Thai Intelligence Agencies Put On Alert

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Intelligence agencies put on alert

Piyanart Srivalo,

Panya Tiwsangwal

The Nation

Deputy Prime Minister Yuthasak Sasiprapha

Yuthasak rejects coup rumours as yellow shirts plan to lay siege to Parliament.

BANGKOK: -- All 12 military, civilian and police intelligence agencies have been ordered to monitor an ongoing political rally against a Pheu Thai Party attempt to debate a bill in favour of defacto leader Thaksin Shinawatra, according to a directive from Deputy Prime Minister Yuthasak Sasiprapha signed yesterday.

He said the heightened intelligence service would be helpful in "silencing" rumours of a possible military coup, which had been circulated among redshirt supporters and media. The rumours said a coup would be staged in support of the rally organised jointly by the yellowshirt People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD), the antiThaksin Multicoloured group, and the 13 Siam Thai movement.

Dismissing the rumour, Yuthasak said that as the keyman running the overall military affairs he could say it was not possible. He said redshirt Deputy Agriculture Minister Natthawut Saikua and hardcore leader Jatuporn Promphan had merely stated it as a warning, and to urge the redshirts to be ready for a massive mobilisation.

A Government House source, citing immediate intelligence briefings, said that the PAD planned to seize the areas around Parliament over the weekend in preparation for the rally against the reconciliation bill.

The PAD crowd will not be larger than 5,000 as on Thursday and yesterday, said the source. The opposition Democrat Party does not plan to mobilise its own supporters but was waiting to assist the rally, especially the Multicoloured shirt movement.

Acting secretarygeneral to the prime minister, Thawat Bunfueng, said Yingluck Shinawatra was not worried about the PAD rally, because the crowd was small, and crowdcontrol police had been put on alert for emergency deployment. Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok.

Army commander General Prayuth Chanocha said it was unlikely that the rally would turn violent and prompt the military to send a backup force to assist the police in crowdcontrol operations. He said the military was vouching for all peaceful and nonviolent measures that would move the country forward to untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill.

Asked what the military would do if the situation turned violent, Prayuth said that depended on the government. "If the order comes from the government, the military would follow, acting under existing emergency decrees which define the military's role in keeping law and order."

Natthawut and Jatuporn had earlier made a statement calling on the redshirts to follow their orders, as well as that of the acting chair of the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship, for possible mobilisation in the event of a coup. They could also follow orders of redshirt core leaders in case all three of them were apprehended.

-- The Nation 2012-06-02

[endure]

When are these dinosaurs going to realise that Thailand belongs to all the Thais not just them?

[chooka]

Here we go again, the elite yellowshirts are about to plunge Thailand into kaos again. What is it with these people?

[Yunla]

defacto leader Thaksin Shinawatra

Or to put it another way, "dangerous fleeing criminal Thaksin Shinawatra".

measures that would move the country forward to untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill.

And there you have the central problem. Bills are supposed to promote unity and prosperity for the citizenry, or to augment and improve existing legislation for the benefit of the electorate.

Before Yingluck started this bill process, Thailand was not seeing demonstrations or threats of coup and did not have police and James Bond on standby. Yingluck *knew* the chaos that would accompany this bill, the potential loss of life, the unbalancing of society yet again, but she went through with it anyway. How completely self-interested she truly is, to cause all these problems just to exonerate her guilty criminal brother. Has she no shame?

She arrived in this PM job and could have just worked through policies for Thailand, and worked hard by being at the centre of political debate and policy-augmentation, and seen Thailand grow and prosper peacefully without coups and battles and sonic-cannons and talk of dead demonstrators. She chose to bring this bill through, knowing it would unbalance an already fragile developing nation & lead to further division and Thai against Thai.

She had a mandate and could have used it for a genuine unity government - listening to all sides and not making any unpopular personal-interest bills, but instead it is Yingluck Shinawatra who has created the very chaos that the intelligence agencies are now promising to "untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill". That line from the OP should read - "ongoing political conflicts coming with Yingluck Shinawatra" since she brought it in her portfolio in 2011 & has done nothing but try to implement it since.

Edited June 2, 2012 by Yunla

[Soutpeel]

Here we go again, the elite yellowshirts are about to plunge Thailand into kaos again. What is it with these people?

and one would suspect closely followed by the redshirt thugs doing the same, so whats with these people...same same but different

[laurentbkk]

yellow , red , yellow , red , yellow , red .... same shit , different colors . same problems ....hope they wont block the airports this time or it will take a very long time to get the trust of the people again.

