Batterie

[h90]

We have an old Volvo which we use approx. every 6 month.

After 1-2 month the battery is empty (clock).

Just now I started it with the help of someone else. let it run 1 hour but the batterie can't start it again (we had that before).

Is a batterie broken after 6 month on zero? Any chance to repair it?

I told my wife that we should screw contacts off.

Would that help: screw off the connections. After 6 month maybe the battery won't start the car anymore but it would not be broken.

Right or wrong???

I would screw off the + cable, but the place is small and risk to touch something, would it be OK if she screw off the - cable?

Or are there brands of batteries which can stay complete empty without harm?

[Kwasaki]

6 months is quite a time to leave a battery without trickle charge equipment connected.

When you say an old Volvo how old. ?

Dis-connection of the battery may be possible.

Repair it !! Well a trickle charge may bring it back to life.

How old is the battery. ?

Does the battery have full fluid level. ?

" Or are there brands of batteries which can stay complete empty without harm ? " Don't understand what you mean exactly by this question.

[fezzy]

" Or are there brands of batteries which can stay complete empty without harm ? "

Do you mean DEEP cycle battery which is a battery you can drain to nothing and will charge back up full charge or thereabouts ,only problem with these types is that they are expensive and you would still possibly still have to charge it up to start your car after it has been sitting idle for 6 months .

I have gone for the mains powered trickle charger method that you leave connected to your battery and has a fast removal plug type connector so you dont require any tools.

trickle charger ~ 1800bt

battery~ 3000 bt

no more problems

[Shurup]

That what many of my friends do - a trickle charger based on solar panel. They say it (panel) doesn't need to be huge.

I just disconnect the battery when I leave my vehicle for a month or longer, it always starts right up after I reconnect it.

[h90]

thanks everyone!

I'll buy a new battery and just disconnect it when the car isn't needed.

Charger does not work as this building does not have electric, as I am not the owner of the building and it can not be locked I don't want to install a solar panel.

If the batterie is too weak to start after 6 month: No problem, just I don't want to buy a new batterie everytime.

Volvo is estimate 15 years old, maybe a bit older. But just 200.000 km.

[h90]

Age: 2536, so 19 years, or?

[VocalNeal]

thanks everyone!

I'll buy a new battery and just disconnect it when the car isn't needed.

Charger does not work as this building does not have electric, as I am not the owner of the building and it can not be locked I don't want to install a solar panel.

If the batterie is too weak to start after 6 month: No problem, just I don't want to buy a new batterie everytime.

Volvo is estimate 15 years old, maybe a bit older. But just 200.000 km.

Your plan will work. Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months.

You don't have to "install" a solar trickle charger simply connect it to the disconnected battery and stick it in the car where it will get the most sun. About $50 plus import duty etc.

[h90]

thanks everyone!

I'll buy a new battery and just disconnect it when the car isn't needed.

Charger does not work as this building does not have electric, as I am not the owner of the building and it can not be locked I don't want to install a solar panel.

If the batterie is too weak to start after 6 month: No problem, just I don't want to buy a new batterie everytime.

Volvo is estimate 15 years old, maybe a bit older. But just 200.000 km.

Your plan will work. Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months.

You don't have to "install" a solar trickle charger simply connect it to the disconnected battery and stick it in the car where it will get the most sun. About $50 plus import duty etc.

does this solar trickle charger need much light? The car is "under" a house. there is light but no direct sun+the windows of the car gets very dirty (really very dirty).

[VocalNeal]

Solar cells do not need direct sunlight but I have no direct experience. Your solar calculator will charge even if not in direct sunlight. Even reflected sunlight works.

I'm still thinking the remove and trickle charge in the house and re-fit every 6 months is simpler and in theory fool proof. Unless you disconnect the house power when away.

[h90]

Solar cells do not need direct sunlight but I have no direct experience. Your solar calculator will charge even if not in direct sunlight. Even reflected sunlight works.

I'm still thinking the remove and trickle charge in the house and re-fit every 6 months is simpler and in theory fool proof. Unless you disconnect the house power when away.

For the trickle charge: what is that? That isn't a normal charger, or?

Or can I use a normal charger and charge with a timer every day 15 min (would be the easiest solution). (or if that is too much have somewhere if I can find it, a digital timer which can be programed as low as 1 min per week).

[Kwasaki]

For the trickle charge: what is that? That isn't a normal charger, or?

Or can I use a normal charger and charge with a timer every day 15 min (would be the easiest solution). (or if that is too much have somewhere if I can find it, a digital timer which can be programed as low as 1 min per week).

An ordinary trickle charger will need an electric supply, there are small plug in types available.

Your Volvo car is OK to dis-connect the battery, the car will not be affected by this as are some new cars of today.

The battery you have now can be tested to see whether it needs replacing, maybe it only needs a charge depends how old it is.

Personally in your situation I think this as quoted before your best solution...........................

quote " Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months." unquote.

[h90]

For the trickle charge: what is that? That isn't a normal charger, or?

Or can I use a normal charger and charge with a timer every day 15 min (would be the easiest solution). (or if that is too much have somewhere if I can find it, a digital timer which can be programed as low as 1 min per week).

An ordinary trickle charger will need an electric supply, there are small plug in types available.

Your Volvo car is OK to dis-connect the battery, the car will not be affected by this as are some new cars of today.

The battery you have now can be tested to see whether it needs replacing, maybe it only needs a charge depends how old it is.

