Yingluck Govt Still Fails In Latest Opinion Survey

[sparebox2]

Fail she might be, but she is still ahead of the 2nd best. Mark that is.

[wxyz]

A media source less hostile to the government would have used the headline;

Government Approval Increases Slightly or,

Government Approval Rating Holds Steady

After all, the Nation admits Her performance point increased by 0.31 point compared with the earlier survey.

(sic)

Negative people will see negative things. Positive people will see positive things.

This farang sees same same. Seems to me that with the all the attacks and criticism of the government, that the government is resilient and teflon coated. Based upon the media reports and the experts in this thread, we should have seen reduced ratings, not a slight increase.

Yes, the media should be in lockstep with the rulers and spouting the rulers propaganda non stop to protect your gf PM clone.

Edited February 9, 2012 by wxyz

[wxyz]

She supposedly did well in the bikini, evening dress and wet t-shirt poll however.

Edited February 9, 2012 by wxyz

[jayboy]

Fail she might be, but she is still ahead of the 2nd best. Mark that is.

I think that's the real point which has almost been obtusely ben ignored by some.I don't think anyone suggests that the current government is universally popular or that its position has not been damaged by the perception of incompetence during the floods, though most polls indicate that is a lesser issue as time goes by.The message in the polls which is camouflaged in newspaper reports is that Yingluck continues to score much much higher than Abhisit, and that if a general election was held now the PTP would further strengthen and consolidate its position.The Democrats have some strong selling points but Abhisit (I'm sorry in a way) is an albatross around their necks.Knowing the Thai reluctance to take tough decisions his termination may still be some way off - years even.

[rubl]

Fail she might be, but she is still ahead of the 2nd best. Mark that is.

I think that's the real point which has almost been obtusely ben ignored by some.I don't think anyone suggests that the current government is universally popular or that its position has not been damaged by the perception of incompetence during the floods, though most polls indicate that is a lesser issue as time goes by.The message in the polls which is camouflaged in newspaper reports is that Yingluck continues to score much much higher than Abhisit, and that if a general election was held now the PTP would further strengthen and consolidate its position.The Democrats have some strong selling points but Abhisit (I'm sorry in a way) is an albatross around their necks.Knowing the Thai reluctance to take tough decisions his termination may still be some way off - years even.

The albatros around k. Abhisit's neck is of UDD making. Their propaganda machine upcountry is still showing the "kill me some red-shirts' clip.

Anyway Ms. Yingluck looks better than k. Abhisit universally agreed (although Jingthing may disagree). For the rest ignore the poll independent of what is says. Thai polls manage to give you opposing views within a weeks time.

As for PTP strengthening if a general election was held now, what brand is your Crystal Ball ?

Edited February 9, 2012 by rubl

[Chris Lawrence]

It was a office poll done in the Nations home.

Slow day, so they had to fill the page.

Whats next? A poll on Mr T!

Keep up the great reporting...........

[Chris Lawrence]

On a serious note, it also depends where the poll was taken.

The approval rating may differ greatly between different areas.

The % of male and female may also produce different result.

Even with the bias the Nation displays, the figures are still good for the Govt.

[jayboy]

The albatros around k. Abhisit's neck is of UDD making. Their propaganda machine upcountry is still showing the "kill me some red-shirts' clip.

Anyway Ms. Yingluck looks better than k. Abhisit universally agreed (although Jingthing may disagree). For the rest ignore the poll independent of what is says. Thai polls manage to give you opposing views within a weeks time.

As for PTP strengthening if a general election was held now, what brand is your Crystal Ball ?

That's quite funny and illuminating for a particular kind of mindset. Rubi thinks the albatross around Abhisit's neck (a metaphor for being kicked up the backside electorally) is nothing to do with his incompetence, unpopularity and wooden personality but really the fault of the redshirts for calling him to account for the murder of civilians.As they say one couldn't make it up.

If you don't believe in Thai opinion polls at I agree the consistent lead of the PTP over the Democrats can be questioned.We'll just have to see what happens at the next general election.The polls also correctly indicated the Democrat debacle last time around but perhaps that was just a coincidence! Talk about the ostrich mentality!

