanit, Khanchit Thapsuwan, Yukol Chanawatpanya and Sathit Pitutaecha, all Democrats.

http://www.disinfo.com

Toybits # 162

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

Yingluck was / is a party list M.P. Thus no votes were needed from the enfranchised public to put her into parliament and then into high office.

Edited October 31, 2011 by siampolee

[Buchholz]

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

I think at least some of the 79% did vote for PTP...

79 per cent said the government's support was insufficient and not distributed efficiently; and 68.6 per cent said the flood relief supplies themselves did not sufficiently meet victims' needs.

Edited October 31, 2011 by Buchholz

[Thaddeus]

One doesn't need to be on any side to observe the shocking incompetence unfolding at the very top level over the last few weeks. There is the "more harm than good" "science minister" who makes a mockery of his office. There are all those YS announcements that later have to be reverted (we save bangkok - oh wait, we'll let it flood).

I mean OK there were no sufficient plans for a once-in-50-years flood. Even though weather experts must have known that there would be floods, simply going by the unusual amount of rain coming down all year, they were not heard. Or maybe they have no proper means of communicating through the byzantine system of government bureaucracy. Those fall under the highlight is always 20/20 category.

But as the floods already hit various parts of central Thailand, that's when the administration had a chance to simply do the right thing, and make good predictions, and put plans in place. Epic fail in that respect. The government came across as a bunch of headless chickens running around and making noise.

may I ask where the noises were coming from.

what was i thinking?????

Flapping feathers

More likely to be the noise of running feet from Chalerm et al.

[Buchholz]

Relief agencies fear disease in flooded Thailand

Bangkok, Thailand (CNN) -- A humanitarian crisis looms in Thailand after the worst floods in decades left parts of Bangkok and other areas of the country submerged, relief agencies warned Sunday.

More than 370 people have died, and charities working in the country have warned of the risk of water- and insect-borne diseases such as diarrhea, dengue fever and malaria in the coming days and weeks. Thai officials warned residents in the capital to be vigilant and expect disruptions with electricity and tap water.

Continues:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/30/world/asia/thailand-flood/index.html?section=cnn_latest

CNN - 10 minutes ago

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Edited October 31, 2011 by Buchholz

[yoshiwara]

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

and evidence for that suspicion?

[letitbe]

What abilities did they think she had? She is a complete political novice, a clone, and a puppet. Seriously there is little any one politician could do in the face of this natural disaster, but the PM's handling of it has been awful. Maybe next time Thais should look for some sort of competence in the people they elect.

Exactly!

Be careful what you wish for..!!

And the real "brains" (I use the term loosely) has been silent since the crap hit the fan, as have his closest aides.

I said months ago that I felt sorry for the new PM as she didn't know what she was letting herself in for.... I underestimated somewhat.

i dont feel anything but total contempt for all shinawati clan and evil they have brought upon thailand

[letitbe]

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

well those who did will soon maybe just maybe begin to understand she and her brother could not care one jot for poor but you are as in Stalin s words a useful idiot

[anon8]

why is Nation even talking about the current PM, I mean why waste a breath.

Keep your powder dry until THE man returns in December, as we been warned he will. Why pick on an innocent clueless lady who simply shares same last name, and has to be an unfortunate cheap movie 'extra', until the main hero returns to the scene

[hanuman1]

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

and evidence for that suspicion?

Probably about the same amount of evidence as you have to back up your own radical rantings.

[yoshiwara]

I wonder if that segment of the public that is said to be doubting Yingluck's abilities voted for her or not. My suspicion is that they didn't vote for her in the first place.

and evidence for that suspicion?

Probably about the same amount of evidence as you have to back up your own radical rantings.

....is that it?

....actually some forum members miss a very important point about Yingluck, which is that her failure is Thaksin's failure. He is the one making the key calls.

Thaksin has gone quiet because things are not going well and he wants as little of the muck to stick to his shirt.

When things are going bad you hear little or nothing of the 'Yingluck is my clone' message. Politically his sister is expendable.

The problem is him not her. Who wants to be in her shoes with her brother making crap cabinet appointments and crap calls to deal with the situation?

Thaksin is the liability.

[hanuman1]

and evidence for that suspicion?

Probably about the same amount of evidence as you have to back up your own radical rantings.

....is that it?

....actually some forum members miss a very important point about Yingluck, which is that her failure is Thaksin's failure. He is the one making the key calls.

Thaksin has gone quiet because things are not going well and he wants as little of the muck to stick to his shirt.

When things are going bad you hear little or nothing of the 'Yingluck is my clone' message. Politically his sister is expendable.

The problem is him not her. Who wants to be in her shoes with her brother making crap cabinet appointments and crap calls to deal with the situation?

Thaksin is the liability.

Thank you for your opinion. I disagree.

I would try to make some points to counter yours, but as a wise poster once put it: in a dick-waving competition, the biggest dick always wins.

Edited October 31, 2011 by hanuman1

[alstaxi]

and evidence for that suspicion?

Probably about the same amount of evidence as you have to back up your own radical rantings.

....is that it?

....actually some forum members miss a very important point about Yingluck, which is that her failure is Thaksin's failure. He is the one making the key calls.

Thaksin has gone quiet because things are not going well and he wants as little of the muck to stick to his shirt.

When things are going bad you hear little or nothing of the 'Yingluck is my clone' message. Politically his sister is expendable.

The problem is him not her. Who wants to be in her shoes with her brother making crap cabinet appointments and crap calls to deal with the situation?

Thaksin is the liability.

Thank you for your opinion. I disagree.

I would try to make some points to counter yours, but as a wise poster once put it: in a dick-waving competition, the biggest dick always wins.

The biggest dick in this story is in Dubai, are you wanting anyone to believe he is not the puppet master , that poo is actually calling the shots???? Sheer fantasy.