Homeless Farang

[farang000999]

Could not help but notice a homeless farang today walking on Sukhumwit between Soi 22 and Soi 20. He was shirtless and wearing only socks, no shoes and carrying a ratty backpack. Did not look good at all.

[tw25rw]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

[khunron13]

Ok.

[w11guy]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa because there is a homeless farang living under the stairs of Nana station? That's a new one.

[beano2274]

Used to see a tall skinny guy with glasses at Mochit, but not seen him for a while.

[strollling]

Not to worry, he probably eats out of bins, so has a healthier diet than most Thais.

[jalansanitwong]

Some Buddha temples let homeless farangs live there for free until they sort themselves out. I know a farang who lost millions of baht here in Bangkok on booze ,ganja and Thai bar wives and ended up in the temple. He eventually got deported.

[eddo]

I think he likes the way he lives, otherwise he went to his embassy already for assistance that's the place one has to go to when your in trouble abroad.

[djayz]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

[angiud]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

You are a very sensitive person

[Wavefloater]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa because there is a homeless farang living under the stairs of Nana station? That's a new one.

Ya, I can't figure that one out, either.

I'm sure tw25rw has his logic, and I'd like to hear it, but I just can't get my head around why some guy of unknown nationality who is homeless in Thailand, either by choice or circumstance, would have any possible effect on the decisions made by UK immigration.

[Payboy]

Used to see a tall skinny guy with glasses at Mochit, but not seen him for a while.

Need new glasses?

[Wavefloater]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

Actually, farang are allowed to work here legally. I do, I have a work permit. And I.m a farang.

But the point I want to make is that most homeless people are in their situation due to psychological problems, and those problems are often quite severe. Whether the problems have been aggravated by use of drugs, including alcohol, shouldn't really matter. What's important, I think, is that people should try to understand that some people have awful things happen to them that can send their lives into a tailspin. To look at some poor homeless people and instantly condemn them, assuming they are lazy worthless bums who have chosen such a dismal fate is quite naive and immature.

djayz, I have to assume that you are a young man who has been pretty much spoon fed a comfortable life and are unable to see the world from another person's perspective. Of course, you don't like what I say here, but it's not said to make you angry or start a battle -- only in hope that you may find a little more compassion for the less fortunate. Challenge your mind to find a way to empathise with those you encounter through your life. You'll honestly be a better person for it.

Edited May 4, 2012 by Wavefloater

[beano2274]

I think he likes the way he lives, otherwise he went to his embassy already for assistance that's the place one has to go to when your in trouble abroad.

Obviously you do not know much about the Embassies, all they do is contact someone in your home country who can help you, they will do nothing. I know

[MrRed]

Some Buddha temples let homeless farangs live there for free until they sort themselves out. I know a farang who lost millions of baht here in Bangkok on booze ,ganja and Thai bar wives and ended up in the temple. He eventually got deported.

Would you like to write my book?

[Misterwhisper]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa because there is a homeless farang living under the stairs of Nana station? That's a new one.

Ya, I can't figure that one out, either.

I'm sure tw25rw has his logic, and I'd like to hear it, but I just can't get my head around why some guy of unknown nationality who is homeless in Thailand, either by choice or circumstance, would have any possible effect on the decisions made by UK immigration.

I think what he's trying to say is: "If the UK's visa regulations weren't so tough on Thai nationals, there would be scores of homeless Thais living under the stairs of Tower Bridge." Fat chance.

[hedonist44]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

Feel better now ?

[Payboy]

I think what he's trying to say is: "If the UK's visa regulations weren't so tough on Thai nationals, there would be scores of homeless Thais living under the stairs of Tower Bridge." Fat chance.

Yeah, everyone knows there are no vacancies under the stairs of Tower Bridge.

[Nisa]

Some Buddha temples let homeless farangs live there for free until they sort themselves out. I know a farang who lost millions of baht here in Bangkok on booze ,ganja and Thai bar wives and ended up in the temple. He eventually got deported.

