ianf Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Can only find expensive farang places in Bangkok! Any here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elektrified Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Be careful! Lots of reports of people being scammed by people calling themselves detectives; both Thai and farang. Apparently there is no agency overseeing this activity or issuing licenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouse Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Try that BarnacleBob on this site, he might be able to point you in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgriffith Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I recall Citylife magazine ran an article about a local CM detective specialist; was sort of an expose/investigative reporting piece. Perhaps searching their web page will dig up this article, and the agency named. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zooweemama Posted January 22, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2012 Given that Thailand has no shortage of former FBI, CIA, Special Forces Op's, Ninja's, Assassins, Soldiers of Fortune, you should fine someone. Just look for any disheveled farang in any bar. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneZero Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Given that Thailand has no shortage of former FBI, CIA, Special Forces Op's, Ninja's, Assassins, Soldiers of Fortune, you should fine someone. Just look for any disheveled farang in any bar. Isn't that the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoodMaiDai Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Given that Thailand has no shortage of former FBI, CIA, Special Forces Op's, Ninja's, Assassins, Soldiers of Fortune, you should fine someone. Just look for any disheveled farang in any bar. Hey, I am an out of work Ninja and take offense to your post. Once the economy took a dive for the worst, most of us Ninjas were left without a job. Many of us left for SE Asia where we can live and train in privacy, hoping that one day the economy will pick up and we can be assassins again. Edited January 22, 2012 by PoodMaiDai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orang37 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I would recommend the people that follow me everywhere, but the minute I look at them, they disappear into shadows. best, ~o:37; 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaimiller Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ask TV member Semper, he seems to want to know or already thinks he knows everything about everyone. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ask Dave 2 to provide pictures of whatever it is you're interested in ... chances are he's got some.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I would recommend the people that follow me everywhere, but the minute I look at them, they disappear into shadows. excellent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBird Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yes, she's cheating on you. 10k baht please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneZero Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today I wish, I wish he’d go away... "Antigonish" is an 1889 poem by American educator and poet Hughes Mearns. It is also known as "The Little Man Who Wasn't There", and was a hit song under that title. Inspired by reports of a ghost of a man roaming the stairs of a haunted house in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada,[1] the poem was originally part of a play called The Psyco-edwhich Mearns had written for an English class at Harvard University about 1899.[2] In 1910, Mearns put on the play with the Plays and Players, an amateur theatrical group and, on 27 March 1922, newspaper columnist FPA printed the poem in "The Conning Tower", his column in the New York World.[2][3] cont.... When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldn’t see him there at all! Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door... (slam!) Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today Oh, how I wish he’d go away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgriffith Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yes, she's cheating on you. 10k baht please. That was pretty much the main tenor of the Citylife article I mentioned above. I've also read on this topic in BKK Post Life section. It seems a vast majority of PI jobs are directed towards cheating spouses, in LOS. Both male and female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgriffith Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today I wish, I wish he’d go away... "Antigonish" is an 1889 poem by American educator and poet Hughes Mearns. It is also known as "The Little Man Who Wasn't There", and was a hit song under that title. Inspired by reports of a ghost of a man roaming the stairs of a haunted house in Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada,[1] the poem was originally part of a play called The Psyco-edwhich Mearns had written for an English class at Harvard University about 1899.[2] In 1910, Mearns put on the play with the Plays and Players, an amateur theatrical group and, on 27 March 1922, newspaper columnist FPA printed the poem in "The Conning Tower", his column in the New York World.[2][3] cont.... When I came home last night at three The man was waiting there for me But when I looked around the hall I couldn’t see him there at all! Go away, go away, don’t you come back any more! Go away, go away, and please don’t slam the door... (slam!) Last night I saw upon the stair A little man who wasn’t there He wasn’t there again today Oh, how I wish he’d go away All quite nice, but if you are going to do a word for word cut and paste like this, the least you can do is credit your source, Wikipedia. Something along the lines of: "From Wikipedia: (etc., or the link, not the full text)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yes, she's cheating on you. 10k baht please. That was pretty much the main tenor of the Citylife article I mentioned above. I've also read on this topic in BKK Post Life section. It seems a vast majority of PI jobs are directed towards cheating spouses, in LOS. Both male and female. If you need a PI to check if your wife is cheating, the marriage is already dead......time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funcat Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yes, she's cheating on you. 10k baht please. That was pretty much the main tenor of the Citylife article I mentioned above. I've also read on this topic in BKK Post Life section. It seems a vast majority of PI jobs are directed towards cheating spouses, in LOS. Both male and female. If you need a PI to check if your wife is cheating, the marriage is already dead......time to move on. ..even if the marriage is dead,the son/daughter is worth to be found...my friend gave his life for this cause... