Amazing how many Thai Visa poster's want to push their agenda onto your experiences, even going so far as to insult and tell you about your experiences.

Sad really.

If you want to believe that Thai female non prostitutes have never gone to Spicy to let their hair down and have fun when everywhere is closed, then knock yourself out, but perhaps try to not spout it as factual.

You've nailed it...........and the problem is that so many of the people that take that view are the sort that are, truly are, experts in every avenue of the sex trade in Thailand. They have been immersed in it so much they can't look at Thai women now without seeing a price tag hanging from them.

They don't realize how pathetic they are....................go back to the OP, the original video. Is the contention now that every single female walking down the street in Pattaya is a hooker? Every single one? If any of you think that, you need help. To me, that is the biggest single danger of Pattaya, you start to think that's real Thailand. Think that and your heading for the same kicking that guy got.

These are the same people that think that every single Thai woman married to a farang is an ex bar girl, except of course, their own. It's pathetic beyond words.

Spicey in CM is on about the same 'respectability' level as a BJ bar in Pattaya.

(But with a higher chance of a fatal stabbing)

I've known some Thai ladies that would have a dodgy night out ........ but not that dodgy.

Edited June 29, 201214 yr by TommoPhysicist

Man, you are so wrong.

The Londoner is that British pub on the corner of 33. I've been there. It's a respectable joint. It's not a known venue for hookers. Any hookers that are there are the GF's of saddos or farangs who are here on a sex vacation.

Same goes for Q bar.

Regular Thai girls do not go to known hooker joints.

I stand by what i wrote,

You have obviously never visited Q-bar if you are telling me there are no hookers there, they don't all stand outside shouting "hallo hansum man" you know. I would also add that there is a difference between "Known Hooker joints", and going to the "same bars as hookers".

regards

Man, you're wrong. Deal with it.

The Q-bar is not a known hooker venue. The hookers who are there are like the hookers at Hard Rock Cafe. They're supplemental.

My point is that regular girls will never go to a bar that is known for being a predominantly hooker joint.

Example. Regular girls don't go drinking at Nana Plaza.

Spicys in CM was a known hooker joint. Regular girls did not go there.

Most overseas guys don't know this because they're skyping with the DEKS who do go to these places.

Spicey in CM is on about the same 'respectability' level as a BJ bar in Pattaya.

(But with a higher chance of a fatal stabbing)

I've known some Thai ladies that would have a dodgy night out ........ but not that dodgy.

I hear you, dude. I'm guessing all these other overseas guys prefer to live in denial.

Talk to any regular Thai girl. Ask her if she goes dancing or drinking at Nana or Spicey.

Spicey in CM is on about the same 'respectability' level as a BJ bar in Pattaya.

(But with a higher chance of a fatal stabbing)

I've known some Thai ladies that would have a dodgy night out ........ but not that dodgy.

No it wasn't ( now closed down by the way )............you're going to the ridiculous now. Everyone familiar with Spicy knew it was the end of night joint, full of tourists, back packers, and plenty of the Loi Kroh division looking for their last trick. No one is arguing that.

You're showing yourself up Tommo, that's four members telling you that they know decent women went to Spicy, but in your mind we're all wrong, and you're right.

Mark my story as true, the guy that got his head kicked off him that night will never forget it, and there are dozens more like him. To walk into it thinking it was the equivalent of a bj bar shows to me that either you have never been to it, or that you are so focused and blinkered to your surroundings that it's dangerous and pitiful.

ps Tommo, don't be kidded, I saw, we saw, the Loi Kroh contingent in full peacock mode in their, and I saw / we saw the legions of old mongers having a go at them. The same mongers that sat in Loi Kroh all night and nursed a beer, then arranged to meet a girl there after hours so he would avoid the bar fine.

Sound familiar??

Spicey in CM is on about the same 'respectability' level as a BJ bar in Pattaya.

(But with a higher chance of a fatal stabbing)

I've known some Thai ladies that would have a dodgy night out ........ but not that dodgy.

I hear you, dude. I'm guessing all these other overseas guys prefer to live in denial.

Talk to any regular Thai girl. Ask her if she goes dancing or drinking at Nana or Spicey.

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You're showing yourself up Tommo, that's four members telling you that they know decent women went to Spicy, but in your mind we're all wrong, and you're right.

More likely 4 members trying to convince themselves the ladies they took/met there aren't/weren't hookers.

You're only a tourist, I can understand you not having a clue.

Ehm.......another assumption Tommo.......feel free to tell me about the dozens of women I lifted out of Spicy.

There were plenty, and |I mean plenty of people that went to Spicy for the dancing, they had to squeeze past all the sweaty old mongers salivating over the tattooed brigade to get to the dance floor.

ps. I'm not judging, just observing

You're showing yourself up Tommo, that's four members telling you that they know decent women went to Spicy, but in your mind we're all wrong, and you're right.

More likely 4 members trying to convince themselves the ladies they took/met there aren't/weren't hookers.

You're only a tourist, I can understand you not having a clue.

You are nothing more than a tourist if you have a 90 day reporting. You have a Visa but you still have to trudge down with your credentials and appease the authorities every 90 days.

