Somtamnication Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 I need to translate a business card / poster. Will buy lunch or dinner!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawapower Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) I have Russian next door, any good? Edited June 26, 2012 by kawapower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britpop Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 (edited) , for that translation it's a packet of crisp's, checkout some of the free English to Russian translators on the net, but you still need a Russian to double check a word proofing, at least it allows you to get your artwork , graphics and wording in place.</p> Edited June 26, 2012 by LivinginKata English only please as per forum rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyb Posted June 26, 2012 Share Posted June 26, 2012 Somtamnication, I know a Russian to English translator who is very good. PM me for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 I have google translated it already. But it needs reviewed. Amy, will pm now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 26, 2012 Author Share Posted June 26, 2012 I have Russian next door, any good? Sure, if you would like to ask them, that would be great. PM me and I will give you my mobi. Two .pub files that need double checking, corrected and culturally correct. (For example, it is important to have your univ. degree on the card, etc etc). Tks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elefteros Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 I can review your translation...free no charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweer Posted June 27, 2012 Share Posted June 27, 2012 If it is actual, I can help you 4 free. I am native speaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 Elfteros and Sweer, thanks very much. The .pub files have been reviewed already. If I need help again, hopefully you will allow me to contact you then. Spaciba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyByNights Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Nowadays “good” editors and writers whose specialty is foreign translation are extremely busy especially here in the LOS. The Russian translators on the net are pretty useless; such applications cannot convey the same message across as actual human form translation. It’s not the Russian language skills that matter so to speak either, but actually the familiarity with the English language and how to use it to begin with. This goes for all languages translated from English content. Unfortunately the Russian natives I personally know don’t have the time to take on certain jobs at the moment, and sometimes they just reject the work all together. Translations are not easy and they don’t come cheap, at least nice and neat ones’ don’t. The cost for proofreading documents alone usually costs a third to one half of what is charged for a regular document translation, and sometimes there is a minimum that has to be paid as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 28, 2012 Author Share Posted June 28, 2012 So I found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet01 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Doesn't have to be expensive if you know where to search. When I decided to get our menus translated into Russian last year I put an ad on Gumtree (UK) specifying the precise requirements of the job and requesting quotations. Received 15 responses from Russian nationals working/studying in the UK with varying prices. I settled on a Russian female working near my home city and after sending her a copy of our 22 page menu she emailed saying she would translate the menu for £40 (2000Bt). She did a great job so I paid her more as It was so cheap. If anyone wants to use her I still have her contact details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyByNights Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Always remember "You get what you pay for " Industry standards on average English to Russian translation: USD 0.04 - 0.1 (EUR 0.032 - 0.078) per source word English to Russian technical translation: USD 0.08 - 0.14 (EUR 0.062 - 0.11) per source word IMO most important is the adaption "An adaptation differs from a translation in that it seeks to capture the essence, meaning and message of an original text without being literal. The result is not a literal translation but nevertheless conveys the original meaning." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet01 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 When you say "You get what you pay for" are you suggesting that the only way to get a job done properly is by paying through the nose? If so I completely disagree with you. If not then what are you suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyByNights Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Yes most defiantly " You get what you pay for." This I say in regards to translations, nothing more. There is much more to a translation than just a translation. You have to consider the cost is also being determined by many factors such as language, size of document, complexity, deadlines, quality of the source text, formatting and the platforms being used, not to mention the proofreading and editing. Also translators who only focus on the transformation of words, without the consideration of cultural factors, are more likely to misunderstand the culture in the message which the client is trying to convey. Here are some infamous errors made by multinational corporations when translating brands or slogans abroad. The name Coca-Cola in China was first rendered as Ke-kou-ke-la. Unfortunately, the Coke company did not discover until after thousands of signs had been printed that the phrase means "bite the wax tadpole" or "female horse stuffed with wax" depending on the dialect. Things weren't much easier for Coke's arch-rival Pepsi. When they entered the Chinese market, the translation of their slogan "Pepsi Brings you Back to Life" was a little more literal than they intended. In Chinese, the slogan meant, "Pepsi Brings Your Ancestors Back from the Grave". In Italy, a campaign for Schweppes Tonic Water translated the name into Schweppes Toilet Water. When translated into Chinese, the Kentucky Fried Chicken slogan "finger-lickin' good" came out as "eat your fingers off". IMO if your content is on going to be on the web for example, thousands of people will be able to see it everyday, you better be damm sure your translations are on point. Don't skimp on a quality translations to save yourself a couple of bucks. You will regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet01 Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Well I definitely (not defiantly) "got what I paid for". A perfectly translated 2000 word menu for £40. Not simply by accepting the lowest quotation but speaking with the translator to ensure she was not only a native Russian speaker but also had an excellent grasp of the English language. That's the way to ensure quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyByNights Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyByNights Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 So where were we now, ah yes, "speaking with the translator to ensure she was not only a native Russian speaker but also had an excellent grasp of the English language." Ok that should make her good enough then. "2000 word menu for £40", that about 2 cents per word. That's amazing. It really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The OP has found his translator so we can close this topic up, thanks everybody for your input. //CLOSED// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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