hellodolly Posted April 12, 2012 Posted April 12, 2012 If I were a Thai I would abhor Taksins alignment with Hun Sen and Cambodia. It terribly unpatriotic and speaks volumes where Taksins loyalties lie. Also that Hun Sen made war with the Thais when a non Taksin government was in power is just down right despicable and low. For Thaksin those are hid good points.
Tanaka Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 He confirmed that Phnom Penh would take care of those expenses as well, though he expected "some of it" might be paid back by Thailand's ruling Puea Thai Party. Thaksin thinks Peua Thai does. I'm sure this expected payback will be discussed in Parliament? It will mean that the promised raise of minimum salary limit will have to wait a bit longer.
AleG Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 I wonder what would happen if a Cambodian pro-democracy, anti-coup group would join the Red Shirts to protest against Hun Sen?
hyperdimension Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 (edited) I wonder what would happen if a Cambodian pro-democracy, anti-coup group would join the Red Shirts to protest against Hun Sen? They'd be arrested if there were more than 200. Based on past history, they may still be arrested even if there were less than 200.From Cambodia Bans Workers from Protesting Outside Factories: Cambodia's parliament has passed a controversial law restricting the size of demonstrations. A copy of the draft law said it would restrict the size of protests to 200 people, and was aimed at ensuring "public order and national security". The law will also ban any gathering inside or outside the gates of factories or government buildings. Edited April 13, 2012 by hyperdimension
Dibbler Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 Why doesnt the big man in Cambodia recruit The Big Square face as a Minister for foreign affairs? He is far better suited to leading an ignorant populace in Cambodia, where he has failed to convince a relatively educated thai nation of his worth.
hyperdimension Posted April 13, 2012 Posted April 13, 2012 Why doesnt the big man in Cambodia recruit The Big Square face as a Minister for foreign affairs? He is far better suited to leading an ignorant populace in Cambodia, where he has failed to convince a relatively educated thai nation of his worth. Hun Sen appointed his eternal friend as Economic Advisor to Cambodia, but Thaksin lasted less than a year in that position, and I doubt he did any work anyway, whilst probably being on the Cambodian governemnt's payroll. Appointing him as "Minister for foreign affairs" probably wouldn't be any different.
ALFREDO Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) There is a saying in my country. =Show me your friends and I tell you, who you are!= So, Thaksin and Hun Sen and Yingluck did not use her chance last year to meet Aung San Suu Kyi, but flew during the flood crisis to the Myanmar Generals. Could have stayed a night in Myanmar if necessary to meet Suu Kyi, She could not divide the floods last year anyway, as Moses divided the Red Sea, what did a night make any difference. But it would have made a difference in Myanmar! Edited April 14, 2012 by ALFREDO
Moruya Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 "Thaksin, a deeply divisive figure in neighbouring Thailand who lives abroad to avoid a jail term for corruption, is set to address tens of thousands of his "Red Shirt" supporters on Saturday in northwestern Siem Reap province" Again, some clarification on this regular attempt by the media at 'historically contextualizing current events" as above......If he is such a deeply divisive figure, how is it that he was able to engineer a significant electoral victory last year, with which he was publically linked. For the Opposition and those who self-servingly coup-ed him out of existence to characterize him as such, are basically communicating the agenda of their minority electoral position in Thailand, for which he continues to be a threat. ...........Also avoiding the coup-based context of his 'jail term for corruption' is misleading. Within that context, an entirely different light is shone on the issue. Winning elections is not corruption, as much as the coupists would suggest otherwise. A million litres of petrol to burn Bangkok A million litres of blood to throw in Aphisit's garden A million man march 1,000 crocodile tears in Vientiane let's put in in perpective http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/Attendances/0,,10794~634907,00.html
Moruya Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 I heard from a chap by the name of Nam Chim that Hun Sen was particularly concerned that the visiting crowds might take to surrounding his house and throwing bags of human excrement into his garden. Jatuporn and his assistant ChanKwai are believed to be bringing the chanot for some oil fields in the gulf of Siam Reap as a symbol of their eternal gratitude
h90 Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 If the majority of Thais want him and like him, then that is good emough for me. The majority don't. His parties never win a majority of the popular vote. His party, which is really just a coalition of Isaan and Northern old school political families that would win elections even without him, consistently gets about 15 million votes out of 35-38 million voters, out of a total electorate of 45 million. As much as it pains Thaksin propagandists to admit, support for his coalition, let alone for him, has never been a majority of Thais, let alone the vast majority as they try to claim Yes they won a parliamentary majority. Put that in your pie and smoke it! yes with massive vote buying