[ginjag]

hey jayboy, your mentality, just over 4% out of 10 is brilliant is it, 7 months after a landslide election HaHa,  she or the government should be on a high now-with them being so popular.   would you think Yingluck should be nearer 8%= good looks and performance Ha Ha,,,,something wrong somewhere with the support you say she has.

[wxyz]

The albatros around k. Abhisit's neck is of UDD making. Their propaganda machine upcountry is still showing the "kill me some red-shirts' clip.

Anyway Ms. Yingluck looks better than k. Abhisit universally agreed (although Jingthing may disagree). For the rest ignore the poll independent of what is says. Thai polls manage to give you opposing views within a weeks time.

As for PTP strengthening if a general election was held now, what brand is your Crystal Ball ?

That's quite funny and illuminating for a particular kind of mindset. Rubi thinks the albatross around Abhisit's neck (a metaphor for being kicked up the backside electorally) is nothing to do with his incompetence, unpopularity and wooden personality but really the fault of the redshirts for calling him to account for the murder of civilians.As they say one couldn't make it up.

If you don't believe in Thai opinion polls at I agree the consistent lead of the PTP over the Democrats can be questioned.We'll just have to see what happens at the next general election.The polls also correctly indicated the Democrat debacle last time around but perhaps that was just a coincidence! Talk about the ostrich mentality!

There is a cure for delusions.

Edited February 9, 2012 by wxyz

[jayboy]

hey jayboy, your mentality, just over 4% out of 10 is brilliant is it, 7 months after a landslide election HaHa, she or the government should be on a high now-with them being so popular. would you think Yingluck should be nearer 8%= good looks and performance Ha Ha,,,,something wrong somewhere with the support you say she has.

Difficulty to disinter what is meant from this garbled and confused post but stripping away the schoolboy errors and general illiteracy I believe he is saying that Yingluck doesn't score well in the quoted poll.Actually in some areas she does but I agree in other areas her ranking is indifferent.For the more alert forum members I stress again my point was not to demonstrate the PM's strengths (which are clearly debatable) but to point out how she is demolishing the opposition, particularly Abhisit.One swallow doesn't make a summer and I agree Thai polling methodology is suspect, but the same picture does emerge in successive polls.

[RegularReader]

If they take a poll after tomorrow's "Thank you flood" Garden Party, I think you might find her rating in the affected areas will not be anywhere near 4%. It has nothing to do with what the Dems and/or Abhisit might poll. The general Thai public in these flood affected parts (which are generally PTP electorates) are fast becoming dissolution ed with PTP. Add the fact that up country people are not likely to get their Bt.300 per day, nor will little Luck get his iPad and things might be very different quite quickly.

Trouble is, the present opposition (mainly the Dems) are just as out of touch with what's going on as Yingluck/Thaksin and that lot.

[RegularReader]

hey jayboy, your mentality, just over 4% out of 10 is brilliant is it, 7 months after a landslide election HaHa, she or the government should be on a high now-with them being so popular. would you think Yingluck should be nearer 8%= good looks and performance Ha Ha,,,,something wrong somewhere with the support you say she has.

Difficulty to disinter what is meant from this garbled and confused post but stripping away the schoolboy errors and general illiteracy I believe he is saying that Yingluck doesn't score well in the quoted poll.Actually in some areas she does but I agree in other areas her ranking is indifferent.For the more alert forum members I stress again my point was not to demonstrate the PM's strengths (which are clearly debatable) but to point out how she is demolishing the opposition, particularly Abhisit.One swallow doesn't make a summer and I agree Thai polling methodology is suspect, but the same picture does emerge in successive polls.

Don't think it's Yingluck who's doing this.

The lack of an effective opposition and employment of some of the best spin merchants around helps a lot.

Don't say too much Jayboy. It would normally not take a lot to turn this around. But with the way things are played here, it's not that easy or clear cut. Also, there's no need to make excuses for her.

