I Now Realise That Something Is Missing In Life .......

[pattayadingo]

Even as a male, it's hard to take another farang who lives in Pattaya serious.

I have met and am friends with some very good guys here in Pattaya. Brits, Aussies, Americans and others. Some have been around for weeks, others for years, many are upstanding people. We can talk about most subjects and also have some great laughs. We watch sport and can talk about it without resorting to being bitchy about each other teams, politics, all manner of topics. That is one of the main things I do like about Pattaya.

So I disagree totally with your post on that score.

[pattayadingo]

I know lots of "good girls" and lots of bad girls and IMO "good girls" are over-rated.

Do you know any with whips, handcuffs and other similar items? If you do, send me the details quick

Some bad girls can be very very good, I cannot argue with that sentiment

[pattayadingo]

Yes Pattayadingo,there certainly are limitations to Thai/Farang Relationships,mostly Cultural and Language barriers,and even a different way of thinking,than your own Countries upbringing,which taught you lifes basic expectations.

In depth conversations in particular are out,and trying to go too deep,only creates frustration for both of the couple,one can never get all you desire from one person,the only answer is to have good mates and fill the gaps by talking to them on your level,regardless of the subject matter.

Long term,what was satisfactory in the early part of the relationship show up large gaping holes in later years.

One has to bend ones principals in later years, and realise their worth,as they are, and try to come to terms,with the deficiencies,and find other mentally satisfying outlets.

I have to admit that if it was not for the friends I have here I do not think there would be any hesitation about moving out at all. Good friends are hard to come by whereas finding a good woman is obviously not so easy here. With friends we can have varied discussions about most things and a few beers and laughs too. We can go to girlie bars too and have fun.

It seems to me that you should try to keep your friends as they tend to stick around longer but they also cannot give what a woman can and I certainly do not fancy waking up next to my friends on a morning and giving them a cuddle

[pattayadingo]

I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much.

We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good.

I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless.

I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem.

OP you could consider on-line dating.

As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open.

Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone

My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given.

Maybe time will tell

[pattayadingo]

I've been looking at Khon Kaen, Udon Thani and a few other places and they seem like good places to me. Bangkok is not my scene. Chiang Mai is out because of the smoke and smog times.

If you move, remember that you must never mention to anyone where you previously lived, show photos, or even say the name of that town out loud.

If you do, you will be labeled and nobody in your new town will ever forget it.

I Have to agree

The second time I cake to Thailand, at the recommendation of a friend, I stayed in Pattaya. While still back at the states, I would tell my Thai friends that I was going to Thailand, and when they asked where in Thailand, I would tell them Pattaya, and I could not understand why they snickered. I quickly realized why when I got there.

Thais don't have a very good opinion of Pattaya and of those who live there.

I apologize to all the good decent people who live there, but it is a fact.

Pattaya quickly got old for me, not my cup of tea, and never went back. Plenty of other nice places in Thailand for me.

I Love Khon Kaen, live a couple of Clicks outside the city and have the best of two worlds, The tranquility of the country, but only a few minutes away from all the conveniences a big city has to offer.

The people there are wonderful, and the living is cheaper.

Needless to say, I love it there.

You have 'thai friends'??

Some of us do. Thai friends can be very helpful and fun to be with.

[phl]

I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much.

We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good.

I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless.

I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem.

OP you could consider on-line dating.

As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open.

Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone

My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given.

Maybe time will tell

I do not think there is a woman on this planet who is happy with what she is given, you can give that dream up right away

[pattayadingo]

When you write your ad ... never say that you reside in Pattaya ... ChonBuri is a much better option ... and not lying either ...

OH ... PD ... you sound like a bit of an old romantic dog?