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneZero Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) All quite nice, but if you are going to do a word for word cut and paste like this, the least you can do is credit your source, Wikipedia. Something along the lines of: "From Wikipedia: (etc., or the link, not the full text)" Gee Mcgriffith, you caught me out. You could be the private eye that the op is looking for. I was hoping that readers thought I came up with all of that independently. Sorry for not posting the link before. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigonish_(poem) Edited January 23, 2012 by OneZero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 It would have been helpful to have had an intelligent reply to my original post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 965purity Posted January 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) It would have been helpful to have had an intelligent reply to my original post. Your original question has 3 problems. I'm going to do you a favor and answer them from the perspective of someone who has worked as a private investigator offshore and as a part-time consultant and field agent for PIs in Southeast Asia. (No I won't recommend anyone and no I won't work the case for you.) 1. "expensive": You probably don't have a grasp of what expensive means. Professionals in the investigations field really get tired of the low-balling prospective client who "knows what things cost here" and tries to use that as justification. Expertise and experience cost money, and if you do your own research you'll see it's fairly consistent worldwide for PIs to change ten to twenty times minimum wage depending on the cost of doing business locally and overheads. Minor expenses are included (usually) and major expenses for mileage and travel are not. That's just the way the pricing model in the industry works. If you can't pony up 2500-5000 baht per day plus expenses for a professional that's not the PIs fault but a result of your own unrealistic expectations. If you want an investigation done for less than that be prepared to get little or nothing of value. If you're asked to pay more you're being exploited. 2. "farang places": OK, hire a Thai investigator. Make sure you see some sample reports first. The ones I've seen written in English by Thai investigators read like word salad. When writing a report little things like singular/plural, verb tense and grammar count for a lot. A lot of Thais just aren't up to it especially ex-cops. And if you do hire a Thai ex-cop keep in mind that you have even less recourse if he takes your money and produces nothing. With a farang investigator who fails miserably or rips you off you can at least blacken his reputation online but try that with a Thai and you're taking your life in your hands. And Thais aren't uniformly cheap even if they don't inflate the price for farang clients. The Thai lady investigator who's ex-DSI charges 10,000 per day for example and so do investigators attached to Thai law firms. 3. "in Bangkok": Yes a city of 12 million people that's also a huge magnet for tourism as well as being a good jumping off point to Pattaya, Hua Hin and Cha Am by road and anywhere in the country by plane or train. Lots of good opportunities in other words. Contrast that with Chiang Mai with a little over a million in the metro area and which is not a good hub. If you were a professional investigator, where would you set up shop? Chiang Mai's a nice town but there's just not enough trade up there for a farang PI to make a living full-time. At best you'll get somebody who does investigations on the side but if push comes to shove their bread-and-butter interests will take priority. It's been tried full-time but they always fail and probably always will from lack of revenue or getting run off by the locals. Sending an investigator with skills out of a highly competitive market like Bangkok who can then operate in Chiang Mai with complete anonymity makes more sense even if the client pays a small premium for transportation costs. Edited January 23, 2012 by 965purity 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 965purity Posted January 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2012 Be careful! Lots of reports of people being scammed by people calling themselves detectives; both Thai and farang. Apparently there is no agency overseeing this activity or issuing licenses. Beware any local PI whether Thai or farang who claims to have a license. If they show you a badge that says "PI", it's bogus. If they wave a piece of paper under your nose, get a copy and have it translated. I'll bet you it will be a certificate from a training school at best or a commendation of some sort or a property agent's licence. Not a PI license. Most of the professional investigators here wish it was otherwise. It's just too easy to throw together a web site in a couple of days and pretend to be a PI. There are some general guidelines you can use to figure out which of the web sites you see are problematic. Always do a whois on the domain name and if it hasn't been in continuous registration for at least 5 years you might want to think twice. You might think that's unfair but there's no way to tell an experienced offshore operator just entering the Thai market from a legitimate startup by a rookie from somebody who just fell off a barstool and now has a mood to play secret agent. If it's not a scam you can let them make their new-boy mistakes on someone else's case. Compare that registration date to the claims on the website and if they say they've been doing investigations for a dozen years but their website only went up a few years ago it's a problem. Nobody spends a decade or more working by private referral only and then one day decides they need a website. There was one guy who did that but his operation got underway before the internet mattered very much. It's no longer a credible claim. In the PI business you need visibility because it's so damned competitive. Having their domain under private registration isn't a killer but if they do list an address their or on their website then by all means research it. Off the top of my head I can think of one site that's got an address which is actually a luggage store, another