Thai Intelligence Agencies Put On Alert

[swillowbee]

... the positioning of the Royal Thai Army (RTA) is an indication of their own intelligence analysis ... the two following articles in the Asia Times Online make reading between the lines of Thai media reports unnecessary.

... what makes these reports particularly interesting are the authors ... both retired US military officers ... both specialists on Southeast Asia ... both graduates of the Thai's own Royal Thai Army's Command and General Staff College ... their ability to analyze the RTA's motives, and their access to their RTA cousins gives them resources and credibility that might be unique in the media.

... I've seen this reported nowhere else ... this stuff is really quite revealing of what the RTA is doing ... and thinking:

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE11Ae03.html

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE25Ae01.html

[ratcatcher]

"Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok."

On what basis? Is it illegal to hold a point of view? Or travel to the capital to express that point of view? Has a SoE been declared?

This also happens in the UK. Demonstrators are often prevented from travelling. And the police in the UK have been given powers to enter homes and take down political posters near the Olympics. So even in the UK you're not allowed to have a political point of view even in your own home.

The "Little Johnny does it too." didn't work with my mum, doesn't work with me. If police actions in the UK offend you, complain there. Thai police illegal actions offend me, I am complaining here.

"Police state"

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A police state is one in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.

The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state.^[3]

^{Not there yet folks BUT we are working on it.................really.}

^{The U.K. is a bit further ahead I'd say.}

[Scott]

... the positioning of the Royal Thai Army (RTA) is an indication of their own intelligence analysis ... the two following articles in the Asia Times Online make reading between the lines of Thai media reports unnecessary.

... what makes these reports particularly interesting are the authors ... both retired US military officers ... both specialists on Southeast Asia ... both graduates of the Thai's own Royal Thai Army's Command and General Staff College ... their ability to analyze the RTA's motives, and their access to their RTA cousins gives them resources and credibility that might be unique in the media.

... I've seen this reported nowhere else ... this stuff is really quite revealing of what the RTA is doing ... and thinking:

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE11Ae03.html

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE25Ae01.html

Thanks for those links. Some very interesting reading. Quite insightful.

[swillowbee]

... the positioning of the Royal Thai Army (RTA) is an indication of their own intelligence analysis ... the two following articles in the Asia Times Online make reading between the lines of Thai media reports unnecessary.

... what makes these reports particularly interesting are the authors ... both retired US military officers ... both specialists on Southeast Asia ... both graduates of the Thai's own Royal Thai Army's Command and General Staff College ... their ability to analyze the RTA's motives, and their access to their RTA cousins gives them resources and credibility that might be unique in the media.

... I've seen this reported nowhere else ... this stuff is really quite revealing of what the RTA is doing ... and thinking:

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE11Ae03.html

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE25Ae01.html

Thanks for those links. Some very interesting reading. Quite insightful.

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... among a number of revealing movements, I found this excerpt from the first report particularly interesting:

"At the same time, the RTA [Royal Thai Army] is quietly expanding its force structure. In a program approved several years ago, the RTA has started to activate three

new combat divisions, two of which are to be situated in Thaksin's geographical stronghold

. The new 7th Infantry Division has begun forming in the country's north under the 3rd Army Region, with a new headquarters located at Mae Rim on the eastern side of Chiang Mai city.

In northeastern Thailand, in the 2nd Army Region, the new 3rd Cavalry Division is being activated with its headquarters in Khon Kaen. While neither of these two divisions is fully formed yet,

both have major combat elements already assigned and would be capable of deploying several thousand soldiers in the event of an emergency

."

[Crushdepth]

defacto leader Thaksin Shinawatra

Or to put it another way, "dangerous fleeing criminal Thaksin Shinawatra".

measures that would move the country forward to untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill.

And there you have the central problem. Bills are supposed to promote unity and prosperity for the citizenry, or to augment and improve existing legislation for the benefit of the electorate.

Before Yingluck started this bill process, Thailand was not seeing demonstrations or threats of coup and did not have police and James Bond on standby. Yingluck *knew* the chaos that would accompany this bill, the potential loss of life, the unbalancing of society yet again, but she went through with it anyway. How completely self-interested she truly is, to cause all these problems just to exonerate her guilty criminal brother. Has she no shame?

She arrived in this PM job and could have just worked through policies for Thailand, and worked hard by being at the centre of political debate and policy-augmentation, and seen Thailand grow and prosper peacefully without coups and battles and sonic-cannons and talk of dead demonstrators. She chose to bring this bill through, knowing it would unbalance an already fragile developing nation & lead to further division and Thai against Thai.

She had a mandate and could have used it for a genuine unity government - listening to all sides and not making any unpopular personal-interest bills, but instead it is Yingluck Shinawatra who has created the very chaos that the intelligence agencies are now promising to "untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill". That line from the OP should read - "ongoing political conflicts coming with Yingluck Shinawatra" since she brought it in her portfolio in 2011 & has done nothing but try to implement it since.

You may want to reflect on the fact Yingluck is not responsible for this "reconcilliation bill". Former coup maker and Matubhum party leader General Sonthi Boonyaglin is the originator of the bill.

Well obviously, it must be an evil coupist plot then. Oppose!

[Thaddeus]

defacto leader Thaksin Shinawatra

Or to put it another way, "dangerous fleeing criminal Thaksin Shinawatra".

measures that would move the country forward to untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill.

And there you have the central problem. Bills are supposed to promote unity and prosperity for the citizenry, or to augment and improve existing legislation for the benefit of the electorate.