However one glosses up the visa name, you still have to report.

When you have citizenship then its another matter!

Edited June 29, 201214 yr by edwinclapham

There were plenty, and |I mean plenty of people that went to Spicy for the dancing, they had to squeeze past all the sweaty old mongers salivating over the tattooed brigade to get to the dance floor.

You seem to be more of the 'monger' expert than I.

Just thinking back to my first night in Spicy (after it had changed it's name from Nice Illusion), pulled a nice waitress from a small restaurant behind Moon Muang. She didn't ask for any moneys for services provided the following day.

Odd that I'm told this would be impossible.

Just thinking back to my first night in Spicy (after it had changed it's name from Nice Illusion), pulled a nice waitress from a small restaurant behind Moon Muang. She didn't ask for any moneys for services provided the following day.

Odd that I'm told this would be impossible.

Who told you that? clever hookers play the long game (and pretend not to be hookers).

There were plenty, and |I mean plenty of people that went to Spicy for the dancing, they had to squeeze past all the sweaty old mongers salivating over the tattooed brigade to get to the dance floor.

You seem to be more of the 'monger' expert than I.

I'm an expert at spotting them.

If you wanted to use Spicy as a pick up joint you could, of course you could, it would be ridiculous to say otherwise.

If you wanted to use it for the dancing, again of course you could............you've been there, you will have seen hundreds of people go in for the dancing then leave.

If you wanted to use as at a place for your last drink, then great!!! I preferred Jacks Van though.

You could use Spicy for your own agenda, the only thing we are disagreeing on is your contention that every single woman in Spicy was a hooker. I don't agree, others don't agree, so why don't we just leave it at that??? It's a disagreement, not a fall out.

Edited June 29, 201214 yr by theblether

You could use Spicy for your own agenda, the only thing we are disagreeing on is your contention that every single woman in Spicy was a hooker. I don't agree, others don't agree, so why don't we just leave it at that??? It's a disagreement, not a fall out.

You missed out the 'Thai' part of the sentence.

Plenty of female tourists that don't have a clue the types they are mixing with .... I doubt any of them would be hookers.

You could use Spicy for your own agenda, the only thing we are disagreeing on is your contention that every single woman in Spicy was a hooker. I don't agree, others don't agree, so why don't we just leave it at that??? It's a disagreement, not a fall out.

You missed out the 'Thai' part of the sentence.

Plenty of female tourists that don't have a clue the types they are mixing with .... I doubt any of them would be hookers.

Sorry, I thought people would know I was talking about Thai women, me bad.

No excuse for groping but the people giving him a kicking are all BGs.

If we have to explain this to someone then they will never be able to understand it.

Amazing how many Thai Visa poster's want to push their agenda onto your experiences, even going so far as to insult and tell you about your experiences.

Sad really.

If you want to believe that Thai female non prostitutes have never gone to Spicy to let their hair down and have fun when everywhere is closed, then knock yourself out, but perhaps try to not spout it as factual.

You've nailed it...........and the problem is that so many of the people that take that view are the sort that are, truly are, experts in every avenue of the sex trade in Thailand. They have been immersed in it so much they can't look at Thai women now without seeing a price tag hanging from them.

They don't realize how pathetic they are....................go back to the OP, the original video. Is the contention now that every single female walking down the street in Pattaya is a hooker? Every single one? If any of you think that, you need help. To me, that is the biggest single danger of Pattaya, you start to think that's real Thailand. Think that and your heading for the same kicking that guy got.

These are the same people that think that every single Thai woman married to a farang is an ex bar girl, except of course, their own. It's pathetic beyond words.

The ignore function is a wonderful thing.

Just thinking back to my first night in Spicy (after it had changed it's name from Nice Illusion), pulled a nice waitress from a small restaurant behind Moon Muang. She didn't ask for any moneys for services provided the following day.

Odd that I'm told this would be impossible.

Who told you that? clever hookers play the long game (and pretend not to be hookers).

I'm sure it was all a ruse, and she had a clever hologram system in place within the restaurant so it only appeared that she worked there.

They're quite crafty like that.

Edited June 29, 201214 yr by siam cbr

Just thinking back to my first night in Spicy (after it had changed it's name from Nice Illusion), pulled a nice waitress from a small restaurant behind Moon Muang. She didn't ask for any moneys for services provided the following day.

Odd that I'm told this would be impossible.

Who told you that? clever hookers play the long game (and pretend not to be hookers).

I'm sure it was all a ruse, and she had a clever hologram system in place within the restaurant so it only appeared that she worked there.

They're quite crafty like that.

Brilliant!!

The Londoner is that British pub on the corner of 33. I've been there. It's a respectable joint. It's not a known venue for hookers. Any hookers that are there are the GF's of saddos or farangs who are here on a sex vacation.

Same goes for Q bar.

Regular Thai girls do not go to known hooker joints.

