kurnell Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 It would have to be a street race. Might have to flatten out a few of the roads over the klongs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianf Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Well I think it could work. F1 is run by someone with very dubious criminal connections and so is Thailand. Perfect match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) Is there a track that might be even remotely suitable for F1's in Thailand? I can't really see this getting off the ground, but even if it did, I don't think there would be a 300% increase in tourism ... even for a weekend. No. Bira circuit got stopped from running F3 races as it wasn't upto scratch. Just saloon stuff now. There is some other new track somewhere , but I don't think it has the or any facilities. There has been a rumour for about a year that the Red Bull family are going to build a track somewhere not too far from Bang Na, not sure where, could be anywhere between Bang Na and Chonburi City. All those saying Thailand can't do it, India look like they will. People saying about corruption then what about Singapore and they could do with doing some research on some people around F1. And of course if the rumour is true about the Red Bull family building the track then they obviously know a bit about F1, sports events and business. Edited March 7, 2012 by arthurwait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) with F1 races already held in Malaysia / Singapore - now Thailand, How? First failure; Educate Thai drivers. It should be banned until the traffic mentality is corrected and the level of traffic safety is ultimately standardized. Look at sponsors and most the new team owners in F1 and other sports, even the owners of UK fotball teams. It's Asian money. Edited March 7, 2012 by arthurwait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Well I think it could work. F1 is run by someone with very dubious criminal connections and so is Thailand. Perfect match! The Thai government meets Formula One Management 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softgeorge Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I think the dreamers in the Thai government forgot to factor one little thing into thier dream. The formular one group is owned by CVC Capital Partners and J.P Morgan two of the largest financial investment companies in the world. Companies that are strictly regulated and every single last baht is accounted for. If the Thai ministers were dreaming of the nice new red ferrari to transport thier new ipads and iphones around in then they have another thing coming. There will be no cream to skim off the top and they won't get within cooeee of the funds. If they want a formular 1 then they have a lot of housework to do to totally eliminate all the corruption in thier ranks 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I would not be surprised Singapores tourism figures have gone up in the last few years, but due to multiple reasons, F1, Marina Bay Sands, Singapore Flyer and gambling at Casino's. Would be great to see a race here, I wish them luck in landing a race weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 My pennyworth, The admission fees alone will exclude 99% of Thai fans. Jumping from 50 baht for a car full at the Bira to tens of thousands for an F1 day out, impossible for the general public. To be honest though how many local people actually know anything about motor sport and would they be interested? Doubtful methinks. As someone else rightly pointed out there would be a lot of money made by the chosen few and their families, and yes 10B baht ... how many schools and hospitals would that build or improve. Paul1. Look at the new grand prixs, they look empty, it's not to do with how many people attend. The Red bull F1 event in Bangkok was packed out though wasn't it ? Tens of thousands for an F1 ticket ? Malaysian ticket prices.3 day hillstand pass £17.73 . Obviously living costs are cheaper in Thailand so the ticket prices could be as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 2014 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabs Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 April 1st has come early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 I would not be surprised Singapores tourism figures have gone up in the last few years, but due to multiple reasons, F1, Marina Bay Sands, Singapore Flyer and gambling at Casino's. Would be great to see a race here, I wish them luck in landing a race weekend That will be the reason for the surge in tourism then!! Anywhere close bye and different to Macau will be a welcome change for the Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbine1125 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Typical negative comments from the usual armchair farangs rolling in I see! Get a life the lot of you or better still go back to the wonderful life you left behind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Just think it would be a waste of money 10 billion baht range for an F1 stadium, surely hosting an F1 race is a 'luxury'. With essential services such as hospitals facing budgets deficits the money needs to go else where first. I'd love to see F1 cars racing in Bkk, but i'd rather have a good public health and education system. Ahh well next week some bright spark will come up with the idea of hosting the winter Olympics in Chiang Mai Thailand is right up there in the wealth stakes with Abu Dhabi, Bahrain, China, India, Canada Germany etc. Many wealthy Thais will want to get their noses in. Why, even his eminence Sheikh Tak Sin bin Shinawat of Dubai will be highly involved. No problems here. Gotta think big, after all, we will have tablet equipped students, high speed trains and a world class airport and with a bit of negotiation the circuit could be called Don Mueang Raceway, with easy access to Bangkok and all stations in all directions. I believe even Chalerm has a cunning plan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooka Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Typical