Romance. Kissing, cuddling, making love to a woman ( as opposed to simple sex), waking up to a nice warm companion, walking hand in hand, restaurants, dancing, drinking together? Wonderful

Changing my area to Chonburi tomorrow

[phl]

I've been looking at Khon Kaen, Udon Thani and a few other places and they seem like good places to me. Bangkok is not my scene. Chiang Mai is out because of the smoke and smog times.

If you move, remember that you must never mention to anyone where you previously lived, show photos, or even say the name of that town out loud.

If you do, you will be labeled and nobody in your new town will ever forget it.

I Have to agree

The second time I cake to Thailand, at the recommendation of a friend, I stayed in Pattaya. While still back at the states, I would tell my Thai friends that I was going to Thailand, and when they asked where in Thailand, I would tell them Pattaya, and I could not understand why they snickered. I quickly realized why when I got there.

Thais don't have a very good opinion of Pattaya and of those who live there.

I apologize to all the good decent people who live there, but it is a fact.

Pattaya quickly got old for me, not my cup of tea, and never went back. Plenty of other nice places in Thailand for me.

I Love Khon Kaen, live a couple of Clicks outside the city and have the best of two worlds, The tranquility of the country, but only a few minutes away from all the conveniences a big city has to offer.

The people there are wonderful, and the living is cheaper.

Needless to say, I love it there.

You have 'thai friends'??

Some of us do. Thai friends can be very helpful and fun to be with.

I agree, my company lawyer is my friend. He always calls me when he needs to borrow some money, and always happy to meet for dinner and drinks when i offer to pay

He calls me his best "farang" friend, and yet it still cost me money

[Mosha]

The funny thing is that few here would begrudge a 'western' woman her past but find one unforgivable in a Thai woman.

I would say what is more funny is that few guys would even touch a prostitute back home but in Thailand many Western guys marry them.

If 60% of women in the UK were on the game, I'm sure 60% of men in the UK would marry one. (insert own percentage if dissatisfied with mine)

More to do with opportunity than moral choice I think.

Possibly the UK has more tarts than Thailand.

[pattayadingo]

Excellent post PD. There are worse places than Udonthani.. I know many people who are extremely happy there.

Thanks Ed.

[GreenSnapper]

Many times you are out with a woman and she keeps asking if her, or her are beautiful so they can see what reaction you give. Worst moment was in the car with one g/f and I saw 3 really adorable ladies in their late teens / early twenties dressed in school uniforms and very short skirts and shapely legs. I could not help but look. Did I get some stick over that.

Learn to lie.

HER: "Do you think she is pretty", YOU: "who?"

HER: "Are you looking at those three girls", YOU: "look at that pickup over there behind the schoolgirls, sorry darling what were you saying"

Not correct. I do it like that:

HER: Do you think she is pretty?

ME: Yes!

HER: She smiled at you!

ME: Yes, I smiled too.

HER: She is more pretty than me?

ME: Check yourself!

HER: YOU DON'T LOVE ME!!

ME: I told you that already, sweetheart.

Result: Great sex later on.

Never let women believe they got you. Show them you have options. That is the best way to keep a relationship running well.

[pattayadingo]

It's a pity you have ruled out Bangkok, I do think there is more availabilty of the kind of girl your after here. I could probably ask around in the office for you, but would not want the ear ache if it went wrong

Nice post mind and i think most people do miss having a SO in their life if they have been single for a while.

I certainly miss many of the things you can do with an SO.

I'm not particularly desperate but I do feel there is that something missing.and I think it was the nurses that really triggered it off with the way they were with me, the caring attitude and their general demeanour.

I'll be off out for a beer and a chat with friends tonight. After replying to most posts since I got back I'm parched. yet that is it after we all go home to our beds and wake up in the morning to a huge space that is only good for sprawling in

[phl]

Many times you are out with a woman and she keeps asking if her, or her are beautiful so they can see what reaction you give. Worst moment was in the car with one g/f and I saw 3 really adorable ladies in their late teens / early twenties dressed in school uniforms and very short skirts and shapely legs. I could not help but look. Did I get some stick over that.