h90 Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 There is a saying in my country. =Show me your friends and I tell you, who you are!= So, Thaksin and Hun Sen and Yingluck did not use her chance last year to meet Aung San Suu Kyi, but flew during the flood crisis to the Myanmar Generals. Could have stayed a night in Myanmar if necessary to meet Suu Kyi, She could not divide the floods last year anyway, as Moses divided the Red Sea, what did a night make any difference. But it would have made a difference in Myanmar! If Aung San Suu Kyi gets some billions Yingluck will visit her. No money no honey.... 1
waza Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 There is a saying in my country. =Show me your friends and I tell you, who you are!= So, Thaksin and Hun Sen and Yingluck did not use her chance last year to meet Aung San Suu Kyi, but flew during the flood crisis to the Myanmar Generals. Could have stayed a night in Myanmar if necessary to meet Suu Kyi, She could not divide the floods last year anyway, as Moses divided the Red Sea, what did a night make any difference. But it would have made a difference in Myanmar! If Aung San Suu Kyi gets some billions Yingluck will visit her. No money no honey.... I can imagine a coversation between them, Aung San Suu Kyi would be saying democracy, basic human rights and freedom and Yingluck would reply, "who makes those perfumes?" giggle and sing to herself, "I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world. 1
h90 Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 There is a saying in my country. =Show me your friends and I tell you, who you are!= So, Thaksin and Hun Sen and Yingluck did not use her chance last year to meet Aung San Suu Kyi, but flew during the flood crisis to the Myanmar Generals. Could have stayed a night in Myanmar if necessary to meet Suu Kyi, She could not divide the floods last year anyway, as Moses divided the Red Sea, what did a night make any difference. But it would have made a difference in Myanmar! If Aung San Suu Kyi gets some billions Yingluck will visit her. No money no honey.... I can imagine a coversation between them, Aung San Suu Kyi would be saying democracy, basic human rights and freedom and Yingluck would reply, "who makes those perfumes?" giggle and sing to herself, "I'm a barbie girl, in a barbie world. Well Aung San Suu Kyi has also some dark sides....It is easy to speak about democracy, basic human rights and freedom when you aren't in power. I am not sure what she would do if she has the power and is on the way to loose an election. I recall when she asked everyone to boykot Myanmar, even that would only hurt the poor people (but economic problems would increase her popularity). Or when the USA financed her and some of the more evil groups (which use forced child soldiers) we didn't hear some critic word from her.
Skywalker69 Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 If the majority of Thais want him and like him, then that is good emough for me. The majority don't. His parties never win a majority of the popular vote. His party, which is really just a coalition of Isaan and Northern old school political families that would win elections even without him, consistently gets about 15 million votes out of 35-38 million voters, out of a total electorate of 45 million. As much as it pains Thaksin propagandists to admit, support for his coalition, let alone for him, has never been a majority of Thais, let alone the vast majority as they try to claim Yes they won a parliamentary majority. Put that in your pie and smoke it! How do you smoke a pie?
Crushdepth Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 "Thaksin, a deeply divisive figure in neighbouring Thailand who lives abroad to avoid a jail term for corruption, is set to address tens of thousands of his "Red Shirt" supporters on Saturday in northwestern Siem Reap province" Again, some clarification on this regular attempt by the media at 'historically contextualizing current events" as above......If he is such a deeply divisive figure, how is it that he was able to engineer a significant electoral victory last year, with which he was publically linked. For the Opposition and those who self-servingly coup-ed him out of existence to characterize him as such, are basically communicating the agenda of their minority electoral position in Thailand, for which he continues to be a threat. ...........Also avoiding the coup-based context of his 'jail term for corruption' is misleading. Within that context, an entirely different light is shone on the issue. Winning elections is not corruption, as much as the coupists would suggest otherwise. Unbelievable. If you can't see that Thaksin is a divisive figure, there is something seriously wrong with you. It's basically impossible to have a debate with people who don't have room for reality in their world view. Why don't you leave off the lame duck People's Propaganda and go write a manifesto in a closet somewhere. Winning elections while engaging in serial electoral fraud and vote buying certainly is corruption. That's why they have penalties for it.
