Doubtful,

Why should mr T be above other Thais? He should show he is one with them and serve his time.

That would actually be a smart political move, but obviously his megalomania won't allow him to do that.

I think before you judge one person as trying to be above other Thai.........

You would do well to examine the plethora of ways available to avoid a prison sentence in Thailand

One of the best is to be part of or connected to the Shinawatra clan.

Shows how far your vision and focus ranges, no surprise there then.......

Doubtful,

Why should mr T be above other Thais? He should show he is one with them and serve his time.

That would actually be a smart political move, but obviously his megalomania won't allow him to do that.

I think before you judge one person as trying to be above other Thai.........

You would do well to examine the plethora of ways available to avoid a prison sentence in Thailand

One of the best is to be part of or connected to the Shinawatra clan.

Shows how far your vision and focus ranges, no surprise there then.......

Of course you are right as always. I think in terms of those items that appear in the press - massive corruption, tax avoidance, violent insurrection, the murder of an off-duty police officer, etc, etc, etc. So far we have seen ONE prison sentence, yet to be served, but which we should forget aout in the name of reconciliation. But just one Shinanwatra in a prison would be a bloody good start, and a sign of better times to come.

No, he needs to show he is an HONORABLE man and serve his time. He had no problem sending many to their deaths for their alleged crimes with NO trial. He belongs in jail, in fact the ICC (International Criminal Court) should put him on trial for crimes against humanity.

No? Read your response above, it actually verifies my assessment as to the only way Thaksin will return..... ..

Then he is not an HONORABLE man and has NO FACE.

really?......perhaps the Nation will ask you to write an article and expand on this astounding new emerging revelation.........

New revelation.....the mother of all jokes.

Out of all the posters on Thai-Visa seems to be say 6 hardcore Thaksin die hards, what percentage is that ??? and why would such a low % ?? is it because over 90 % have no Idea ??? or is it that the extreme minority will not face the truth. I will say that there could well be some hidden love for Thailand in him, but the way he conducted himself as P.M. and all the Sh#t stirring he has done while away, I would doubt his Love for here.

"Fugitive Former PM Thaksin Voices Concern About Conflicts In Thailand"

He is probably planning another burn down Bangkok riot.

Edited February 11, 201214 yr by z12

Fugitive criminal ex-PM Thaksin was in KL last week, visiting the Malaysian PM

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/thaksin-in-kl-recently-gets-better-treatment-than-in-2009

Probably just for some gossip and exchange of tips on how to make money:

http://dapmalaysia.org/english/2012/feb12/bul/bul4855.htm

Sure, a constitution can be a bit of a bother

"He insisted he will not take revenge against others."

These types always say the opposite of what they will do.

AS IF he NEVER took revenge before he decided to opt for SELF EXILE.

My thoughts also. If you've followed the Saga or Thaksin for the past 10 years, you'll know that whenever he emphasizes something, it's actually the opposite of what he thinks/does. Put simply; the man lies like a rug.

I made this avatar back in 2005, and he sure hasn't changed since.

*edit, aw shucks, it's an animated gif and they don't seem to work on here anymore.

Just view my profile to see it animated, work over there for some reason.

Edited February 12, 201214 yr by metisdead
30) Do not modify someone else's post in your quoted reply, either with font or color changes, added emoticons, or altered wording.

I hope this bastard would visit some country with extradition treaties with Thailand

He has - several times. You can do a quick search to confirm.

The article just lets Thaksin talk, to communicate his message, to let him do his posturing. Like 473geo says, there is nothing new here.

He spends huge sums of money to ensure that he stays at the centre of thai politics, without his money he would fade, its got nothing to do with thaksin haters.

The article just lets Thaksin talk, to communicate his message, to let him do his posturing. Like 473geo says, there is nothing new here.

He spends huge sums of money to ensure that he stays at the centre of thai politics, without his money he would fade, its got nothing to do with thaksin haters.

I thought Thaksin said he was no longer involved with politics and that he just wanted to play golf? I don't know, you just can't trust anyone these days!

The article just lets Thaksin talk, to communicate his message, to let him do his posturing. Like 473geo says, there is nothing new here.

He spends huge sums of money to ensure that he stays at the centre of thai politics, without his money he would fade, its got nothing to do with thaksin haters.

I thought Thaksin said he was no longer involved with politics and that he just wanted to play golf? I don't know, you just can't trust anyone these days!

officially, he is the "globe-trotting former PM"

The article just lets Thaksin talk, to communicate his message, to let him do his posturing. Like 473geo says, there is nothing new here.

He spends huge sums of money to ensure that he stays at the centre of thai politics, without his money he would fade, its got nothing to do with thaksin haters.

