thaigerd Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Just wanna know what you are all thinking about eating chicken meat.
taxexile Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 so long as the chicken has been properly cooked there is no danger, although considering the way my boiled egg was coughing this morning i may have a re-think on this.
BlackJack Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 the chicken at the Beer Garden soi 7 is always well done however i wouldnt eat it as one never knows does one
Rinrada Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 The trouble that I have always found in the Far East,Africa,South America etc..ie all hot countries is that they (the natives)prefer to eat their bloody food semi cooked/cold.I for one do not like and will not eat cold food ..apart from beer.(of course) There has been many times is nice wee back st eating houses in Klong Toey,Sam prat,Hanoi,P.Pehn that I have taking the semi raw offering back to the kitchen and cooked it myself....crazy non native M.P.Rai. What Tak needs to do is order up 50 million microwave ovens and show his people how to use them. Chicken and Chips,Beef and rice,pork and beans,Penguin and noodles....all safe when cooked properly
pal78 Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 What Tak needs to do is order up 50 million microwave ovens and show his people how to use them.Chicken and Chips,Beef and rice,pork and beans,Penguin and noodles....all safe when cooked properly Microwave ovens might not be the answer: http:www.relfe.com/microwave.html I do agree that it's important that food is cooked properly though. But apparently once the chicken is cooked it is zero risk of passing on the flu. Actually the WHO went as far as to say the risk is tiny to zero even for those preparing the raw meat for cooking. Just don't go watching the fighting chickens and allow it to breath in your general direction and you'll probably be ok.
Sunshine Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 I had chicken for lunch today without even thinking about bird flu. Half way through my meal I remembered what I had heard on the news last night and suddenly lost my appetite.
Axel Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Guess, I have to visit my favourite Japanese restaurant to find out how sales of chicken sashimi (a real japanese delicacy) is coming on.
sabaijai Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 Avian flu is a respiratoty virus, not enteric so I don't see how it's even possible to get it from eating chicken. Or at least that's what I've read. The Thais that have died so far have all been member of chicken farming families, have they not?
the gentleman Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 masaman chicken for dinner - so I have just been informed
Dove Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 WHO has decalred that pigs could also carry the virus. So why should we feed our dogs with chicken as suggested in the poll. The reason being that if pigs could act as 'mixing vessels' for emergence of new and virulent strain as warned a WHO adviser why not dogs?
BlackJack Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 I THINK the big issue is that the virus is mutating and "could" start to spread like a common cold and by human to human contact the World then has a big problem - maybe the Pharmaceutical companies will now move their research back into antibitotics (long neglected) and antivirus drugs we live we learn
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 28, 2004 Posted January 28, 2004 She found out that the Gentleman was well insured.
sabaijai Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 The level of uninformed panic is delicious. According to the Center for Disease Control and the FAO, the virus isn't viable in dead chickens so by the time it reaches your plate there's no chance of getting the virus. Only people who come into direct contact live chickens ill with the virus are at risk. As blackjack says, the real issue is whether the virus mutates to affect human-to-human transmission. Then it might become as dangerous as other flus, which claims hundreds of times as many human victims as avian flu has. At this time CDC and WHO have not issued any travel alerts or advisories for the region in response to the H5N1 outbreak. However, travelers to countries in Asia with documented H5N1 outbreaks are advised to avoid poultry farms, contact with animals in live food markets and any surfaces that appear to be contaminated with feces from poultry or other animals.http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/index.htm
the gentleman Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 She found out that the Gentleman was well insured. - the maid is on her last legs and been taken out of the will
BlackJack Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 i am not an alarmist however some of these WHO and other alerts are confusing a virus needs a living host cell to survive however a bacteria can live outside of the host ie on a surface so why are the alerts referring to both live animal and contaminated surfaces - this is indicating that it "could" be transmitted either way are we getting the whole truth and nothing but the truth or are we being spared the public will panic syndrome again if its a virus once the animal or bird is dead then it should be OK to eat it i think? besides the som tam lady assured me that if you eat som tam, BBQ chicken, Kow neow TOGETHER then you will not get bird flu virus believe it or not
pongster303 Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 you can eat cooked chicken, that s fine.... so why ve they been killing chooks and bury them then?? why don't they just cook them with proper temperature and give it to the poors??? not being sarcastic or anything??? i am just really curious.. i think i will call the official and ask, if i don't get an answer here..!!!
pal78 Posted January 29, 2004 Posted January 29, 2004 you can eat cooked chicken, that s fine....so why ve they been killing chooks and bury them then?? why don't they just cook them with proper temperature and give it to the poors??? not being sarcastic or anything??? i am just really curious.. i think i will call the official and ask, if i don't get an answer here..!!! I agree with you. That should be fine. As a matter of fact the same could have been done with all the foot and mouth cattle in the UK and Ireland. Actually if they had left them alone they probably would have recovered. I think that they are killing over 10,000,000 birds to stop the spread, and because people are so scared and jumpy in the world today it's better to bury it as a statement that you are serious about the problem, and to help make up for the fact that you lied to the world previously. Having said that it's an awful shame to destroy all that good chicken meat. I mean, the US can send their low grade GM Maze to aid African nations in need, why not send them a bunch of flu-ridden chickens! Another issue is that this has been a problem since November and any of the chicken currently on the shelves in European and Japanese stores could have come from Thailand, and have the flu virus. So that should all be dumped too. In Holland chicken from Thailand and ROTW is relabelled as Dutch chicken anyway, so how do we really know? Just cook and eat, yummy chicken.
sabaijai Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 Blackjack, the WHO have not issued any alerts whatsoever about eating chicken, in fact their website explicity states that the virus has never been contacted from eating dead chickens, and that the only known risk comes from handly live poutry.
BlackJack Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 see DOVES reference to WHO i was replying with that in mind now press releases are referring to bird shit carrying the infection RUN FOR COVER - think SILOM at DUSK
chinajohn Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 It is good that the Goverment have admited there mistake,and that they will compensate the chicken farmers,you might be able to buy a chicken for 100 bht but for sure you wont get an Ostrich,for that money. There mistake and compensation is not going cover 3years of work in our case.
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 It is good that the Goverment have admited there mistake,and that they will compensate the chicken farmers,you might be able to buy a chicken for 100 bht but for sure you wont get an Ostrich,for that money. There mistake and compensation is not going cover 3years of work in our case. What is your case John ?
DSBones Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 There is absolutely..squawk..nothing..cluck-cluck...wrong with eating..squawk,cluck-cluck,squawk..chicken. Some of my best friends are cows!! Cock a-doodle-dooooooooo!!!!
mtnthai Posted January 30, 2004 Posted January 30, 2004 Yes, I am eating chicken and I think some people are eating crow. Here is a link that should be reliable and helpful to understand the "risk" of eating chicken. http://my.webmd.com/content/article/81/96857.htm Excerpt below: How Do Humans Get Bird Flu? Contact with bird droppings is the most likely way people catch bird flu. People don't catch the virus from eating cooked chicken or eggs. Bird flu tends to be an intestinal disease spread through feces. Human flu tends to be a respiratory disease spread by droplets. The only way a bird flu virus can spread easily from human to human is if the bird flu changes by picking up some genes from a human flu virus.
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