[geriatrickid]

So I guess you think 4.94 / 10 is all positive stuff?

Positive in the sense that the number did not deteriorate. What is so difficult about just dealing with the incremental change? If you look for negatives, you will always find them.

[geriatrickid]

On a serious note, it also depends where the poll was taken.

The approval rating may differ greatly between different areas.

The % of male and female may also produce different result.

Even with the bias the Nation displays, the figures are still good for the Govt.

And not encouraging for Mr. Abhisit. Considering all of the recent events and blunders, it is astounding that the democrats could not parlay those events into a surge. The ineptness of the opposition is highlighted. If Mr. Abhisit wishes to make gains he's going to have to change his strategy. Perhaps, a focus on solutions and alternatives would be a step in the right direction.

[wxyz]

hey jayboy, your mentality, just over 4% out of 10 is brilliant is it, 7 months after a landslide election HaHa, she or the government should be on a high now-with them being so popular. would you think Yingluck should be nearer 8%= good looks and performance Ha Ha,,,,something wrong somewhere with the support you say she has.

Difficulty to disinter what is meant from this garbled and confused post but stripping away the schoolboy errors and general illiteracy I believe he is saying that Yingluck doesn't score well in the quoted poll.Actually in some areas she does but I agree in other areas her ranking is indifferent.For the more alert forum members I stress again my point was not to demonstrate the PM's strengths (which are clearly debatable) but to point out how she is demolishing the opposition, particularly Abhisit.One swallow doesn't make a summer and I agree Thai polling methodology is suspect, but the same picture does emerge in successive polls.

That is not cricket to speak ill of others english writing ability on this website.

Edited February 9, 2012 by wxyz

[rubl]

The albatros around k. Abhisit's neck is of UDD making. Their propaganda machine upcountry is still showing the "kill me some red-shirts' clip.

Anyway Ms. Yingluck looks better than k. Abhisit universally agreed (although Jingthing may disagree). For the rest ignore the poll independent of what is says. Thai polls manage to give you opposing views within a weeks time.

As for PTP strengthening if a general election was held now, what brand is your Crystal Ball ?

That's quite funny and illuminating for a particular kind of mindset. Rubi thinks the albatross around Abhisit's neck (a metaphor for being kicked up the backside electorally) is nothing to do with his incompetence, unpopularity and wooden personality but really the fault of the redshirts for calling him to account for the murder of civilians.As they say one couldn't make it up.

If you don't believe in Thai opinion polls at I agree the consistent lead of the PTP over the Democrats can be questioned.We'll just have to see what happens at the next general election.The polls also correctly indicated the Democrat debacle last time around but perhaps that was just a coincidence! Talk about the ostrich mentality!

Nice mindset, jayboy. I guess I should be gratefull you didn't tell me my post was garbled and confused

[waza]

So I guess you think 4.94 / 10 is all positive stuff?

Positive in the sense that the number did not deteriorate. What is so difficult about just dealing with the incremental change? If you look for negatives, you will always find them.

You are clutching at straws GK et al, the topic is yingluck-govt-still-fails-in-latest-opinion-survey, that means after the governments election victory and during the flooding fiasco their aproval rating has taken a dive and the latest poll showed very little improvement in that dive. While Yingluck continues to hide from her job and the public and only attends stage managed events and photo ops and her government makes increasingly bizarre claims and stalls on the promised election sweetners this government will loose more and more credability. Not to mention its association with corrupt criminals, terrorists and such.

Edited February 10, 2012 by waza

[waza]

hey jayboy, your mentality, just over 4% out of 10 is brilliant is it, 7 months after a landslide election HaHa, she or the government should be on a high now-with them being so popular. would you think Yingluck should be nearer 8%= good looks and performance Ha Ha,,,,something wrong somewhere with the support you say she has.

Difficulty to disinter what is meant from this garbled and confused post but stripping away the schoolboy errors and general illiteracy I believe he is saying that Yingluck doesn't score well in the quoted poll.Actually in some areas she does but I agree in other areas her ranking is indifferent.For the more alert forum members I stress again my point was not to demonstrate the PM's strengths (which are clearly debatable) but to point out how she is demolishing the opposition, particularly Abhisit.One swallow doesn't make a summer and I agree Thai polling methodology is suspect, but the same picture does emerge in successive polls.