Learn to lie.

HER: "Do you think she is pretty", YOU: "who?"

HER: "Are you looking at those three girls", YOU: "look at that pickup over there behind the schoolgirls, sorry darling what were you saying"

Not correct. I do it like that:

HER: Do you think she is pretty?

ME: Yes!

HER: She smiled at you!

ME: Yes, I smiled too.

HER: She is more pretty than me?

ME: Check yourself!

HER: YOU DON'T LOVE ME!!

ME: I told you that already, sweetheart.

Result: Great sex later on.

Never let women believe they got you. Show them you have options. That is the best way to keep a relationship running well.

and possiby even better way to get your wife running to other men and taking everything you own and do not own with her

[pattayadingo]

It took you a whole year to realise this?

Funny enough, I met my missus while she was working as a nurse at bumrungrad, now we live east side pattaya with 2 of our own sprogs....but before you think of doing the same thing let me tell you that I am handome, rich, witty and romantic. Not many can pull it off.

LOL and no, not a whole year.

[GreenSnapper]

and possiby even better way to get your wife running to other men and taking everything you own and do not own with her

You are insecure and don't understand how women tick. Insecure men are the first getting divorced or cheated.

[pattayadingo]

If you live outside the Chiang Mai City area the smog is nowhere near as bad as some would like you to believe. They could be telling you things are bad because we have a lot of fine women to choose from up here and they don't want to share them. I only need one so you are welcome to come and take your pick !

Main problem with CM for me would be the smoke and smog problems. I appreciate they do not have that all year round but with asthma, it has to be a no-no, sadly, because I have looked at CM a few times.

[pattayadingo]

Now I've done so many replies I need food, shower and a beer. Have fun people

[phl]

It's a pity you have ruled out Bangkok, I do think there is more availabilty of the kind of girl your after here. I could probably ask around in the office for you, but would not want the ear ache if it went wrong

Nice post mind and i think most people do miss having a SO in their life if they have been single for a while.

I certainly miss many of the things you can do with an SO.

I'm not particularly desperate but I do feel there is that something missing.and I think it was the nurses that really triggered it off with the way they were with me, the caring attitude and their general demeanour.

I'll be off out for a beer and a chat with friends tonight. After replying to most posts since I got back I'm parched. yet that is it after we all go home to our beds and wake up in the morning to a huge space that is only good for sprawling in

I know your feelings about the nurses.

i suffered shoulder injury few years ago and was seeing a specialist at Bangkok Hospital in Bangkok.

Not only all the nurses were super sexy, but also super nice and even somewhat "flirty"

When i agreed to a surgery, i was also very excited(deep inside) about getting to know the nurses and have a perfect opportunity to ask one of them out as a thank you for taking care of me.

Well that plan miserably failed, because when i woke up after the surgery i was surrounded by double my age, over weight nurses who were as rough as construction workers.

I did go searching for the little angels, only they were no where to be found.

After the full recovery, i returned to see the specialist every month, only to see that the sexy,sweet, flirty angels were no longer sweet or flirty. I guess their job was done, i did pay 500 000 baht for a surgery

[flying]

I'm not particularly desperate but I do feel there is that something missing.and I think it was the nurses that really triggered it off with the way they were with me, the caring attitude and their general demeanour.

The Florence Nightingale Syndrome

[phl]

and possiby even better way to get your wife running to other men and taking everything you own and do not own with her

You are insecure and don't understand how women tick. Insecure men are the first getting divorced or cheated.

Ok master

The next time i meet a woman, i will treat her like a real man ie like you. will tie her up on a chain, feed her bones, and if she lucky enough take her for daily walks

[Briggsy]

If you want intelligent conversation in English with SE Asian hotties, I suggest The Philippines would offer greater opportunties than Pattaya or anywhere else in Thailand.

[jackinbkk]

I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much.

We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good.