Dude there are so many free lance hookers that go to Q-bar. A lot of guys that go there don't like to admit it though. And there are some regular girls that go there too. It's one of those rare places in a bit of an in between zone. Some places in KSR are like that too, they have freelancers but some normal girls that just wander in because there are cute young farang there. I've only been to Spicy in CM once so I don't really know about that place

I'm sure it was all a ruse, and she had a clever hologram system in place within the restaurant so it only appeared that she worked there.

They're quite crafty like that.

So you think hookers never have regular jobs and work as prostitutes on the side.

I would say it was the other way round.

It's been 6 years since I have lived in Bangkok But Gulliver's used to get a mixed crowd. Still do? And how about Slim in RCA?

Edited June 29, 201214 yr by kerryk

It's really very simple, people who treat other human beings like property deserve everything they get. Even if the lady in question is a working girl she deserves the same consideration that any person is entitled to. Don't maul a woman in public, and only do so in private after she had clearly indicated that she finds such behavior acceptable.

Clearly not the Thai view, Thai people just don't think that way. So much for being very simple.

The Londoner is that British pub on the corner of 33. I've been there. It's a respectable joint. It's not a known venue for hookers. Any hookers that are there are the GF's of saddos or farangs who are here on a sex vacation.

Same goes for Q bar.

Regular Thai girls do not go to known hooker joints.

Dude there are so many free lance hookers that go to Q-bar. A lot of guys that go there don't like to admit it though. And there are some regular girls that go there too. It's one of those rare places in a bit of an in between zone. Some places in KSR are like that too, they have freelancers but some normal girls that just wander in because there are cute young farang there. I've only been to Spicy in CM once so I don't really know about that place

There is no doubt that Spicy was the last chance pick up joint, no doubt whatsoever. But it wasn't only that.

I used to go in, put a dent in the dance floor, then wander down to Jacks Van till the wee sma' hours. Great stuff.

It seems so many guys on here are spending a great deal of time trying to convince others that 'Thai-Women' and the locations they socialise fit within certain generalised guidelines.

Like us (Western Men), there is no fair generalisation - There is only a wide ranging spectrum.

I'm sure there are many 'naughty' places that some quite respectable people go to. To draw a definitive conclusion based on your own (one man's) experience and start quoting it as fact identifies how narrow minded and blinkered some may be.

In reality, hookers can and do end up everywhere in Thailand and infiltrate every walk of society, the 'good girls' as they have been described here also can end up in a gogo bar, having a look, having a little fun with their friends, or going to an after hours bar to 'carry on' without selling their body or chasing guys. There are no hard and fast social rules in Thailand and suggesting such only serves to identify narrow mindedness.

It's been 6 years since I have lived in Bangkok But Gulliver's used to get a mixed crowd. Still do? And how about Slim in RCA?

Both are still much the same.

It's been 6 years since I have lived in Bangkok But Gulliver's used to get a mixed crowd. Still do? And how about Slim in RCA?

Both are still much the same.

Good I like that. It means you can be wrong offering money to a Thai lady met in the above or be wrong not offering money to a Thai lady met at the above.

Edited June 29, 201214 yr by kerryk

happened to a good friend of mine.

met him in the local and he had TWO black eyes.

he told me the story......... he was queing up to get his unemployment cheque when he spied what he thought was his girlfriend in the queue ahead. he said her jeans and in turn her knickers were stuck in her ass cheeks and looked uncomfortable. the good guy that he was, he came up behind her and pulled them out of her butt crack. she turned around and he was mortified to find it was not his girl but a total stranger. she punched him straight in the eye.

that explains one black eye, I said, what about the other one.

well, on realising that it wsn't my girlfriend and I was totally in the wrong for pulling her knickers out of her ass cheeks, I promptly pushed them back up so as not to offend.

thats where the second black eye came from, he said.

I laughed long and hard and a little bit of pee leaked out...... good times...good times.

My Uncle was a green grocer and in that trade they have an unwritten rule:

Don`t squeeze the goods until you have paid for them.

Do not mess with Thai girls:

I'd love to take that little minx to bed for a week, she is hot as.

She's distinctly average.

My Uncle was a green grocer and in that trade they have an unwritten rule:

Don`t squeeze the goods until you have paid for them.

Do not mess with Thai girls:

I'd love to take that little minx to bed for a week, she is hot as.

She's distinctly average.

I hope you're not talking about the 12yo!

Man, you are so wrong.

The Londoner is that British pub on the corner of 33. I've been there. It's a respectable joint. It's not a known venue for hookers. Any hookers that are there are the GF's of saddos or farangs who are here on a sex vacation.

Same goes for Q bar.

Regular Thai girls do not go to known hooker joints.

No, you are so wrong. Q Bar is full of prostitutes. The clothes might look more expensive than those the girls at the lower end of the nightlife scene wear (think Shock 39, Climax amd Mixx etc) but as soon as Q Bar closes, it's into the ladies room where the slinky dress is replaced by hot pants/cut-downs/mini-skirts.

Same at places like Spasso at the Hyatt. The same girls you see there holding out for the 5,000 baht fee from the richer punters will be available for a tequila and a grand by the time they end up at the likes of Spicy or Swing between 4am and 9am.

And, yes, there are joints open that late.