Uk Healthcare Benefits For Brits Living In Thailand

[Daffy D]

As mentioned getting health insurance if over certain age is practically impossible.

For those who have been living here for many years and have no "home" or any assets to return to in the UK just have enough standby money for your flight back to Heathrow then on landing go into the first bank you see and rob it.

You either get a shed load of cash or go to jail where all your medical needs will be taken care of.

It's a win win situation

[parmo1]

I obtained the European Health Card before i left, the old E111. You can get one online (ehic.org.uk) if you can give a fixed UK address, but you are not supposed to do this. With that card you can get treatment in many countries (mainly European) by only showing your passport although, i admit, i have not yet tried.

Most other European countries operate their health services based on a universal system with medical treatment prices set by the government, not the 2 tier system of healthcare in England allowing the rich to jump the queues and get the treatment and transplants (George Best's liver transplant) first.

All the government services now (like passports), you have to pay an inflated price for, way over the fair market price, but taxes go up and up. Consulate workers, of course, are paid "local" salary rates, these workers are cheap in South East Asia and Hong Kong ! The state is acting like a private company but is a monopoly and can tax anything they like at will, even expatriates ! Air tickets will soon be over 50% tax , to add to petrol, beer, cigarettes.

So the state is charging way over the odds and their tax charges are increasing yearly, they are taking more and more of the national income. BUT WE ARE ALL GETTING A WORSE AND WORSE SERVICE ! Where all all the taxes going ? Elite public workers, MPs expenses etc, Margaret Thatcher has claimed half a million pounds expenses from taxpayers http://www.guardian....-expenses-claim in the last 5 years, lecturing about "private enterprise" and the "evils of socialism", despite having a multi-millionaire husband and HUGE pension but of course, capitalism is for everyone but herself.

The state is NOT ON OUR SIDE

Edited January 9, 2012 by parmo1

[samran]

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+1 I am going to join you in abandoning this topic too. I am Scottish and I signed up in the British Army for the defence of all UK nationals, not just the white ones. When I walk into see a Doctor I dont care what the colour of his skin is, in fact my current Doctor was born in Pakistan

I am fast to defend the UK in every way, the country is not perfect but it has a lot of outstanding attributes, and as fast as I am to defend the UK I am faster still to condemn racism.

You have been highly critical of people complaining about all the immigrates arriving on the shores of the UK and taking preference

over the natives,you think we are all racist,up to you.Now please explain why most of the immigrates have been persueded to take up residence in England and not Scotland. This was government policy,percentage wise,re population/land area, very few were moved to Scotland during the period that those two scotsmen

Blair and Brown were at the helm, from another ex-serviceman

I imagine the opportunities are greater in England than in Scotland. That was why I emigrated to England. Notwithstanding that, I like to believe we get a better class of Paki in Scotland.

My current favourite eatery is the Sentral Chappati House, which serves the best samosas (IMH&BO) I've had since left Scotland twenty years ago.

Were it not for the immigrants, when I was young, I doubt you could find a bike repair shop or a watchmenders in Scotland, and I can't imagine a chippie or an ice cream shop run by an indigenous aboriginal Scot, though I suppose i must have been in one at some time in my travels.

SC

Got love you Poms. A thread could be about a cat stuck up in a tree but as long as its UK related, it will inevitably turn into a diatribe against immigrants and how it is somehow all Blair and Browns fault.

[theblether]

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+1 I am going to join you in abandoning this topic too. I am Scottish and I signed up in the British Army for the defence of all UK nationals, not just the white ones. When I walk into see a Doctor I dont care what the colour of his skin is, in fact my current Doctor was born in Pakistan

I am fast to defend the UK in every way, the country is not perfect but it has a lot of outstanding attributes, and as fast as I am to defend the UK I am faster still to condemn racism.

You have been highly critical of people complaining about all the immigrates arriving on the shores of the UK and taking preference

over the natives,you think we are all racist,up to you.Now please explain why most of the immigrates have been persueded to take up residence in England and not Scotland. This was government policy,percentage wise,re population/land area, very few were moved to Scotland during the period that those two scotsmen

Blair and Brown were at the helm, from another ex-serviceman

I imagine the opportunities are greater in England than in Scotland. That was why I emigrated to England. Notwithstanding that, I like to believe we get a better class of Paki in Scotland.

