webfact Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 PAD Threatens Protest if Govt Continues Amnesty Push The founder of the People's Alliance for Democracy reiterates that his group will make a move if the government is persistent in passing a royal pardon decree to acquit former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra of his crime. In an interview given during ASTV's News Hour program, People's Alliance for Democracy founder Sondhi Limthongkul said the Cabinet's secret meeting on issues surrounding a royal pardon decree has demonstrated the shameful behavior of politicians who will do anything for personal gain. It is a proof that the Pheu Thai-led government is here to serve self-exiled former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and bring him home safely. The Cabinet allegedly held a secret meeting on Tuesday to discuss changes to the decree on a royal pardon with an aim to help Thaksin, who was convicted in the Ratchadaphisek land corruption case. Sondhi said to prove her sincerity, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra should tell her brother to return home and serve his sentence first before seeking royal clemency. He added the Cabinet's move is a violation of the rule of the law and an insult to the royal institution and the public. The PAD founder said he once said his group will make a move if there are efforts to bring Thaksin back and wipe the slate clean for him. He added all PAD leaders will meet next week to determine the group's position. -- Tan Network 2011-11-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It seems to be the only choice. I feel sorry for the PAD members...hard month to come and many will be killed by the criminal government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 This government is trying to legalise corruption or, at least, make it an unpunishable offence. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Book your future flights out of U-tapao? Here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Book your future flights out of U-tapao? Here we go again. No can do, U-tapao will be under USAF control soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Right on cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtonormal Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It seems to be the only choice. I feel sorry for the PAD members...hard month to come and many will be killed by the criminal government. Geriatric terrorists. Them army snipers have had no practice for a while. If its good for them red oiks its good for the yellow cronies. If Sondhi is serious and the yellows set up camp, take over airports, block up the city even burn buildings not one army trigger will be pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It seems to be the only choice. I feel sorry for the PAD members...hard month to come and many will be killed by the criminal government. Geriatric terrorists. Them army snipers have had no practice for a while. If its good for them red oiks its good for the yellow cronies. If Sondhi is serious and the yellows set up camp, take over airports, block up the city even burn buildings not one army trigger will be pulled. sorry burning buildings has been taken - that option not available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Good luck to them but I hope those close to me stay away this time. They are playing for keeps and it is not going to be safe opposing them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 A flash point is a comin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) It seems to be the only choice. I feel sorry for the PAD members...hard month to come and many will be killed by the criminal government. I think that once the demonstrations start, deaths and injuries are inevitable. It's Thaksin's final battle. If he can't squash the opposition with Jatuporn's Red Guard, he'll probably never be able to return / stay. Prompong will be busy with his brown envelopes soon sueing Aphisit for everything. If Thaksin can get a relation in charge of the Army, goodness knows what will happen. Edited November 18, 2011 by renaissanc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregb Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The PAD has been under appreciated for the service they did for the country. They are about to be appreciated again. I didn't necessarily agree with their methods, but having seen how much worse the reds were, I guess the ground rules are now set as to how this game will be played. If I'm the PAD I'm going to go after sea ports and railways this time. Bring the import/export market to its knees. Given the floods have already crippled industry the damage there will be minimized, but killing the supply chains will have a dramatic effect on the population. Force the government to look incompetent or fire first. Then the yellows become the oppressed demonstrators, and the civil war can begin between the red government and the yellow freedom fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renaissanc Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I don't think the violence will lead to a coup. But I do think that Jatuporn, Kwanchai, Natthawut, and a few others might find themselves targets as a solution to the trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadman Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It seems to be the only choice. I feel sorry for the PAD members...hard month to come and many will be killed by the criminal government. Geriatric terrorists. Them army snipers have had no practice for a while. If its good for them red oiks its good for the yellow cronies. If Sondhi is serious and the yellows set up camp, take over airports, block up the city even burn buildings not one army trigger will be pulled. I would not mind betting that if PAD start protesting with large numbers and the Red thugs go up against them, then the Army will get involved and triggers will be pulled. Do agree however that the targets will not be the Yellow shirts. In some ways it would be good for the convicted criminal fugitive to get his amnesty as several final solutions could be found once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coconutter Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Well this coulld be the flashpoint ,will the army let the pad cripple the country 1st or will they stage a coup before? This coulld be far worse than the country has allready experienced over the last 10 yrs ,thaksin last stand coulld be a bloodbath taking this country back years into the terrible times of the 70s students riots. Edited November 18, 2011 by coconutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTao Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I have only been in Thailand for about a year and a half, but from watching the news both in Australia and here I have only seen people wearing red setting fire to buildings both in Bangkok and up north. Geriatric terrorists. Them army snipers have had no practice for a while. If its good for them red oiks its good for the yellow cronies. If Sondhi is serious and the yellows set up camp, take over airports, block up the city even burn buildings not one army trigger will be pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Book your future flights out of U-tapao? Here we go again. Utapao is sold to Hillary already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKK22 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I hate to say this but I see no hope in Thai economy and political situation. Given the size of Thai market, it could have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 It seems to be the only choice. I feel sorry for the PAD members...hard month to come and many will be killed by the criminal government. Geriatric terrorists. Them army snipers have had no practice for a while. If its good for them red oiks its good for the yellow cronies. If Sondhi is serious and the yellows set up camp, take over airports, block up the city even burn buildings not one army trigger will be pulled. with burning buildings they would get a trademark lawsuit from the red shirts. Yellow: sit in at the airport, singing patriotic songs, anti-smoke-drink-gamble propaganda, promoting democracy... Red: shooting with AKA47, M79, burning buildings beating people to death, commies propaganda, promoting Thaksin... hmm hard to choose..