I think think this is true of just about any temple, regardless of nationality, if you are willing to learn and obey the rules ... Buddhism doesn't have color or boundaries.

I also think most of the homeless Thai people see are not actually Thai ... just like many of the street beggars are not Thai.

[Gary A]

Someone who moves to a foreign country should always have a backup plan in case the dream turns to crap. That frequently happens. It's difficult for me to work up a lot of sympathy for the guys who refuse to plan ahead.

I know a guy who was in the position that he had no money, no job and no idea what he was going to do next. Our group of local bar flies took up a collection and bought him a ticket home. Did he go home? Nope, he cashed in the ticket and stayed until that money was gone. Believe it or not we ended up buying him a change of clothes and another ticket home. This time he was escorted to the airport and the escorts made sure that he had checked in and could not cash in that ticket.

[djayz]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

Actually, farang are allowed to work here legally. I do, I have a work permit. And I.m a farang.

But the point I want to make is that most homeless people are in their situation due to psychological problems, and those problems are often quite severe. Whether the problems have been aggravated by use of drugs, including alcohol, shouldn't really matter. What's important, I think, is that people should try to understand that some people have awful things happen to them that can send their lives into a tailspin. To look at some poor homeless people and instantly condemn them, assuming they are lazy worthless bums who have chosen such a dismal fate is quite naive and immature.

djayz, I have to assume that you are a young man who has been pretty much spoon fed a comfortable life and are unable to see the world from another person's perspective. Of course, you don't like what I say here, but it's not said to make you angry or start a battle -- only in hope that you may find a little more compassion for the less fortunate. Challenge your mind to find a way to empathise with those you encounter through your life. You'll honestly be a better person for it.

... and I too have no desire to start a battle of words, but I would like to point out that I most certainly have not been spoon fed and I am anything but naive or immature. The way I see it, some people live in houses/apartments, have jobs and families, others don't. That's life. It could happen to you or me, that I know and understand.

I'm understand some of the homeless have psychological problems, but I'm convinced most of them are on the streets because of drug/alcohol abuse, bar ladies, mismanaging their money and through pure laziness (the most common reasons). That's just my opinion and I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them - farang or otherwise.

[Wavefloater]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

Actually, farang are allowed to work here legally. I do, I have a work permit. And I.m a farang.

But the point I want to make is that most homeless people are in their situation due to psychological problems, and those problems are often quite severe. Whether the problems have been aggravated by use of drugs, including alcohol, shouldn't really matter. What's important, I think, is that people should try to understand that some people have awful things happen to them that can send their lives into a tailspin. To look at some poor homeless people and instantly condemn them, assuming they are lazy worthless bums who have chosen such a dismal fate is quite naive and immature.

djayz, I have to assume that you are a young man who has been pretty much spoon fed a comfortable life and are unable to see the world from another person's perspective. Of course, you don't like what I say here, but it's not said to make you angry or start a battle -- only in hope that you may find a little more compassion for the less fortunate. Challenge your mind to find a way to empathise with those you encounter through your life. You'll honestly be a better person for it.

... and I too have no desire to start a battle of words, but I would like to point out that I most certainly have not been spoon fed and I am anything but naive or immature. The way I see it, some people live in houses/apartments, have jobs and families, others don't. That's life. It could happen to you or me, that I know and understand.

I'm understand some of the homeless have psychological problems, but I'm convinced most of them are on the streets because of drug/alcohol abuse, bar ladies, mismanaging their money and through pure laziness (the most common reasons). That's just my opinion and I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them - farang or otherwise.

Fair enough. We see the world differently, and that's not at all unusual. I realize that saying you gave me the impression of someone who is young and naive is a bit harsh, but your opinion really struck me that way. I just can't really believe that many of the homeless make a conscientious decision to be homeless due to laziness. Human nature is so deeply ingrained that we can't defy it, and it's human nature to feel one's life has value and validity. That is usually realized by working to feel productive and establishing good social networks. Further, I feel that some people are born with addictive personalities, and those who fall victim to drugs, alcohol, or even sexual addiction are just that -- victims. Certainly, nothing in life is black and white, and there are always going to be people who make poor choices, so yes, some of the homeless may appear not to deserve sympathy.

