People often end up on the streets or beach because they have suffered a great trauma in thier lives and can no longer fit in to a "normal" life style .

Wars or conflicts produce a lot of Trauma victims.......spare a thought as to why...........

You are totally correct Mcp! I remember meeting a lovely American guy in his 60's I would guess, a product of the Vietnam war (convinced the CIA was spying on him) and this was how he lived his life. Lost his wife and children due to pts and was wandering around Thailand and Laos.

When lucid he was extremely interesting, A total gent!

I would have thought that SE Asia would be preferable than the streets of London sleeping outside the Strand Palace Hotel in many ways.

Maybe he is a liar. I have met quite a few of them too.

I'm ex-SAS did you know.

How long were you a member of the Special Ambulance Service? Did you drive the ambulance itself or were you an bedside attendant?

I would grass him up.

Better for him, better for us.

Why would you want to do that? Would it give you immense satisfaction seeing the guy handcuffed and carried off to some detention centre with no hope of paying off his overstaying fine? Is this what you would class "better for him"?

Seriously sad when people take the moralistic view for something so trivial imo!

Maybe he is a liar. I have met quite a few of them too.

I'm ex-SAS did you know.

How long were you a member of the Special Ambulance Service? Did you drive the ambulance itself or were you an bedside attendant?

Do you usually miss sarcasm/satire so spectacularly or are you just that dense?

easy ive lived here over 15 years never needed a passport except when drawing a lot our of our bank accounts never had to show my passport except when leaving country. Even had some legal problems with thais and never had to show passport or other ID. I reckon you could live here for 40 years and never be caught if you did not have passport or visa

I would grass him up.

Better for him, better for us.

Why would you want to do that? Would it give you immense satisfaction seeing the guy handcuffed and carried off to some detention centre with no hope of paying off his overstaying fine? Is this what you would class "better for him"?

Seriously sad when people take the moralistic view for something so trivial imo!

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Where I used to live, there was this guy from Norway (country changed to protect the guilty), he showed up on my beach one day, not a word of Thai, two plus years overstay, no money, I mean, no money, and no change of clothes.

Nice guy, actually. Good conversationalist, intelligent.

Sleeps one night with the sand fleas, he gets "work" the next day with some locals. Cleans the beach every morning (in LOS, not as easy as it sounds, but usually three hours), gets two squares, and a room--well, a shed. But the SOB is happy as a pig in poop. The other expats buy him beer, sometimes more food. He eats, he swims, he digs his toes in the sand, watches every sunset. No bills, no debts, no obligations. No car to repair, no insurance to pay.

Immigration eats lunch at the same restaurant once a week. Never a second look at him.

I envy him.

Another but different example. Farang lives in Pattaya in very small cheap room, gets a very small pension form his home country, about 62 / 64 years old, has overstayed for many many years.

Needs a top up to survive. Travels by mocyle taxi to Nth Pattaya bus station very early every morning then in Bkk walks an hour to the language school where he teaches for a couple of hours per day, gets paid a pittance, no work permit, travels back to Pattaya every evening. Six days a week.

His total income goes on cheap small room, cheap travel and very basic food and he has perhaps 5 small bottles of beer a month, he's poorly dressed. He's happy.

But he knows well that he could lose his job at any time and he says he has no reserve whatever for sickness etc

Funny how people count happiness and wealth by stating how much beer someone buys. English trade perhaps.

So I say live and let live, but they won't be living out of my pocket.

When I retire and find my rainbow, I want to know it's my rainbow and I can keep it. So I will be staying on the right side of the law.

Two fine statements here. I think anybody who follows this advise won't go too far off the track. Well said Theblether.

Where I used to live, there was this guy from Norway (country changed to protect the guilty), he showed up on my beach one day, not a word of Thai, two plus years overstay, no money, I mean, no money, and no change of clothes.

Nice guy, actually. Good conversationalist, intelligent.

Sleeps one night with the sand fleas, he gets "work" the next day with some locals. Cleans the beach every morning (in LOS, not as easy as it sounds, but usually three hours), gets two squares, and a room--well, a shed. But the SOB is happy as a pig in poop. The other expats buy him beer, sometimes more food. He eats, he swims, he digs his toes in the sand, watches every sunset. No bills, no debts, no obligations. No car to repair, no insurance to pay.

Immigration eats lunch at the same restaurant once a week. Never a second look at him.

I envy him.

Another but different example. Farang lives in Pattaya in very small cheap room, gets a very small pension form his home country, about 62 / 64 years old, has overstayed for many many years.

Needs a top up to survive. Travels by mocyle taxi to Nth Pattaya bus station very early every morning then in Bkk walks an hour to the language school where he teaches for a couple of hours per day, gets paid a pittance, no work permit, travels back to Pattaya every evening. Six days a week.

His total income goes on cheap small room, cheap travel and very basic food and he has perhaps 5 small bottles of beer a month, he's poorly dressed. He's happy.

But he knows well that he could lose his job at any time and he says he has no reserve whatever for sickness etc

Funny how people count happiness and wealth by stating how much beer someone buys. English trade perhaps.

English trade? Im a tradie from England and i never heard of this one

Where I used to live, there was this guy from Norway (country changed to protect the guilty), he showed up on my beach one day, not a word of Thai, two plus years overstay, no money, I mean, no money, and no change of clothes.

Nice guy, actually. Good conversationalist, intelligent.

Sleeps one night with the sand fleas, he gets "work" the next day with some locals. Cleans the beach every morning (in LOS, not as easy as it sounds, but usually three hours), gets two squares, and a room--well, a shed. But the SOB is happy as a pig in poop. The other expats buy him beer, sometimes more food. He eats, he swims, he digs his toes in the sand, watches every sunset. No bills, no debts, no obligations. No car to repair, no insurance to pay.

Immigration eats lunch at the same restaurant once a week. Never a second look at him.

I envy him.

Another but different example. Farang lives in Pattaya in very small cheap room, gets a very small pension form his home country, about 62 / 64 years old, has overstayed for many many years.

Needs a top up to survive. Travels by mocyle taxi to Nth Pattaya bus station very early every morning then in Bkk walks an hour to the language school where he teaches for a couple of hours per day, gets paid a pittance, no work permit, travels back to Pattaya every evening. Six days a week.

His total income goes on cheap small room, cheap travel and very basic food and he has perhaps 5 small bottles of beer a month, he's poorly dressed. He's happy.

But he knows well that he could lose his job at any time and he says he has no reserve whatever for sickness etc

Funny how people count happiness and wealth by stating how much beer someone buys. English trade perhaps.

Dont you mean an English trait! Why this attack on the British eh?

Child pornography, drugs, alcohol abuse, prostitution exists in Holland doncha know, but most of us wise enough to know we cant point accusing fingers at the whole nationality!

Get a grip man!