that's a night club, several more are postal box address manipulated to look like street addresses. And there are a few which are just virtual offices which could be taken as a positive or a negative. Withholding an address isn't too surprising as a lot of PI shops don't want walk-ins. For a single-operator especially that just risks annoying a possibile client if he comes round while the PI is out working a case. Check the PIs site to see if he's ripping off other people's text or images. You can take a few random 6 or 8 word phrases from a PIs site and punch them into google with quotes and see if it was used elsewhere. Images are a little harder but the TinEye service is good for that. If you find that the site is using a lot of stock images ask yourself if they are more likely to have paid the fees to license those images or stolen them. There's one outfit in Pattaya that has pictures on their site that they are passing off as their staff but are actually taken from a health club in Singapore. Just screams honesty doesn't it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
965purity Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I recall Citylife magazine ran an article about a local CM detective specialist; was sort of an expose/investigative reporting piece. Perhaps searching their web page will dig up this article, and the agency named. That article is still live but the site it connected to is gone. Guess someone forgot to pay the hosting bill. The article is obnoxious because it comes off as gloating that they were providing Security Theatre of suits and ear-pieces rather than actual security. Not a good spokesman for the close protection trade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
965purity Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Yes, she's cheating on you. 10k baht please. That was pretty much the main tenor of the Citylife article I mentioned above. I've also read on this topic in BKK Post Life section. It seems a vast majority of PI jobs are directed towards cheating spouses, in LOS. Both male and female. That's just a matter of perception. There are some really good PIs here who work exclusively in IP and copyright, fraud cases, mispers and so on. You just wouldn't know they're out their unless you specifically went looking for them. It's not the sort of thing that gets much in the way of headlines in general nor much play on those other forums where mouthbreathers whinge about their hooker girlfriends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
965purity Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If you need a PI to check if your wife is cheating, the marriage is already dead......time to move on. If you need a doctor to check your symptoms, you're already dead. Give up. If you need a lawyer to handle your case, you're going to jail or you'll lose a lawsuit. Give up. If you need a mechanic to check your car, you may as well take it to the scrap yard. Give up. There's a huge gulf between meekly giving up on a marriage at the mere sign of trouble and in the wrong country getting a divorce which costs you half of everything, and getting proof from a PI then passing it on to a lawyer and getting a reasonable settlement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 If you need a PI to check if your wife is cheating, the marriage is already dead......time to move on. If you need a doctor to check your symptoms, you're already dead. Give up. If you need a lawyer to handle your case, you're going to jail or you'll lose a lawsuit. Give up. If you need a mechanic to check your car, you may as well take it to the scrap yard. Give up. There's a huge gulf between meekly giving up on a marriage at the mere sign of trouble and in the wrong country getting a divorce which costs you half of everything, and getting proof from a PI then passing it on to a lawyer and getting a reasonable settlement. Yes, and there is also the saying that one should not get involved with anything that one can't just walk away from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgriffith Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Looks like the OP got the intelligent and informed answer he was looking for, courtesy of 965purity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) American - Australian Private Detective Agency in association with the Thai-Lanna Law Firm in Chiang Mai. 15 years serving the Chiang Mai community has granted us extensive experience and knowledge of the Northern Thai community. Examples of private investigation(PI) services include: • Pre-marital checks • Marital affairs • Land and housing searches • Personal background checks • Missing persons Call for a free consultation. Additionally, all legal advice and services can be provided if needed. Contact +66 (0)84 547 5485 >+66 (0)80 859 1811 http://www.chiangmai...ew.php?id=38758 Edited January 24, 2012 by uptheos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonto21 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Ask TV member Semper, he seems to want to know or already thinks he knows everything about everyone. Ha ha….Meeeeoooow, Down tiger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sao Jiang Mai Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I recall Citylife magazine ran an article about a local CM detective specialist; was sort of an expose/investigative reporting piece. Perhaps searching their web page will dig up this article, and the agency named. That article is still live but the site it connected to is gone. Guess someone forgot to pay the hosting bill. The article is obnoxious because it comes off as gloating that they were providing Security Theatre of suits and ear-pieces rather than actual security. Not a good spokesman for the close protection trade. Hi there, what an odd thing to say! it is online here: http://www.chiangmainews.com/ecmn/viewfa.php?id=2930, as a matter of fact our web site has never been down, in all 12 or 13 years, so pleaes don't say that, it is quite damaging! I have never not paid my hosting bill! Your opinion on the article is absolutely free to give and I respect that, but to accuse my company of not paying our bills when it is clear we do is a tad harsh! Thank you, pim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sao Jiang Mai Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Oh no! I hugely apologise, I just read your notice again and see now that I jumped to the gun. You were saying that the PI company didn't pay their bill not mine? So sorry about that. I do apologise. Pim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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