Before Yingluck started this bill process, Thailand was not seeing demonstrations or threats of coup and did not have police and James Bond on standby. Yingluck *knew* the chaos that would accompany this bill, the potential loss of life, the unbalancing of society yet again, but she went through with it anyway. How completely self-interested she truly is, to cause all these problems just to exonerate her guilty criminal brother. Has she no shame?

She arrived in this PM job and could have just worked through policies for Thailand, and worked hard by being at the centre of political debate and policy-augmentation, and seen Thailand grow and prosper peacefully without coups and battles and sonic-cannons and talk of dead demonstrators. She chose to bring this bill through, knowing it would unbalance an already fragile developing nation & lead to further division and Thai against Thai.

She had a mandate and could have used it for a genuine unity government - listening to all sides and not making any unpopular personal-interest bills, but instead it is Yingluck Shinawatra who has created the very chaos that the intelligence agencies are now promising to "untangle the ongoing political conflicts coming with the bill". That line from the OP should read - "ongoing political conflicts coming with Yingluck Shinawatra" since she brought it in her portfolio in 2011 & has done nothing but try to implement it since.

You may want to reflect on the fact Yingluck is not responsible for this "reconcilliation bill". Former coup maker and Matubhum party leader General Sonthi Boonyaglin is the originator of the bill.

You, may want to reflect on the fact that you are being suckered, and when 48% of the 75% that could be bothered to turn out to vote, realise the same thing, then, and only then will this country have peace, until that time, this circus that is controlled by the clowns will just carry on as normal.

[Skywalker69]

... the positioning of the Royal Thai Army (RTA) is an indication of their own intelligence analysis ... the two following articles in the Asia Times Online make reading between the lines of Thai media reports unnecessary.

... what makes these reports particularly interesting are the authors ... both retired US military officers ... both specialists on Southeast Asia ... both graduates of the Thai's own Royal Thai Army's Command and General Staff College ... their ability to analyze the RTA's motives, and their access to their RTA cousins gives them resources and credibility that might be unique in the media.

... I've seen this reported nowhere else ... this stuff is really quite revealing of what the RTA is doing ... and thinking:

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE11Ae03.html

http://www.atimes.co...a/NE25Ae01.html

Thanks for those links. Some very interesting reading. Quite insightful.

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[waza]

BANGKOK: -- All 12 military, civilian and police intelligence (sic) agencies have been ordered to monitor an ongoing political rally against a Pheu Thai Party attempt to debate a bill in favour of defacto leader Thaksin Shinawatra, according to a directive from Deputy Prime Minister Yuthasak Sasiprapha signed yesterday...........Thawat Bunfueng, said Yingluck Shinawatra was not worried about the PAD rally, because the crowd was small, and crowdcontrol police had been put on alert for emergency deployment. Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok.

Hmmm why are these measures bring taken now? Why werent they also taken against the redshirts when they recently rallied? I get the feeling the PTP government doesnt represent all the Thai people, just the ones they like.

Edited June 4, 2012 by waza

[metisdead]

Some more posts with humorous references to the term "Thai intelligence" have been removed. Please stay on the topic.

[samsiam]

Anyone know where the thai intelligence agency is located ??

[pakorn7]

Anyone know where the thai intelligence agency is located ??

Yes I do, and it is not in Bangkok.

[Buchholz]

Anyone know where the thai intelligence agency is located ??

321 Ratchadamnoen Nok Rd., Dusit, 10300, Bangkok

Phone. 66 0-2281-7100

http://www.nia.go.th/niaweb/default.asp

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Edited June 5, 2012 by Buchholz

[OzMick]

Anyone know where the thai intelligence agency is located ??

321 Ratchadamnoen Nok Rd., Dusit, Dusit, 10300, Bangkok

Phone. 66 0-2281-7100

Entrance via the telephone booth on the corner?

[samsiam]

So which defcom number would they be on now ??

[h90]

define UNITY?

release all political prisoners since 2549

clause in bill TS can come back but must go to jail and he must serve his punishment

PROBLEM SORTED

BGIVE ME THE PM JOB

define "political prisoners"....everyone corrupt will see himself als political prisoner.

Are these that burned down houses political prisoners?

[Time Traveller]

Let me think. Army guy introduces the new bill granting amnesty. People don't like it. Army decides that agencies need to be on "high alert". Does it even matter wat

Attention !! 2 persons known very well to me are army personnel, their duties are domestic to the boss in BKK. They were never given formal training, and are used for their computor skills, English, Cooking etc.

I want to inform you they are now on emergency-crash course training with arms, as of yesterday. They are reluctant to say too much, but know that thier main function will be to stop the goverment abusing it's power. Thaksin did it, that's why we are in the state that were in. Before anyone uses Abhisit as a kicking post, he was voted out, NOT KICKED OUT. SOMEONE has to stop these dictators from abusing the country. Like it or lump it.

Can't quite understand who you are referring to. Do you mean the dictator is Thaksin or the Army?

[TomTao]

"Police checkpoints in the provinces have been instructed to stop proPAD, or antiPheu Thai caravans of supporters from entering Bangkok."

On what basis? Is it illegal to hold a point of view? Or travel to the capital to express that point of view? Has a SoE been declared?

The reds are simply trying to silence any group that does not simply move over and let the reds billdoze through their agenda, they are the reds, everywhere a red movement has been in power they have moved to silence any group or individual that does not agree with what the reds want to do, and reds always do what they want.

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