I thought Thaksin said he was no longer involved with politics and that he just wanted to play golf? I don't know, you just can't trust anyone these days!

officially, he is the "globe-trotting former PM"

Officially hes a convicted criminal on the run from justice

Out of all the posters on Thai-Visa seems to be say 6 hardcore Thaksin die hards, what percentage is that ??? and why would such a low % ?? is it because over 90 % have no Idea ??? or is it that the extreme minority will not face the truth. I will say that there could well be some hidden love for Thailand in him, but the way he conducted himself as P.M. and all the Sh#t stirring he has done while away, I would doubt his Love for here.

Six? Suggest you check your assumed numbers.

I 'assume' that there are many more who never, for their own reasons,make written contributions.

Plus, I 'assume' there are many who ocassionaly or perhaps even just one time, make logical and relevant contibutions.

Conversations with Thaksin: a sycophantic approach to biography

Conversations with Thaksin is the third in the Giants of Asia series, a set of very strange but nonetheless fascinating books by Tom Plate, a former Los Angeles Times executive who now insists on calling himself "Professor Tom".

"Professor Tom", who has taught courses at universities in America and lectured at the UAE University in Al Ain, bends over backwards to share their sense of being misunderstood by the international community and the western world in particular.

Beyond that, the tone is folksy, often to the point of grating, and we learn far more about Plate's own life than is desirable: his problems with his waistline, what he did when he realised he was going to be fired from the LA Times, the fact that his father had a temper and so did his best friend at college, his wife's opinion of his wish to be liked; and so on and so on.

Continues:

http://www.thenation...biography#page3

The National (United Arab Emirates)

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Edited February 21, 201214 yr by Buchholz

A quick skim, shows this thread is a God-send for Thaksin Haters indoctrinated by his political enemies.

The Posts predictable tee off with this oppositional agenda.

I would be remiss however, if I at least didn't express my pet peeve, before vacating this thread.

Thaksin is not my issue or interest.

My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Used by political enemies, is an attempt to denigrate, besmirch, slander, villify and impugn criminal contemptuousness on a political enemy.

It is their fear of a political opponent which prompts this agenda

IMHO....and I'm outta this thread.

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by CalgaryII

Step 1) I'm not a fan of Thaksin but...

Step 2) Drop BS.

Step 3) Run away.

Arrest warrant for Thaksin still in effect: DSI

The Department of Special Investigation on Thursday said the arrest warrant for fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has remained in effect.

December 22, 2011

A quick skim, shows this thread is a God-send for Thaksin Haters indoctrinated by his political enemies.

The Posts predictable tee off with this oppositional agenda.

I would be remiss however, if I at least didn't express my pet peeve, before vacating this thread.

Thaksin is not my issue or interest.

My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Used by political enemies, is an attempt to denigrate, besmirch, slander, villify and impugn criminal contemptuousness on a political enemy.

It is their fear of a political opponent which prompts this agenda

IMHO....and I'm outta this thread.

One thing you have never grasped, or refuse to continance,

is that Thakisns own words and actions have been more than

sufficiant reasons to dislike and distrust Thaksin 100%.

The opinions of his political opposites is only reinforcement

to easily understood reasoning. For those not so biased as to refuse reason.

A person declared guilty of an offense is a convict, and a person who has run away is a fugitive. Not complicated.

Play whatever tedious semantic games you wish, these are meanings of the words. So, who's trying to run an agenda here, if it's not you?

Oh dear, have we taken our bat and ball and run off home? How disappointing. Just when we expected answers to all the questions you have staunchly failed to address in your diarrheal polemic.

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by Reasonableman

He loves himself more than Thailand or any of the Thai people. Laws do not apply to him. He uses the get out of jail free card, the 'do you know who I am' . Works every time, in all corrupt countries.

A quick skim, shows this thread is a God-send for Thaksin Haters indoctrinated by his political enemies.

The Posts predictable tee off with this oppositional agenda.

I would be remiss however, if I at least didn't express my pet peeve, before vacating this thread.

Thaksin is not my issue or interest.

My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Used by political enemies, is an attempt to denigrate, besmirch, slander, villify and impugn criminal contemptuousness on a political enemy.

It is their fear of a political opponent which prompts this agenda

IMHO....and I'm outta this thread.

One thing you have never grasped, or refuse to continance,

is that Thakisns own words and actions have been more than

sufficiant reasons to dislike and distrust Thaksin 100%.

The opinions of his political opposites is only reinforcement

to easily understood reasoning. For those not so biased as to refuse reason.

As I understand it a 'fugitive' is a man (or woman) on the run from justice, which means a decision passed by a court of law, which is a higher authority than a mere politician. Now that 'fugitive' may be innocent but he (or she) is still a fugitive.