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbeam1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Book your future flights out of U-tapao? Here we go again. Funny you should say that. I have a friend comming over Dec 8, flying into Swampy. Was thinking of emailing him to look at his options for another airport of entry? jb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I have only been in Thailand for about a year and a half, from what I have seen on the news both in Australia and here, the only people wearing red have set fire to buildings both in Bangkok and up north. There is a reason for that. "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground." Jutaporn from the red stage in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkkjames Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Book your future flights out of U-tapao? Here we go again. Utapao is sold to Hillary already. Has she not left yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted November 18, 2011 Author Share Posted November 18, 2011 Peoples Alliance for Democracy (PAD) will gather to oppose Royal Pardon Decree Nov 21 in front of Council of State office /via NNA /TANN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterdk Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) Lets hope they target something other than airports. That would be one more nail in the tourism coffin, if they went for the airports again. Edit : beaten to it by webfact !! The office for the Council of State ;-) Edited November 18, 2011 by peterdk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterdk Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I have only been in Thailand for about a year and a half, from what I have seen on the news both in Australia and here, the only people wearing red have set fire to buildings both in Bangkok and up north. There is a reason for that. "If you seize power from us, then we'll burn the whole country down. Burn it, burn everything, my brothers — Guarantee: Bangkok will turn into a sea of flames. Those of you who live in the country, it's OK if you cannot join us. If anything happens, just gather at your provincial or city halls. No need to wait for the order. Burn your city halls down to the ground." Jutaporn from the red stage in Bangkok. That was quite a speech he gave. Thankfully not all red supporters where so short sighted. The city and provincial halls are quite handy to have around, when you are in government yourself..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insight Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Without a doubt this protest move will have been preempted by the Thaksin's red mob. It's how they choose to deal with it which should really concern people, far more than any action the yellow's choose to take themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The PAD has been under appreciated for the service they did for the country. They are about to be appreciated again. I didn't necessarily agree with their methods, but having seen how much worse the reds were, I guess the ground rules are now set as to how this game will be played. If I'm the PAD I'm going to go after sea ports and railways this time. Bring the import/export market to its knees. Given the floods have already crippled industry the damage there will be minimized, but killing the supply chains will have a dramatic effect on the population. Force the government to look incompetent or fire first. Then the yellows become the oppressed demonstrators, and the civil war can begin between the red government and the yellow freedom fighters. No, that isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimay11 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 The PAD has been under appreciated for the service they did for the country. They are about to be appreciated again. I didn't necessarily agree with their methods, but having seen how much worse the reds were, I guess the ground rules are now set as to how this game will be played. If I'm the PAD I'm going to go after sea ports and railways this time. Bring the import/export market to its knees. Given the floods have already crippled industry the damage there will be minimized, but killing the supply chains will have a dramatic effect on the population. Force the government to look incompetent or fire first. Then the yellows become the oppressed demonstrators, and the civil war can begin between the red government and the yellow freedom fighters. No, that isn't going to happen. Ok I give up. What is going to happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 PAD to rally against amnesty decree Monday The People's Alliance for Democracy will Monday hold a rally against a draft decree reportedly aimed at providing royal pardon for former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra. PAD spokesman Parnthep Puaphanpong posted a message on his Facebook page that the yellow-shirt movement would stage a rally in front of the Council of State on Monday from 10 am to 6 pm. The Cabinet has approved a draft decree to seek royal pardon for convicts on the occasion of His Majesty the King's birthday. Thaksin's opponents that the decree's criteria would make it eligible for Thaksin to receive royal pardon for his two-year jail term. -- The Nation 2011-11-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman1 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) The PAD has been under appreciated for the service they did for the country. They are about to be appreciated again. I didn't necessarily agree with their methods, but having seen how much worse the reds were, I guess the ground rules are now set as to how this game will be played. If I'm the PAD I'm going to go after sea ports and railways this time. Bring the import/export market to its knees. Given the floods have already crippled industry the damage there will be minimized, but killing the supply chains will have a dramatic effect on the population. Force the government to look incompetent or fire first. Then the yellows become the oppressed demonstrators, and the civil war can begin between the red government and the yellow freedom fighters. No, that isn't going to happen. Ok I give up. What is going to happen? Not that. Edited November 18, 2011 by hanuman1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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