Amnesty rate all countries with the death penalty as poor, check us rating. How many people on here who slag off Thailand for implementing the death sentence would not like to see it in the country they turned their back on.

I don't slag off Thailand for implementing the death penalty, but I for one would hate to see it reintroduced in the UK.

Same here.

They did leave out a bit from the DSI report, namely the last sentence below:

19 May, 2012 - Nation

DSI Chief Tharit Pengdit said there is solid evidence proving state officials were involved with the deaths of 16 out of 89 persons during the April-May 2010 protest of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the red shirt movement.

The cases have been forwarded to the metropolitan police to conduct further investigation but police also asked more investigation files of six other deaths from the department, Mr Tharit said.

Altogether 22 deaths might have been due to state officials, the DSI chief said, adding several cases are already in court.

Mr Tharit however noted that among 89 deaths, 12 were believed to have been killed by the red shirts, while in another 55 cases the identity of the killers were not yet identified.

Do the deaths attributed to the red shirts include those by the black shirts?

As to the report it would seem a pretty fair assessment. Thailand has some wonderfully lax attitudes and some which are hard to fathom if you come from a country where free speech is central to the way of life. .

Edited May 30, 201214 yr by bigbamboo

They did leave out a bit from the DSI report, namely the last sentence below:

19 May, 2012 - Nation

DSI Chief Tharit Pengdit said there is solid evidence proving state officials were involved with the deaths of 16 out of 89 persons during the April-May 2010 protest of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), the red shirt movement.

The cases have been forwarded to the metropolitan police to conduct further investigation but police also asked more investigation files of six other deaths from the department, Mr Tharit said.

Altogether 22 deaths might have been due to state officials, the DSI chief said, adding several cases are already in court.

Mr Tharit however noted that among 89 deaths, 12 were believed to have been killed by the red shirts, while in another 55 cases the identity of the killers were not yet identified.

Do the deaths attributed to the red shirts include those by the black shirts?

As to the report it would seem a pretty fair assessment. Thailand has some wonderfully lax attitudes and some which are hard to fathom if you come from a country where free speech is central to the way of life. .

2 journalists describe that they saw armed protestors, so let's hear no more about the peaceful protest.

"They had AR-15s, TAR-21s, M16s, AK-47s" "They attacked soldiers with AK-47 and HK-33 assault rifles, and M79 grenade launchers."

http://www.hrw.org/node/98399/section/5

Amnesty have a somewhat unwieldy definition of abuses imo. More people die from poor driving standards on Thailands roads.....

The standard of driving in country has nothing to do with human rights.

It is the governments responsibility to install and maintain regulated training schemes for drivers,and for doing the same for traffic police and road-builders. In Thailand successive governments have neglected to do this causing untold numbers of deaths. My point was that "neglect" is also "abuse". Thais have the human right to travel to school and work safely, yet their government denies them this basic human right by not creating safety laws and by with-holding essential monetary fund for infrastructure development. See also water mismanagement & monitoring / control of toxic substances ( excessive spraying in residential areas where kids are playing for example) etc. It is all unregulated because regulation costs money & the Govt. need money for their own crooked schemes - that is human rights abuse.

Neglect is not abuse, look at any dictionary. AI is criticising the Thai government for what AI sees as ignoring the human rights of Thais in the systematic maltreatment of of non-ethnic Thais in the South, the failure to bring to justice anyone for the killings in the Redshirt protest/insurrection (choose your own label) and the misuse of the Lese Majeste law and Computer Crime Act to repress dissent.

IMO this country is sufficiently aware to know that none of these is necessary but they are being exploited for a different agenda which suits those with power.