I am not sure if government ministers should be referred to in this fashion,but, I may be wrong.

A game of Blind man's bluff anyone..?

I can never see what you post, I never get past the pic.

Sir Dancealot, that level of tolerance for scammers seems somewhat misplaced. Society should deplore antisocial behavior to discourage it, not just turn a blind eye (sic) to it, imho.

One should not make fun of the impaired. Even when they are imposing, or posing. Everybody does something for a reason. Nobody can judge another, it's a sgin of discrespect towards somebody. One can only judge oneself in the end.

Thank you Reasonable man.

In another... way you could reconsider their actions as their ability to have had the clarity of mind to have found a hole in the bucket of one society. And there are some large buckets around where no one will notice any insignificant leakage forever. They actually profited from something that hurt nobody. The court actually ruled that. In other words it's pretty remarkable and downright impressive they could pull a scam like this, a scam indeed where everybody walked home from with a smiling face, everyone involved felt better. I agree with you, sir Reasonable man, it is anti social behaviour. But please give me you honest opinion. Would somebody who never had money to safe in his life, somebody who is poor but had a good buddhist heart. Would they not be tempted, would they not be inticed by they actual social system they were put in as a baby in the first place?

What is good and what is bad, who sets the rules? It's different in every society as well between the layers in rich and poor in a particular society. I have found in my humble opinion the rich are the biggest criminals and we should leave the poor. Let them be. Maybe better rich society's should help them more.

I've come to find many opinions peculiar because they where inferred or should i say conditioned by the society one grew up in. I think one should look broader.

Thank you again

when i lived in huay-kwang i used to give every day to the blind so i am glad i never came across this pair

You may have come across some other pair, one of whom was faking blindness.

Sir Dancealot, that level of tolerance for scammers seems somewhat misplaced. Society should deplore antisocial behavior to discourage it, not just turn a blind eye (sic) to it, imho.

One should not make fun of the impaired. Even when they are imposing, or posing. Everybody does something for a reason. Nobody can judge another, it's a sgin of discrespect towards somebody. One can only judge oneself in the end.

Thank you Reasonable man.

In another... way you could reconsider their actions as their ability to have had the clarity of mind to have found a hole in the bucket of one society. And there are some large buckets around where no one will notice any insignificant leakage forever. They actually profited from something that hurt nobody. The court actually ruled that. In other words it's pretty remarkable and downright impressive they could pull a scam like this, a scam indeed where everybody walked home from with a smiling face, everyone involved felt better. I agree with you, sir Reasonable man, it is anti social behaviour. But please give me you honest opinion. Would somebody who never had money to safe in his life, somebody who is poor but had a good buddhist heart. Would they not be tempted, would they not be inticed by they actual social system they were put in as a baby in the first place?

What is good and what is bad, who sets the rules? It's different in every society as well between the layers in rich and poor in a particular society. I have found in my humble opinion the rich are the biggest criminals and we should leave the poor. Let them be. Maybe better rich society's should help them more.

I've come to find many opinions peculiar because they where inferred or should i say conditioned by the society one grew up in. I think one should look broader.

Thank you again

So you are all for the roma gypsies begging as fake muslims as well and the fake monks begging as well.

I believe they tried that in China via the 'red guard' killing everybody richer than a peasant.

Same thing in Cambodia via the 'khmer rouge'.

The outcome did not accomplish much. I am sure if that was done on a global scale, there would never have been an internet let alone a computer. Just a bunch of farmers and hunter gatherers and roaming gangs of thugs to steal it from them.

History has shown time and time again, where communism goes, famine soon follows.

The Secret Document That Transformed China

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/01/20/145360447/the-secret-document-that-transformed-china

One should not make fun of the impaired. Even when they are imposing, or posing. Everybody does something for a reason. Nobody can judge another, it's a sgin of discrespect towards somebody. One can only judge oneself in the end.

But it's OK to judge people who's sin is to make judgements? Typical religious claptrap.

It is almost a monthly occurence up in Chiang Mai that kids are abducted. It used to be a lot more frequent a few years ago, (In my village many parents wouldn't even let there kids out on the street - They were terrified of those minibuses with the blacked out windows, as there was so much fear of them stealing kids) and it is well known that a lot of these kids end up maimed and put out to beg! (and admittedly - some were even sold by their own parents!) By the way, I have a ten year old for sale at the moment - he is a PITA, and eats me out of house and home plus the electric bills for his computer and PS3 are busting the bank - going cheap! Any offers?

When I was a kid, my parents wouldn't let me out at night because everyone believed men in vans with blacked out windows would drive around stealing kids so that they could sacrifice them in satanic cults. It happened all the time, why just last month the next town over they'd say, heard about it from friends at work...

Go watch "Slumpdog & Millionaire".

Bad people steal children, handicap them, and force them into beggers.

It does happen in real life.

It is almost a monthly occurence up in Chiang Mai that kids are abducted. It used to be a lot more frequent a few years ago, (In my village many parents wouldn't even let there kids out on the street - They were terrified of those minibuses with the blacked out windows, as there was so much fear of them stealing kids) and it is well known that a lot of these kids end up maimed and put out to beg! (and admittedly - some were even sold by their own parents!) By the way, I have a ten year old for sale at the moment - he is a PITA, and eats me out of house and home plus the electric bills for his computer and PS3 are busting the bank - going cheap! Any offers?

When I was a kid, my parents wouldn't let me out at night because everyone believed men in vans with blacked out windows would drive around stealing kids so that they could sacrifice them in satanic cults. It happened all the time, why just last month the next town over they'd say, heard about it from friends at work...

Go watch "Slumpdog & Millionaire".

Very Interesting topic, I'm sure we have all been duped by some beggars, some of them are for real. There is a guy with one leg on these terrible wooden crutches around where i used to live, Thai people used to buy him food and things, he was homeless. I used to give him all my old clothes regularly and sometimes I would sit with him and chat over a can of leo, sometimes all these people want is some company, it must be very lonely being homeless. this particular beggar used to wave to me when i passed in the street on my bike, made me feel good to just give a little time for someone less fortunate.

They should give them a new job...Acting on TV at least .They obviously had talent at fooling people at something they are not. Unlike the 99% of the so called actors we see every day on TV in Thailand.