negative comments from the usual armchair farangs rolling in I see! Get a life the lot of you or better still go back to the wonderful life you left behind. If I said that it cost the Victorian (Melb Aust) taxpayer 50.2 M AUD to stage the grand prix last year and it gave a return of 32 M would you consider that a negative comment. These costs increase dramatically each year. Can the thais afford around 1.8 Bil thb for a 5 day event that the vast majority would never see because of the costs? General admission tickets for the event around $265 AUD (8,560 thb) 2 months wages for most thais. These prices are to recoupe the cost of the licence and Thailand isn't going to get the licence any cheaper. Last years grand prix had around 115,000 spectators the vast majority being Australians. I can't see a grand prix boosting Thailands tourism by 300% sure you will have a few more tourists who would not usually go to Thailand come for just the grand prix but this will not be dramitic and I doubt if there would be enough to cover the costs, Thailand is still a developing country with the majority of the citizens living in poverty, without proper health care and education and personally I think the money could be better spent on these people instead of a party for the Hi So sect and a few petrolhead expats. Thailand can have a grand prix in the future but get your priorities and house in order first. If that is a negative attitude then I accept your criticism. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Finally a new use for Don Muang International Airport, OK the bends might be a problem, but there are two excellent straights ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kartman Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Is there a track that might be even remotely suitable for F1's in Thailand? I can't really see this getting off the ground, but even if it did, I don't think there would be a 300% increase in tourism ... even for a weekend. No. Bira circuit got stopped from running F3 races as it wasn't upto scratch. Just saloon stuff now. There is some other new track somewhere , but I don't think it has the or any facilities. There has been a rumour for about a year that the Red Bull family are going to build a track somewhere not too far from Bang Na, not sure where, could be anywhere between Bang Na and Chonburi City. All those saying Thailand can't do it, India look like they will. People saying about corruption then what about Singapore and they could do with doing some research on some people around F1. And of course if the rumour is true about the Red Bull family building the track then they obviously know a bit about F1, sports events and business. The Red Bull family building a track and knowing about F1 and sports events are two different entitys, Dietrich Mateschitz the world wide distributor outside Thailand knows about F1 and sports events and he won't be putting any money into a track here, if the family are into F1 there would be a Red Bull Academy here already to promote young Thai talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Sorry can't be bothered to read though thread, hope they build a track as well for hosting MotoGP in the North as well, rock on Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipo1000 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Is there a track that might be even remotely suitable for F1's in Thailand? I can't really see this getting off the ground, but even if it did, I don't think there would be a 300% increase in tourism ... even for a weekend. No. Bira circuit got stopped from running F3 races as it wasn't upto scratch. Just saloon stuff now. There is some other new track somewhere , but I don't think it has the or any facilities. There has been a rumour for about a year that the Red Bull family are going to build a track somewhere not too far from Bang Na, not sure where, could be anywhere between Bang Na and Chonburi City. All those saying Thailand can't do it, India look like they will. People saying about corruption then what about Singapore and they could do with doing some research on some people around F1. And of course if the rumour is true about the Red Bull family building the track then they obviously know a bit about F1, sports events and business. Keep in mind that the Thai part of the Red bull consortium has nothing to do with F1 or any other sports event for that matter.All sponsoring of sport events worldwide comes solely from the Austrian part of Red Bull. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungmi Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Just think it would be a waste of money 10 billion baht range for an F1 stadium, surely hosting an F1 race is a 'luxury'. With essential services such as hospitals facing budgets deficits the money needs to go else where first. I'd love to see F1 cars racing in Bkk, but i'd rather have a good public health and education system. Ahh well next week some bright spark will come up with the idea of hosting the winter Olympics in Chiang Mai Not Chiang Mai, Doi Inthanon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mijan24 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) It is interesting that Australia is reconsidering their involvement dbecauseto Mr "E" wanting it to be held under lights due to time frames for TV. I think the Australian byeline was "we have to see if it is financially viable" it would seem the same rationale is not being applied here! Then again this type of headline drags the news cover away from "the floods" "the tablets" - I seem to remember a former prime minister with the same surname using the same political gambit to draw attention away from the real happenings of the day.. Edited March 7, 2012 by mijan24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Typical negative comments from the usual armchair farangs rolling in I see! Get a life the lot of you or better still go back to the wonderful life you left behind. If I said that it cost the Victorian (Melb Aust) taxpayer 50.2 M AUD to stage the grand prix last year and it gave a return of 32 M would you