My current favourite eatery is the Sentral Chappati House, which serves the best samosas (IMH&BO) I've had since left Scotland twenty years ago.

Were it not for the immigrants, when I was young, I doubt you could find a bike repair shop or a watchmenders in Scotland, and I can't imagine a chippie or an ice cream shop run by an indigenous aboriginal Scot, though I suppose i must have been in one at some time in my travels.

SC

Got love you Poms. A thread could be about a cat stuck up in a tree but as long as its UK related, it will inevitably turn into a diatribe against immigrants and how it is somehow all Blair and Browns fault.

Well at the risk of starting another fight, The Labour Party has admitted that they promoted this appalling rate of immigration for perceived political advantage, then watched it backfire spectacularly.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8789777/The-Left-is-rewriting-Britains-immigration-history.html

So yes, it was Brown and Blairs fault because at the time they were the Labour party.

The immigration debate is separate from the racism debate, the vast majority of recent immigrants have been white Europeans. That article I posted is a fair reflection of how out of control immigration became.

I am not self-contradicting when I say I agree that the immigration policy is a disgrace, it wasnt the white middle class that paid the price, it was the white working class and second ( sometimes third ) generation Afro-Caribbean and Asian immigrants. its not even fair to call them immigrants as they were born and bred in the UK and they are British, as simple as that.

If things werent tough enough in regards to housing and job opportunities this unsustainable policy made it worse for the people that had least. The middle class were delighted as suddenly plumbers were ten a penny.

However, easily the most abysmal act of the New Labour years was the introduction of the Human Rights Act, in one fell swoop Tony Blair undid over 1000 years of English and UK history. The Magna Carta of 1215 was the culmination of centuries of struggle for rights in England, and it was an English achievement, probably the greatest one in English history. Our law in the UK was alive, it could move with the times, and was subject to constant scrutiny and revision through Parliament.

This idiot Blair imposed the Human Rights Act upon us and common sense flew out of the window, and that is what incenses UK nationals more than anything. The UK has never had a problem with fair immigration, and most certainly not with refugees. in my lifetime I can remember the Ugandan Asians being evicted by Idi Amin and being welcomed in the UK, along with the Vietnamese Boat people.

Now we have stories like the Somalian woman who turned up with 5 kids and declared she was a lesbian, and contested that deporting her would be a violation of her Human Rights due to potential mis-treatment in her own country. After she won the right to stay she applied to have her husband join her as she "wasnt a lesbian any more".

Stories like this are legion in the UK, and they cause explosions of anger, as it is obvious to everyone that people are ripping the p*ss out of the country. The tragedy is, that during these heated debates the rightful refugees are getting treated badly. The Iraqi translators that live with the threat of death for helping the UK military should be moved en-masse to the UK. Any right thinking Brit would agree with that, just the same way as we were delighted that the Ghurkas got the right to live in the UK. I would suggest that most of the contributors to this topic would agree with that.

So there you go, the issue is highly complex, but it boils down to one thing.......is it fair or unfair? The Human Rights Act made it far easier for the spivs, liars and chancers to stay in the country and that is most certainly unfair.

[Daffy D]

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[nong38]

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+1 I am going to join you in abandoning this topic too. I am Scottish and I signed up in the British Army for the defence of all UK nationals, not just the white ones. When I walk into see a Doctor I dont care what the colour of his skin is, in fact my current Doctor was born in Pakistan

I am fast to defend the UK in every way, the country is not perfect but it has a lot of outstanding attributes, and as fast as I am to defend the UK I am faster still to condemn racism.

You have been highly critical of people complaining about all the immigrates arriving on the shores of the UK and taking preference

over the natives,you think we are all racist,up to you.Now please explain why most of the immigrates have been persueded to take up residence in England and not Scotland. This was government policy,percentage wise,re population/land area, very few were moved to Scotland during the period that those two scotsmen

Blair and Brown were at the helm, from another ex-serviceman

I imagine the opportunities are greater in England than in Scotland. That was why I emigrated to England. Notwithstanding that, I like to believe we get a better class of Paki in Scotland.

My current favourite eatery is the Sentral Chappati House, which serves the best samosas (IMH&BO) I've had since left Scotland twenty years ago.

Were it not for the immigrants, when I was young, I doubt you could find a bike repair shop or a watchmenders in Scotland, and I can't imagine a chippie or an ice cream shop run by an indigenous aboriginal Scot, though I suppose i must have been in one at some time in my travels.

