Buchholz Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Red Shirt Lawyer Winyat Chartmontree today made a new request for bail for Red Shirt Leader and Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister Dokjik today. He offered 600,000 Baht as bail collateral. Additionally Pheu Thai Party MP and Justice Minister Justice Minister Pracha Promnok and former banned Thai Rak Thai Party MP and Deputy Interior Minister Sermsak Pongpanich signed the bail request as guarantors. Why is the justice minister going guarentor for a convicted criminal? Couldn't that be classed as a conflict of interest? Dokjik has not been convicted yet, but it still is certainly a bizarre situation where the Justice Minister is using his position to seek release for someone like Dokjik. It certainly ranks up there with taxpayer-funding used, again through the Justice Ministry, to provide monies to pay for the bail of indicted Red Shirts. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Yingluck should be forced to sack officials for imitation of bludgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister and Red Shirt Leader Jeng Dokjik was sentenced to two years in jail for delivering speech deemed insulting monarchy; Bt500,000 bail bond lodged. MCOT - Jan. 17, 2013 . Edited January 17, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Deputy Secretary-General in the Interior Minister and Red Shirt leader Jeng Dokjik was sentenced to two years in jail for delivering speech deemed insulting monarchy; Bt500,000 bail bond lodged. MCOT - Jan. 17, 2013 Uh-oh, here we go. Bail for lese majeste? That's a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think the PTP membership card has "Get Out of Jail Free" on the back. Hopefully, it is a very limited offer. It might even transform into a picture of that guy with the hat and whistle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Later news now is that the prison sentence was not suspended and that his lawyer had applied for bail (indicating it had not been granted thus far and that he had not been released). Additionally, fellow government official Deputy Commerce Minister and fellow Red Shirt Leader Nattawut Saikua had offered his position as a further guarantor for Dokjik's bail application if the court deemed the half a million baht cash was insufficient. , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 If he gets bail for Lese Majeste it will set a precident! You can get bail for murder even if you have been given the Death sentence, but you can't get bail for Lese Majeste. Nattawut needs to learn when to ditch the deadwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister and Red Shirt Leader Jeng Dokjik (in red-striped tie) enters court, followed by Red Shirt Leader Thida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ballpoint Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 If he gets bail for Lese Majeste it will set a precident! You can get bail for murder even if you have been given the Death sentence, but you can't get bail for Lese Majeste. Nattawut needs to learn when to ditch the deadwood. Come on, expecting him to saw his own head off is asking a bit much. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pimay1 Posted January 17, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Deputy Secretary-General to the Interior Minister and Red Shirt Leader Jeng Dokjik (in red-striped tie) enters court, followed by Red Shirt Leader Thida. Well if I ever go to court in this country you can bet your bottom satang Thida is is person I would want by my side..........that is if I wanted to get the book thrown at me. I can just imagine the judges thoughts when they see this idiot enter the court room.Seeing Thida's face gives meaning to the statement "there are advantages in being blind". Edited January 17, 2013 by Pimay1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagwan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Quote from OP '"Since Yingluck has an image as a family woman, she should come out to protect judges and their families and dismiss Yotwarit,'' he said. Yeah, but what a family!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thait Spot Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Quote from OP '"Since Yingluck has an image as a family woman, she should come out to protect judges and their families and dismiss Yotwarit,'' he said.Yeah, but what a family!!! An unwed family.... Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Will PM Yingluck sack the government official now? http://www.manager.co.th/Crime/ViewNews.aspx?NewsID=9560000006530 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby nz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 This lies squarely on the PM, she picked these criminals and is responsible for their actions. Yep, she and her Cabinet did. Appropriately, Chalerm's non-Red Shirt son is included in the pickings. The Cabinet on Tuesday approved a list of political office holders, including some 20 Vice-Ministers and a number of Ministerial Secretaries and Advisers. Several core members and guards of the red-shirt movement received key appointments. Aree Krainara, Head Guard of the red shirts, is now Secretary-General to Interior Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit. Red leader Yoswaris "Jeng Dokjik" Chuklom is a Deputy Secretary-General in the Interior Ministry. Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung's son, Wan, is a Deputy Secretary-General in the Transport Ministry. Among the Vice-Ministers are red-shirt leader Visa Kanthap, ex-bureaucrat Prapat Chongsanguan and Pheu Thai party-list candidate Surachai Baochanya. -- The Nation 2011-08-30 Time to face the music as the piper has already been paid. Yotwarit, better known as "Jen Dokjik", did not deserve to be paid a salary from taxpayers' money . Vice-Ministers would be an apprpriate title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Later news now is that the prison sentence was not suspended and that his lawyer had applied for bail (indicating it had not been granted thus far and that he had not been released). Additionally, fellow government official Deputy Commerce Minister and fellow Red Shirt Leader Nattawut Saikua has offered his position as a further guarantor for Dokjik's bail application if the court deemed the half a million baht cash was insufficient. And now, there's no need for Pheu Thai Party MP and Red Shirt Leader Natthawut to put his position in Yingluck's Cabinet on the line as the criminal court has ruled this afternoon to allow Red Shirt Leader and government official Dokjik to be released on bail for 500,000 baht while he appeals his conviction. . Edited January 17, 2013 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Quite unbelievable ! But why am i neither shocked nor surprised! Edited January 17, 2013 by GentlemanJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparklingCascades Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 If Thailand sacks officials for intimidating judges there will not be a lot of govt.officials left. Besides, going by community banter many judges in Thailand actually enjoy being er...intimidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Criminal Court, accepting Bt500,000 bail bond, agrees to temporarily release Red Shirt leader Jeng Dokjik during appeal process; says subject is unlikely to flee from prosecution http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=50f7aead150ba0cc5a0001d4#.UPfFzZi0KSo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yesterday, Red Shirt Leader Dokjik was convicted of violating Article 112 of the Penal Code and also Sections 2, 8, and 12 of the Constitution. Section 2. Thailand adopts a democratic regime of government with the King as Head of State. Section 8. The King shall be enthroned in a position of revered worship and shall not be violated. No person shall expose the King to any sort of accusation or action. Section 12. The King selects and appoints qualified persons to be the President of the Privy Council and not more than eighteen Privy Councilors to constitute the Privy Council. The Privy Council has the duty to render such advice to the King on all matters pertaining to His functions as He may consult, and has other duties as prescribed in this Constitution. http://www.asianlii....7/1.html#C06P02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Jeng Dokjik released on bail BANGKOK, 18 January 2013 (NNT) - The Criminal Court has accepted a 500,000-baht bond put up by Jeng Dokjik or Yoswaris Chuklomand, a leader of the red-shirts, and granted him temporary release on bail. The court ruled that Jeng Dokjik was guilty of lese majeste in the speech he gave during a United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship rally on March 29th, 2010. Jeng Dokjik’s original sentence was a 3-year imprisonment, without suspension, but was reduced to 2 years because of his cooperative testimony. However, his lawyer put up 500,000 baht to secure his temporary release, which was accepted by the court, reasoning that the red-shirt leader was unlikely to escape prosecution. -- NNT 2013-01-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Jeng Dokjik released on bail BANGKOK, 18 January 2013 (NNT) - The Criminal Court has accepted a 500,000-baht bond put up by Jeng Dokjik or Yoswaris Chuklomand, a leader of the red-shirts, and granted him temporary release on bail. The court ruled that Jeng Dokjik was guilty of lese majeste in the speech he gave during a United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship rally on March 29th, 2010. Jeng Dokjik’s original sentence was a 3-year imprisonment, without suspension, but was reduced to 2 years because of his cooperative testimony. However, his lawyer put up 500,000 baht to secure his temporary release, which was accepted by the court, reasoning that the red-shirt leader was unlikely to escape prosecution. -- NNT 2013-01-18 What does temporary release mean? When will he go back to jail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 "his cooperative testimony" ??? I thought that you would get a sentence reduction for pleading guilty. Perhaps he wishes to appeal the severity of the sentence because as a "government official" he is an upstanding citizen, ignoring the fact that the position was a reward for his criminal actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Jeng Dokjik released on bail However, his lawyer put up 500,000 baht to secure his temporary release, which was accepted by the court, reasoning that the red-shirt leader was unlikely to escape prosecution. What does temporary release mean? When will he go back to jail? a. When he next incites others to make threatening calls and visits to judges' homes to intimidate them and their families. b. When his appeal is heard in 2019 and his conviction is upheld (provided he's not been made an Pheu Thai Party MP with parliamentary immunity during the interim). . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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