[Crushdepth]

Another coup warning from Jatuporn. Yawn.

[Kananga]

Thai Intelligence agency?

[sjjmmi]

WOW Water melon group up next Amazing thailand

[roxnadz]

Well, if they can hold off till Tuesday and wrap it up by November, then I'm good.

[whybother]

Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok.

Didn't the red shirts / PTP make a big fuss about protesters being stopped in 2010?

Now they're doing it themselves.

Sent from my shoe phone

[phl]

Here we go again, the elite yellowshirts are about to plunge Thailand into kaos again. What is it with these people?

You mean here we go again the PTP and their mighty leader are trying to break the law again? and getting caught doing so?

What is it with the people who keep posting while being very uninformed

[OzMick]

"Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok."

On what basis? Is it illegal to hold a point of view? Or travel to the capital to express that point of view? Has a SoE been declared?

[Crushdepth]

Here we go again, the elite yellowshirts are about to plunge Thailand into kaos again. What is it with these people?

You mean here we go again the PTP and their mighty leader are trying to break the law again? and getting caught doing so?

What is it with the people who keep posting while being very uninformed

Ignorance and red necks go hand in hand. A lot of these people weren't here when Great Leader was in charge and think they are defending democracy.

[Thaddeus]

"Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok."

On what basis? Is it illegal to hold a point of view? Or travel to the capital to express that point of view? Has a SoE been declared?

It is fairly obvious, freedom of speech and the freedom of peaceful protest is not allowed if it doesn't toe one party's line.

[w11guy]

"Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok."

On what basis? Is it illegal to hold a point of view? Or travel to the capital to express that point of view? Has a SoE been declared?

This also happens in the UK. Demonstrators are often prevented from travelling. And the police in the UK have been given powers to enter homes and take down political posters near the Olympics. So even in the UK you're not allowed to have a political point of view even in your own home.

[OzMick]

"Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok."

On what basis? Is it illegal to hold a point of view? Or travel to the capital to express that point of view? Has a SoE been declared?

This also happens in the UK. Demonstrators are often prevented from travelling. And the police in the UK have been given powers to enter homes and take down political posters near the Olympics. So even in the UK you're not allowed to have a political point of view even in your own home.

The "Little Johnny does it too." didn't work with my mum, doesn't work with me. If police actions in the UK offend you, complain there. Thai police illegal actions offend me, I am complaining here.

[phiphidon]

defacto leader Thaksin Shinawatra

Or to put it another way, "dangerous fleeing criminal Thaksin Shinawatra".

measures that would move the country forward to untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill.

And there you have the central problem. Bills are supposed to promote unity and prosperity for the citizenry, or to augment and improve existing legislation for the benefit of the electorate.

Before Yingluck started this bill process, Thailand was not seeing demonstrations or threats of coup and did not have police and James Bond on standby. Yingluck *knew* the chaos that would accompany this bill, the potential loss of life, the unbalancing of society yet again, but she went through with it anyway. How completely self-interested she truly is, to cause all these problems just to exonerate her guilty criminal brother. Has she no shame?

She arrived in this PM job and could have just worked through policies for Thailand, and worked hard by being at the centre of political debate and policy-augmentation, and seen Thailand grow and prosper peacefully without coups and battles and sonic-cannons and talk of dead demonstrators. She chose to bring this bill through, knowing it would unbalance an already fragile developing nation & lead to further division and Thai against Thai.

She had a mandate and could have used it for a genuine unity government - listening to all sides and not making any unpopular personal-interest bills, but instead it is Yingluck Shinawatra who has created the very chaos that the intelligence agencies are now promising to "untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill". That line from the OP should read - "ongoing political conflicts coming with Yingluck Shinawatra" since she brought it in her portfolio in 2011 & has done nothing but try to implement it since.

You may want to reflect on the fact Yingluck is not responsible for this "reconcilliation bill". Former coup maker and Matubhum party leader General Sonthi Boonyaglin is the originator of the bill.

[OzMick]

You may want to reflect on the fact Yingluck is not responsible for this "reconcilliation bill". Former coup maker and Matubhum party leader General Sonthi Boonyaglin is the originator of the bill.

Correct - she hasn't even been near parliament for at least 6 months. However there are 4 bills for consideration, some of which were proposed by PTP members, and she is supposedly the leader of that party. Remember "The buck stops here"?

[steelepulse]

Thai Intelligence Agencies

April 1st? Oxymoron?