SC

Got love you Poms. A thread could be about a cat stuck up in a tree but as long as its UK related, it will inevitably turn into a diatribe against immigrants and how it is somehow all Blair and Browns fault.

Your latest PM has on several occassions told the imigrants in Oz that if you dont want to fit in you are free to leave, good on her.

[metisdead]

Some off topic posts have been removed. There are many more posts that are off topic, I thought the subject of this topic was:

Uk Healthcare Benefits For Brits Living In ThailandPensioners may qualify for certain free benefits.

Lets try and keep discussion to that.

[samran]

Got love you Poms. A thread could be about a cat stuck up in a tree but as long as its UK related, it will inevitably turn into a diatribe against immigrants and how it is somehow all Blair and Browns fault.

Your latest PM has on several occassions told the imigrants in Oz that if you dont want to fit in you are free to leave, good on her.

Like the quarter million or so British Nationals who haven't sought to take out Australian citizenship??

Funny also that we have a PM born in Wales and a Opposition leader born in London.

Anyhoo, to keep my post on topic, here is a red-herring: Brits, amongst many other EU'ers, are eligible for public treatment in Australia, with similar caveats. Sure to keep this thread running a bit longer.

http://www.medicareaustralia.gov.au/public/migrants/visitors/uk.jsp

[blackthorn2005]

I do not agree with the leeches abusing the NHS when the government does not have sufficient funds to take care of it's war injured and so many ex servicemen are living on the streets.

[transam]

I do not agree with the leeches abusing the NHS when the government does not have sufficient funds to take care of it's war injured and so many ex servicemen are living on the streets.

That is another subject where you must look at the bigger picture of where tax payers money is going, it's going bolstering EU ''members'' that live totally different lives to us and also hand outs to half the planet.

[Mobi]

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+1 I am going to join you in abandoning this topic too. I am Scottish and I signed up in the British Army for the defence of all UK nationals, not just the white ones. When I walk into see a Doctor I dont care what the colour of his skin is, in fact my current Doctor was born in Pakistan

I am fast to defend the UK in every way, the country is not perfect but it has a lot of outstanding attributes, and as fast as I am to defend the UK I am faster still to condemn racism.

You have been highly critical of people complaining about all the immigrates arriving on the shores of the UK and taking preference

over the natives,you think we are all racist,up to you.Now please explain why most of the immigrates have been persueded to take up residence in England and not Scotland. This was government policy,percentage wise,re population/land area, very few were moved to Scotland during the period that those two scotsmen

Blair and Brown were at the helm, from another ex-serviceman

I imagine the opportunities are greater in England than in Scotland. That was why I emigrated to England. Notwithstanding that, I like to believe we get a better class of Paki in Scotland.

My current favourite eatery is the Sentral Chappati House, which serves the best samosas (IMH&BO) I've had since left Scotland twenty years ago.

Were it not for the immigrants, when I was young, I doubt you could find a bike repair shop or a watchmenders in Scotland, and I can't imagine a chippie or an ice cream shop run by an indigenous aboriginal Scot, though I suppose i must have been in one at some time in my travels.

SC

Got love you Poms. A thread could be about a cat stuck up in a tree but as long as its UK related, it will inevitably turn into a diatribe against immigrants and how it is somehow all Blair and Browns fault.

Well at the risk of starting another fight, The Labour Party has admitted that they promoted this appalling rate of immigration for perceived political advantage, then watched it backfire spectacularly.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/8789777/The-Left-is-rewriting-Britains-immigration-history.html

So yes, it was Brown and Blairs fault because at the time they were the Labour party.

The immigration debate is separate from the racism debate, the vast majority of recent immigrants have been white Europeans. That article I posted is a fair reflection of how out of control immigration became.

I am not self-contradicting when I say I agree that the immigration policy is a disgrace, it wasnt the white middle class that paid the price, it was the white working class and second ( sometimes third ) generation Afro-Caribbean and Asian immigrants. its not even fair to call them immigrants as they were born and bred in the UK and they are British, as simple as that.

If things werent tough enough in regards to housing and job opportunities this unsustainable policy made it worse for the people that had least. The middle class were delighted as suddenly plumbers were ten a penny.