[z12]

You should not expect so much from a Fashionista.

Edited February 11, 2012 by z12

[Macmundi]

Abhisit's government failed. Thailand failed. Yingluck's government fails, Thailand fails. Whats the difference? Nothing. Thailand is hopeless. Unless someone new, promising, and does it for the passion of our King and the well being of Thailand, will our country wake up and reunite to compete with the rest of the world. Politics is a thing of the past. We have to start to face reality. Solve the flood phenomena together, solve corruption together, solve drug trafficking together, solve human trafficking together. Rather than UTILIZING these issues to bash each other!!

[hellodolly]

Abhisit's government failed. Thailand failed. Yingluck's government fails, Thailand fails. Whats the difference? Nothing. Thailand is hopeless. Unless someone new, promising, and does it for the passion of our King and the well being of Thailand, will our country wake up and reunite to compete with the rest of the world. Politics is a thing of the past. We have to start to face reality. Solve the flood phenomena together, solve corruption together, solve drug trafficking together, solve human trafficking together. Rather than UTILIZING these issues to bash each other!!

Well said. The problem is that using the parliamentary system you can not follow up on your ideas you have to continually make accommodation's to other parties or you will be gone. Look at Abhist unable to make any real progress due to having to make concessions and put down a armed coup attempt.

No one will be able to make any real progress under these type of conditions. Even now Thailand has a party with the majority of seats but it was elected by the minority and must still watch it's Ps and Qs also corruption is a big block to progress.

It would seem that the first thing taken into consideration when a big project is announced is how munch can be drained into private pockets. Once they get that figured out they consider starting.

[Orac]

Abhisit's government failed. Thailand failed. Yingluck's government fails, Thailand fails. Whats the difference? Nothing. Thailand is hopeless. Unless someone new, promising, and does it for the passion of our King and the well being of Thailand, will our country wake up and reunite to compete with the rest of the world. Politics is a thing of the past. We have to start to face reality. Solve the flood phenomena together, solve corruption together, solve drug trafficking together, solve human trafficking together. Rather than UTILIZING these issues to bash each other!!

Well said. The problem is that using the parliamentary system you can not follow up on your ideas you have to continually make accommodation's to other parties or you will be gone. Look at Abhist unable to make any real progress due to having to make concessions and put down a armed coup attempt.

No one will be able to make any real progress under these type of conditions. Even now Thailand has a party with the majority of seats but it was elected by the minority and must still watch it's Ps and Qs also corruption is a big block to progress.

It would seem that the first thing taken into consideration when a big project is announced is how munch can be drained into private pockets. Once they get that figured out they consider starting.

This is a very real problem in Thailand and is one of the reasons why I think PT is the best option on the table despite their questionable performance since the only really democratic option to them is an unholy alliance between the Dems and BJT which basically meant that Abhisit had to hand over control of key parts of government such as the Transport and Interior Ministries to his senior partners as well as having to buy off the smaller parties with the likes of the Agriculture and Tourism Ministries. At least the PT party has a stronger electoral mandate and the slight majority of seats in parliament to be able to push through its policies and also keep coalition partners in line since they are not vital to the governments survival.

[tlansford]

I looked for other reports of this poll and did not find any except for The Nation. BU did another poll the same day with an almost identical number of people, and that poll was done in Bangkok.

http://www.mcot.net/cfcustom/cache_page/327878.html

A different poll was released today that was explicitly national http://thaifinancialpost.com/2012/02/12/dusit-poll-govt-most-efficient-in-drug-eradication-worst-in-flood-solution/

The BKK Pundit talks about a slightly older poll (Jan 18th), but it is interesting to see the demographic break-down. http://asiancorrespondent.com/74660/abac-poll-yingluck-supports-drops-but-maintains-20-point-lead-over-abhisit-50-no-confidence-in-either/