[ginjag]

If Yingluck has hardly set foot in parliament in 6 months, then she cannot be deemed to be in charge, the matter is known worldwide and is a joke. If the woman cannot fulfill her duties she should have to go, the opening of new malls and visits abroad many can be done with royals and other VIP M.Ps. Likewise in Democratic countries she should show a balance, she is clearly not do ing that.

[phl]

If Yingluck has hardly set foot in parliament in 6 months, then she cannot be deemed to be in charge, the matter is known worldwide and is a joke. If the woman cannot fulfill her duties she should have to go, the opening of new malls and visits abroad many can be done with royals and other VIP M.Ps. Likewise in Democratic countries she should show a balance, she is clearly not do ing that.

she is a woman, she does not want to miss out on spring sales abroad

[David006]

Anyone interested on a another take on things Thai.......google Thai intelligence news....

[Yunla]

You may want to reflect on the fact Yingluck is not responsible for this "reconcilliation bill". Former coup maker and Matubhum party leader General Sonthi Boonyaglin is the originator of the bill.

Have you never heard the phrase "don't shoot the messenger." His involvement in the bill was exclusively for the purpose of delivering the bad news to the populace and he wasn't wearing a big sunshine grin when he did so either. I have no idea what behind-the-scenes scammery went on to get him involved as sacrifical goat and neither do you.

His involvement provided people like yourself with the type of comment you posted above. Its just a distancing action. To think Yingluck would have the courage or integrity to put forward such a contentious bill herself is laughable. She is too hi-so to get her hands dirty and also it would mean she had to actually spend time in parliament with the normal people.

PTP and herself have however been talking about this amnesty bill for months before Sonthi was pushed into the picture to deliver the bad news to the electorate. She was even on Bloomberg TV this last few days saying "everybody must accept this bill". Do you really think Yingluck & PTP had no involvement in the germination and development of the entire 'amnesty for Thaksin' section of the bill, which is the part that is causing so much division among the populace.

Edited June 2, 2012 by Yunla

[ginjag]

Attention !! 2 persons known very well to me are army personnel, their duties are domestic to the boss in BKK. They were never given formal training, and are used for their computor skills, English, Cooking etc.

I want to inform you they are now on emergency-crash course training with arms, as of yesterday. They are reluctant to say too much, but know that thier main function will be to stop the goverment abusing it's power. Thaksin did it, that's why we are in the state that were in. Before anyone uses Abhisit as a kicking post, he was voted out, NOT KICKED OUT. SOMEONE has to stop these dictators from abusing the country. Like it or lump it.

[phl]

Attention !! 2 persons known very well to me are army personnel, their duties are domestic to the boss in BKK. They were never given formal training, and are used for their computor skills, English, Cooking etc.

I want to inform you they are now on emergency-crash course training with arms, as of yesterday. They are reluctant to say too much, but know that thier main function will be to stop the goverment abusing it's power. Thaksin did it, that's why we are in the state that were in. Before anyone uses Abhisit as a kicking post, he was voted out, NOT KICKED OUT. SOMEONE has to stop these dictators from abusing the country. Like it or lump it.

if you serious-its little worrying to be honest(referring to army personnel, not the rest of your post, with which i agree 100%)

if you joking- its also worrying

Edited June 2, 2012 by phl

[ginjag]

Phl, what I said is worrying, but i'm afraid true, maybe some would say it's normal, I say not normal as for 6 months they have never done training, as I say only domestic to the boss.

[otherstuff1957]

^ Hmm, in another thread someone mentioned police being recalled to duty and mobilised. A battle between police and the army would be very very bad for this country.

[OzMick]

^ Hmm, in another thread someone mentioned police being recalled to duty and mobilised. A battle between police and the army would be very very bad for this country.

At the very least, it would seriously interfere with the collection of tea-money. Whether a huge reduction in the size of the BIB would lead to an increase or decrease in criminal activity is a matter for conjecture.

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ” Vladimir Lenin

While true, the statement loses validity when an army with much better guns arrives on the scene.

[phl]

^ Hmm, in another thread someone mentioned police being recalled to duty and mobilised. A battle between police and the army would be very very bad for this country.

At the very least, it would seriously interfere with the collection of tea-money. Whether a huge reduction in the size of the BIB would lead to an increase or decrease in criminal activity is a matter for conjecture.

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. ” Vladimir Lenin

While true, the statement loses validity when an army with much better guns arrives on the scene.

i do not believe army will have a conflict with police. I believe police has been mobilized to "try" to deal with the situation and avoid having army's involvement for obvious reasons