Personally in your situation I think this as quoted before your best solution...........................

quote " Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months." unquote.

I have a bit of a problem with the term "trickle charger" or "trickle charged" (English is not my first language).

Is that a normal car batterie charger, or is that something special?

[transam]

For the trickle charge: what is that? That isn't a normal charger, or?

Or can I use a normal charger and charge with a timer every day 15 min (would be the easiest solution). (or if that is too much have somewhere if I can find it, a digital timer which can be programed as low as 1 min per week).

An ordinary trickle charger will need an electric supply, there are small plug in types available.

Your Volvo car is OK to dis-connect the battery, the car will not be affected by this as are some new cars of today.

The battery you have now can be tested to see whether it needs replacing, maybe it only needs a charge depends how old it is.

Personally in your situation I think this as quoted before your best solution...........................

quote " Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months." unquote.

I have a bit of a problem with the term "trickle charger" or "trickle charged" (English is not my first language).

Is that a normal car batterie charger, or is that something special?

It's a gadget that you can connect to the battery and leave it connected. It puts in a small charge that keeps the battery fully charged. Great piece of kit.

[Shurup]

I have a bit of a problem with the term "trickle charger" or "trickle charged" (English is not my first language).

Is that a normal car batterie charger, or is that something special?

To answer your question, No it's not a normal charger. A normal charger would have a lot higher current (Amperage) to charge the battery relatively quick.

As you leave your car un-used for so long, there are small electronic gadgets (a clock for example) and other crap in your car that drain battery, very slow but over the cource of a few months it can get empty.

Trickle charger supplies very small current, 100s times smaller than a normal charger. It's just enough to keep the battery full.

[h90]

I have a bit of a problem with the term "trickle charger" or "trickle charged" (English is not my first language).

Is that a normal car batterie charger, or is that something special?

To answer your question, No it's not a normal charger. A normal charger would have a lot higher current (Amperage) to charge the battery relatively quick.

As you leave your car un-used for so long, there are small electronic gadgets (a clock for example) and other crap in your car that drain battery, very slow but over the cource of a few months it can get empty.

Trickle charger supplies very small current, 100s times smaller than a normal charger. It's just enough to keep the battery full.

I read that it is possible to use a Computer UPS as trickle charger. It happens that I have on running in that house.

Possible to just add to wires and use it, with the advantage that it would do its job as ups longer if there is no electric.

I doubt that it would be easy for me to find a trickle charger in Thailand

[Semper]

I have a bit of a problem with the term "trickle charger" or "trickle charged" (English is not my first language).

Is that a normal car batterie charger, or is that something special?

To answer your question, No it's not a normal charger. A normal charger would have a lot higher current (Amperage) to charge the battery relatively quick.

As you leave your car un-used for so long, there are small electronic gadgets (a clock for example) and other crap in your car that drain battery, very slow but over the cource of a few months it can get empty.

Trickle charger supplies very small current, 100s times smaller than a normal charger. It's just enough to keep the battery full.

I read that it is possible to use a Computer UPS as trickle charger. It happens that I have on running in that house.

Possible to just add to wires and use it, with the advantage that it would do its job as ups longer if there is no electric.

I doubt that it would be easy for me to find a trickle charger in Thailand

From an older thread:

"the best trickle chargers are the CTEK's patented in Sweden, made in China, they're for sale in Thailand at VVP on Srinakarin road.

These really do the work, they won't overcharge since they're regulated properly, they can deliver quite some charge if required. Recall they're around 3k baht. These are especxially good if you have longer periods of non use"

[Kwasaki]

For the trickle charge: what is that? That isn't a normal charger, or?

Or can I use a normal charger and charge with a timer every day 15 min (would be the easiest solution). (or if that is too much have somewhere if I can find it, a digital timer which can be programed as low as 1 min per week).

An ordinary trickle charger will need an electric supply, there are small plug in types available.

Your Volvo car is OK to dis-connect the battery, the car will not be affected by this as are some new cars of today.

The battery you have now can be tested to see whether it needs replacing, maybe it only needs a charge depends how old it is.

Personally in your situation I think this as quoted before your best solution...........................

quote " Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months." unquote.

I have a bit of a problem with the term "trickle charger" or "trickle charged" (English is not my first language).

Is that a normal car batterie charger, or is that something special?

It's a gadget that you can connect to the battery and leave it connected. It puts in a small charge that keeps the battery fully charged. Great piece of kit.

I will try and make it as clear as I can.

As " trans " has said good gadget but it needs an electric supply, you said before in a previous No.5 you have no electric where the car is stored

A trickle charger or pulse charger, works as in sensing when the battery needs a top up charge without overcharging or causing any damage to the battery and can be left connected to an electrical supply for the amount of time you leave your battery.

That said I would still recommend that there is someone to over-see and check on this connection from time to time for the period connected.

The equipment called a mains battery charger is a full on charge to a battery, some good quality ones can detect whether or not the battery is able to be charged but still need dis-connecting when the charge to the battery is complete.

Some mains chargers can detect when the charge is full to the battery and they switch off and then dis-connected there charge by switching off.

As you said you have no eletric supply that's why my post No.7 where it quoted from a post :-

quote " Better would to leave the battery somewhere where it can be trickle charged and pay someone to carry it to the car every 6 months." unquote.

I got my plug in pulse charger from UK it was £4.50p.