consider that a negative comment. These costs increase dramatically each year. Can the thais afford around 1.8 Bil thb for a 5 day event that the vast majority would never see because of the costs? General admission tickets for the event around $265 AUD (8,560 thb) 2 months wages for most thais. These prices are to recoupe the cost of the licence and Thailand isn't going to get the licence any cheaper. Last years grand prix had around 115,000 spectators the vast majority being Australians. I can't see a grand prix boosting Thailands tourism by 300% sure you will have a few more tourists who would not usually go to Thailand come for just the grand prix but this will not be dramitic and I doubt if there would be enough to cover the costs, Thailand is still a developing country with the majority of the citizens living in poverty, without proper health care and education and personally I think the money could be better spent on these people instead of a party for the Hi So sect and a few petrolhead expats. Thailand can have a grand prix in the future but get your priorities and house in order first. If that is a negative attitude then I accept your criticism. Does the British GP cost the tax payer anything ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZEMADE Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) The only F1 race to include flying pigs. AHhh do you mean Police in choppers etc?If it does get off the ground,I will be there with bells on. Edited March 7, 2012 by OZEMADE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundaypsychos Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 most of the people making crappy little one liners and writing negative comments will probably be dead by 2014 anyway... " The money could be better spent on healthcare and education" boo-hoo get a life, motorsports rocks and if Thailand pulls it off it will be brilliant..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pipo1000 Posted March 7, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2012 Let's just hope the will not introduce a Thai F1 driver at the same time,as the odds are that he will drive against the flow. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanuman1 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 It is not going to happen, they can't even build decent roads for ordinary cars to travel on, let alone F1 cars. Au contraire, I've no doubt a shiny new circuit could be built to rival the best looking tracks in the world. As long as they didn't want to come back the following year... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipo1000 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 It is not going to happen, they can't even build decent roads for ordinary cars to travel on, let alone F1 cars. Au contraire, I've no doubt a shiny new circuit could be built to rival the best looking tracks in the world. As long as they didn't want to come back the following year... You mean that if it would start raining during the race,the potholes would appear just from one round into the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparebox2 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Bangkok already has its F1 every Friday and Saturday night already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyserSoze01 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 This is the first I have heard or read on this topic and I follow F1 on a daily basis. Not saying that inquiries have not been made, although these types of rumors find their way onto the internet very quickly. Bernie does not grant a race without all the details being completed and the most important part, payment up front to F1 prior to confirming a race. Just ask the US organizers about this little detail. I wonder if the TAT would be willing to write a check for 1.6 billion baht for the hosting fees, then cough up the cost of the venue? A street race would be possible in Bangkok, so reducing venue costs. Races are being stricken from the calendar, such as Turkey. Spain is trying to renegotiate their fee structure or withdraw the Valencia race. Australia is negotiating for lower fees or they will not renew their contract for the Albert Park race. The Indian and Korean GP's are questionable in the future as they have had low turnout since their inception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miksguevara Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) I would put money on the fact that this is a pipedream maybe one for the future ah I see we have a winner on this weeks Thailand's "regional hub of" ? not sure I follow? Edited March 7, 2012 by miksguevara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DP25 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 Is there a track that might be even remotely suitable for F1's in Thailand? I can't really see this getting off the ground, but even if it did, I don't think there would be a 300% increase in tourism ... even for a weekend. No. Bira circuit got stopped from running F3 races as it wasn't upto scratch. Just saloon stuff now. There is some other new track somewhere , but I don't think it has the or any facilities. There has been a rumour for about a year that the Red Bull family are going to build a track somewhere not too far from Bang Na, not sure where, could be anywhere between Bang Na and Chonburi City. All those saying Thailand can't do it, India look like they will. People saying about corruption then what about Singapore and they could do with doing some research on some people around F1. And of course if the rumour is true about the Red Bull family building the track then they obviously know a bit about F1, sports events and business. Keep in mind that the Thai part of the Red bull consortium has nothing to do with F1 or any other sports event for that matter.All sponsoring of sport events worldwide comes solely from the Austrian part of Red Bull. The 'Austrian' part of Red Bull that sponsors sporting events worldwide is still 51% owned by the original Thai family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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