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by bigbamboo

Besides which, the idea that he is in exile to avoid political prosecution, eh, I mean, persecution... is untenable because HIS F'ING SISTER AND PARTY ARE THE RULING GOVERNMENT NOW.

Small detail, it may pass unnoticed by some.

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My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Thaksin is a fugitive because he is a convicted criminal on the run from justice. Its not a political issue for this failed politician its a legal one.

You see CalgaryII this is why you lack credibility,

I love that Calgaryll lives in deny.

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My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Thaksin is a fugitive because he is a convicted criminal on the run from justice. Its not a political issue for this failed politician its a legal one.

You see CalgaryII this is why you lack credibility,

Waza, it sounds like you hold the viewpoint that Thaksin's conviction was not politically motivated. If that is true, then you would be right in calling him a fugitive.

If, on the other hand, his conviction (rightly or wrongly) was politically motivated, then he is a political exile.

It just depends on your point of view.

If this charge was political, let's throw it away - for now - and ask Thaksin, "why don't you come back home?"

He will still not as there are other charges waiting. No doubt the apologists will claim they are all political. That is the problem with deeply religious people. They lack critical thinking around their faith.

I am glad Thaksin is a fugitive, and may his sister soon be one as well.

If this charge was political, let's throw it away - for now - and ask Thaksin, "why don't you come back home?"

He will still not as there are other charges waiting. No doubt the apologists will claim they are all political. That is the problem with deeply religious people. They lack critical thinking around their faith.

My dear TAWP, personally I'm not happy with your post. There is a difference between apologists and deeply religious people. In the context of the OP please stick to (political) apologists.

Thank you

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My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Thaksin is a fugitive because he is a convicted criminal on the run from justice. Its not a political issue for this failed politician its a legal one.

You see CalgaryII this is why you lack credibility,

Waza, it sounds like you hold the viewpoint that Thaksin's conviction was not politically motivated. If that is true, then you would be right in calling him a fugitive.

If, on the other hand, his conviction (rightly or wrongly) was politically motivated, then he is a political exile.

It just depends on your point of view.

If it was a political conviction why did he attempt to bribe the judiciary with a chocolate box full of money? Maybe it was a finacially motivated conviction, lol. Also if it was a political conviction why is it still standing with his sister and all his henchmen in government?. They could change the constitution to make his crimes legal. Maybe they are afriad of the military? If that is so maybe he should build his own private army, set up his own war room and start a civil war, but.

The former premier said the political conflict has been continuing in Thailand, the 2006 coup was a tragedy to democracy, and some parts of the constitution are unfair. However, the fugitive premier believes forgiveness is the key to reconciliation in the country.

What am I saying, Thaksin loves himself Thailand too much and money the Thai people to do that, it wouldnt be democratic. We can take this convicted criminal and fugitive from justice at his word when, "He insisted he will not take revenge against others".

Edited February 21, 201214 yr by waza

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My pet peeve: The agenized misleading use of the descriptor 'fugitive'

This is agenda, pure and simple. I can already hear the Thaksin haters indignantly proclaiming that he is in fact a 'fugitive'.

No he's not!

Politically he is an exile, and this is political.

The term fugitive is laden with innuendo which the Opposition tries to project onto Thaksin. Everybody knows it is a term used for murderers, rapists, terrorists, etc., on the lam.

Thaksin is a fugitive because he is a convicted criminal on the run from justice. Its not a political issue for this failed politician its a legal one.

You see CalgaryII this is why you lack credibility,

Waza, it sounds like you hold the viewpoint that Thaksin's conviction was not politically motivated. If that is true, then you would be right in calling him a fugitive.

If, on the other hand, his conviction (rightly or wrongly) was politically motivated, then he is a political exile.

It just depends on your point of view.

If it was a political conviction why did he attempt to bribe the judiciary with a chocolate box full of money? Maybe it was a finacially motivated conviction, lol. Also if it was a political conviction why is it still standing with his sister and all his henchmen in government?. They could change the constitution to make his crimes legal. Maybe they are afriad of the military? If that is so maybe he should build his own private army, set up his own war room and start a civil war, but.

The former premier said the political conflict has been continuing in Thailand, the 2006 coup was a tragedy to democracy, and some parts of the constitution are unfair. However, the fugitive premier believes forgiveness is the key to reconciliation in the country.

What am I saying, Thaksin loves himself Thailand too much and money the Thai people to do that, it wouldnt be democratic. We can take this convicted criminal and fugitive from justice at his word when, "He insisted he will not take revenge against others".

It isn't so much the "will not take revenge" bit for me, as I believe the Army will trump the lowlife there. It is more the forgiveness which he is prepared to dish out for all the wrong that everyone has done to him. Nowhere does the fugitive convicted criminal go anywhere close to asking forgiveness for all the wrong he has done to Thailand...he does not even accept that he has done wrong.