However, easily the most abysmal act of the New Labour years was the introduction of the Human Rights Act, in one fell swoop Tony Blair undid over 1000 years of English and UK history. The Magna Carta of 1215 was the culmination of centuries of struggle for rights in England, and it was an English achievement, probably the greatest one in English history. Our law in the UK was alive, it could move with the times, and was subject to constant scrutiny and revision through Parliament.

This idiot Blair imposed the Human Rights Act upon us and common sense flew out of the window, and that is what incenses UK nationals more than anything. The UK has never had a problem with fair immigration, and most certainly not with refugees. in my lifetime I can remember the Ugandan Asians being evicted by Idi Amin and being welcomed in the UK, along with the Vietnamese Boat people.

Now we have stories like the Somalian woman who turned up with 5 kids and declared she was a lesbian, and contested that deporting her would be a violation of her Human Rights due to potential mis-treatment in her own country. After she won the right to stay she applied to have her husband join her as she "wasnt a lesbian any more".

Stories like this are legion in the UK, and they cause explosions of anger, as it is obvious to everyone that people are ripping the p*ss out of the country. The tragedy is, that during these heated debates the rightful refugees are getting treated badly. The Iraqi translators that live with the threat of death for helping the UK military should be moved en-masse to the UK. Any right thinking Brit would agree with that, just the same way as we were delighted that the Ghurkas got the right to live in the UK. I would suggest that most of the contributors to this topic would agree with that.

So there you go, the issue is highly complex, but it boils down to one thing.......is it fair or unfair? The Human Rights Act made it far easier for the spivs, liars and chancers to stay in the country and that is most certainly unfair.

[Mobi]

Great post.

One of the best things Cameron can do for his country while in office is to remove Britain from eu human rights legislation.

That and taking us out of the EU completely...:-)

sorry, got the quotes all messed up. Still trying to get the hang of thaivisa android app

Edited January 9, 2012 by Mobi

[blackthorn2005]

I do not agree with the leeches abusing the NHS when the government does not have sufficient funds to take care of it's war injured and so many ex servicemen are living on the streets.

That is another subject where you must look at the bigger picture of where tax payers money is going, it's going bolstering EU ''members'' that live totally different lives to us and also hand outs to half the planet.

The sooner the Euro collapses the better.

[parmo1]

The sooner the Euro collapses the better.

This thread is about health cover for UK citizens in Thailand, isn't it ?

I read the Australian government medicare, it seems that Brits can go there for treatment if you say that you a UK resident. I am sure all our young Australian "cousins" who flock to Earls Court , London take advantage of UK local health facilities.

Anyway, i found nice poem, Australian Love Poem, maybe we can say it to the Brit. nurses in the Australian hospital when we all go over for treatment. There's nothing like a good bit of Australian culture :

A U S T R A L I A N L O V E P O E M by Bruce William (the digger ) Wordsworth

Of Course I Love Ya Darling You’re A Bloody Top Notch Bird And When I Say You’re Gorgeous I Mean Every Single Word

So Ya Bun Is On The Big Side I Dont Mind A Bit Of Flab It Means That When I’m Ready There’s Somethin’ There To Grab

So Your Belly Isn’t Flat No More I Tell Ya, I Don’t Care So Long As When I Cuddle Ya I Can Get My Arms Round There

No Sheila Who Is Your Age Has Nice Round Perky Breasts They Just Gave Into Gravity But I Know Ya Did Ya Best

I’m Tellin Ya The Truth Now I Never Tell Ya Lies I Think It’s Very Sexy That You’ve Got Dimples On Ya Thighs

I Swear Upon Me Nannas Grave The Moment That We Met I Thought U Was As Good As I Was Ever Gonna Get

No Matter Wot U Look Like I’ll Always Love Ya Dear Now Shut Up While The Footys On And Get Me Bloody Beer!

Edited January 9, 2012 by parmo1

[7by7]

I can never understand the thinking of someone who is either an immigrant living in Thailand or married to an immigrant living in the UK when they express anti immigrant, borderline racist opinions. It seems that they think it's OK for them or their partners to be immigrants but not others.

It's like some football supporters in the '70s who would racially abuse black players on opposing teams but cheer those on their team; an "He may be a ****** but he's our *****!" attitude. (Sadly an attitude that seems to be returning in some quarters.)

Anyway, this topic has wandered so far off topic that it's now closed.