Bottom line is that we'll agree to disagree (and fortunately do it in a civilized manner). I'm glad you returned to expand on your perspective, and I respect that.

Edited May 4, 2012 by Wavefloater

[apetley]

I think he likes the way he lives, otherwise he went to his embassy already for assistance that's the place one has to go to when your in trouble abroad.

It's obvious that you're not British saying that.

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[nick0267]

some people are a little harsh, okay in Thailand granted: these homeless farang may well have spent all their money and have nowhere to live and ultimately need help (to get home) but most / a lot of homeless in the UK are ex-servicemen. That said we often used to see a guy in soi 8 who was offered help but never wanted it, still the local stall holders and the 7-11 used to hand out stuff to him - he hasn't been seen in over 6 months, he had tatty shorts, ripped shirt and one shoe, only God knows how old he is and where he came from, he kept himself vey much to himself.

[chinook]

It's often caused by alcohol abuse. A Yorkshire chap in his early forties called 'Sharky' whom I vaguely knew from BKK a few years back died in Hat Yai Hospital last week after living on the streets and bottle too long. Septic shock and severe pneumonia.The problem with giving these sorts money is the likelyhood of them misusing it and worsening their situation.

[pmarlin]

I think he likes the way he lives, otherwise he went to his embassy already for assistance that's the place one has to go to when your in trouble abroad.

they will just tell him to turn hinself in to the Thai Police after letting him make a couple of phone calls home to get help..

[rott]

Who really cares? I've seen homeless Thais but I've never seen anybody start a thread about them...

Most of them (the Thais as well as the Caucasians) strike me as being good-for-nothing, lazy bums.

Given the choice between working or living off of others they choose the latter.

Oh, and the counter argument that "farangs" aren't allowed to work in Thailand is a pretty lame excuse. I'm not Thai and I work here (legally).

On this occasion the argument that farangs aren't allowed to work in Thailand is probably irrelevant because this individual is unlikely to be capable of doing a day's work.

In general though the argument is relevant because only people in a very limited number of occupations qualify for work permits.

And more than a few sound just as smug as you do, if you don't mind me saying.

[PattayaParent]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa because there is a homeless farang living under the stairs of Nana station? That's a new one.

Ya, I can't figure that one out, either.

I'm sure tw25rw has his logic, and I'd like to hear it, but I just can't get my head around why some guy of unknown nationality who is homeless in Thailand, either by choice or circumstance, would have any possible effect on the decisions made by UK immigration.

I think what he's trying to say is: "If the UK's visa regulations weren't so tough on Thai nationals, there would be scores of homeless Thais living under the stairs of Tower Bridge." Fat chance.

We'd just give them a council house and dole and then let them bring their families over too.

[tw25rw]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa because there is a homeless farang living under the stairs of Nana station? That's a new one.

No, because we have enough foreigners living rough/off the state.

[tw25rw]

There's one that lives under the stairs of Nana station near soi 6 as well.. I used him to illustrate to my girlfriend why we had to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa.

You have to jump through so many hoops to get a UK visitor visa because there is a homeless farang living under the stairs of Nana station? That's a new one.

Ya, I can't figure that one out, either.

I'm sure tw25rw has his logic, and I'd like to hear it, but I just can't get my head around why some guy of unknown nationality who is homeless in Thailand, either by choice or circumstance, would have any possible effect on the decisions made by UK immigration.

I think what he's trying to say is: "If the UK's visa regulations weren't so tough on Thai nationals, there would be scores of homeless Thais living under the stairs of Tower Bridge." Fat chance.

Funnily enough, my Thai gf was keen to go and see Tower Bridge so I took her there on Sunday when the rain eased. Getting her to sleep outdoors would be difficult though. She needs to wrap herself in my duvet and sleep next to the radiator.