ALFREDO Posted April 14, 2012 Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) -h90- Well, your harsh words are new to me, "Well Aung San Suu Kyi has also some dark sides..." But against the Myanmar Goverment she shines same an "Angel" also, with her shortcomings in your mind. As a just elected Female Thai Prime minister Miss Yingluck, could have given a positive signal, to meet the popular Myanmar female politician Suu Kyi and once with her Party elected party chairwoman, the Prime minister position in sight. From woman to woman! Edited April 14, 2012 by ALFREDO
h90 Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 -h90- Well, your harsh words are new to me, "Well Aung San Suu Kyi has also some dark sides..." But against the Myanmar Goverment she shines same an "Angel" also, with her shortcomings in your mind. As a just elected Female Thai Prime minister Miss Yingluck, could have given a positive signal, to meet the popular Myanmar female politician Suu Kyi and once with her Party elected party chairwoman, the Prime minister position in sight. From woman to woman! Well the Myanmar Gouvernment did very bad (maybe excluding the last few years) and Aung San Suu Kyi was locked away even she was elected. So she was elected and should have been in power. But there is nothing more positiv about her. She could not do any good things, because the junta didn't let her do something. But she did a lot that hurt the poor people. As well she would have been a free person if she would have quit politics. It is well known that embargos only hit the poor people. If she would have gone outside, advocate for fair trade with Myanmar but against the regime than she would have my respect. So it is just USA against China, who get more from the cake and never mind the poor people. Don't misunderstand me, I am not saying she is bad or evil, but she has nothing done that supports this hype about her.
looping Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 Cambodia deploys huge security for Thaksin rallyPHNOM PENH, April 12, 2012 (AFP) - Cambodia will deploy thousands of security personnel to police a mass rally for ousted Thai premier Thaksin Shinawatra this weekend, officials said Thursday. He confirmed that Phnom Penh would take care of those expenses as well, though he expected "some of it" might be paid back by Thailand's ruling Puea Thai Party. -- (c) Copyright AFP 2012-04-12 So this PR stunt will be paid for by the Cambodian govt. and the Thai govt. He must be loving being state funded again. Such a shame that with so many starving and homeless in Cambodia, millions is being spent on keeping this idiot in the limelight. With PTP helping to fund this, surely the Dems have a case against them, seems amazing that they could directly fund this criminal's campaign. It just seems very wrong and yet not at all surprising. RIP Thailand.
GazR Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 If the majority of Thais want him and like him, then that is good emough for me. The majority don't. His parties never win a majority of the popular vote. His party, which is really just a coalition of Isaan and Northern old school political families that would win elections even without him, consistently gets about 15 million votes out of 35-38 million voters, out of a total electorate of 45 million. As much as it pains Thaksin propagandists to admit, support for his coalition, let alone for him, has never been a majority of Thais, let alone the vast majority as they try to claim Yes they won a parliamentary majority. Put that in your pie and smoke it! How do you smoke a pie? Until it's done like a dinner..
cardholder Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 If I were a Thai I would abhor Taksins alignment with Hun Sen and Cambodia. It terribly unpatriotic and speaks volumes where Taksins loyalties lie. Also that Hun Sen made war with the Thais when a non Taksin government was in power is just down right despicable and low. Which war was that ?
ALFREDO Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 (edited) But she did a lot that hurt the poor people. Don't misunderstand me, I am not saying she is bad or evil, but she has nothing done that supports this hype about her. The Burmese-Myanmar people see that much different to you it seems and that counts! Edited April 16, 2012 by ALFREDO
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