I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless.

I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem.

OP you could consider on-line dating.

As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open.

Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone

My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given.

Maybe time will tell

I'd be careful with online dating. For one if you're on an English speaking site and not a Thai one then it's likely the girls are already targeting farang. Why would they target farang$$$? Also if she's 20 and looking for a man 50 years and older then alarms must be ringing. I'm not saying it can't happen but do you think a girl back home would do this?

I would think that a good looking girl wont need to advertise on a website. You would probably see her when she's shopping, working, eating out etc.

Some of the girls who work in the banks seem possible for example to turn out right. A nice girl with a good education, a career and a legitimate reason for crossing paths with you.

You can find bad eggs everywhere but they are more likely to be in some places such as Pattaya than others and the reverse is true. I know of girls from Udon, Khon Kaen etc who have also been bad eggs. You can't go on location alone.

Relationships are as much about luck and chance as anything else. You can help better the odds for a good outcome but that's it. Only time will tell in the end. Spend a good long time living with the girl to find out if she's Mrs Right.

Edited July 5, 2012 by jackinbkk

[Beetlejuice]

I place Thai girls/women/females into three categories.

1. The poor and the underclass’s whose priorities are to get rich quick and only view the farang as a walking bank account or seeking life long financial support for themselves and families.

2. The middle to upper class Thai girls/women/females who may consider a farang as a viable suitor, providing he is able to compete with her lavish lifestyle, provide and sustain her lavish lifestyle in the custom that she is used to or so desires, especially if she is a social climber.

3. Those that would never consider forming relationships with farang males even if they were the last men on Earth.

These days I truly do believe that Thai women are no longer good viable propositions as girlfriends or wives, especially since over the years Thai people have become more affluent and the country has become extremely commercialised. The women’s expectations of a partner are higher than what they used to be, with similar doctrines that are almost comparable with the attitudes of Western women. Many Thai women are these days able to live completely independant lives with no need to take on board a permanment partner or can be extremely particular with whom they choose.

As one poster has already mentioned, perhaps there are girls/women/females in other countries that are not so materialistic and money orientated that would make better and more loyal partners.

Edited July 5, 2012 by Beetlejuice

[phl]

If you want intelligent conversation in English with SE Asian hotties, I suggest The Philippines would offer greater opportunties than Pattaya or anywhere else in Thailand.

Partly true

English is almost as native language. though it does not guarantee the intelligence

[GreenSnapper]

The next time i meet a woman, i will treat her like a real man ie like you. will tie her up on a chain, feed her bones, and if she lucky enough take her for daily walks

You are learning quickly!

But seriously: women dig jerks. That makes no sense by male logic, but their brains don't work by male logic.

Try to be a jerk, and you will see that your success with women will triple.

[kerryk]

I place Thai girls/women/females into three categories.

1. The poor and the underclass’s whose priorities are to get rich quick and only view the farang as a walking bank account or seeking life long financial support for themselves and families.

2. The middle to upper class Thai girls/women/females who may consider a farang as a viable suitor, providing he is able to compete with her lavish lifestyle, provide and sustain her lavish lifestyle in the custom that she is used to or so desires, especially if she is a social climber.

3. Those that would never consider forming relationships with farang males even if they were the last men on Earth.

These days I truly do believe that Thai women are no longer good viable propositions as girlfriends or wives, especially since over the years Thai people have become more affluent and the country has become extremely commercialised. The women’s expectations of a partner are higher than what they used to be, with similar doctrines that are almost comparable with the attitudes of Western women. Many Thai women are these days able to live completely independant lives with no need to take on board a permanment partner or can be extremely particular with whom they choose.

As one poster has already mentioned, perhaps there are girls/women/females in other countries that are not so materialistic and money orientated that would make better and more loyal partners.

A man who can put women of any culture into three categories is beyond redemption as a sentient being. Don't believe me? Post it in the ladies forum and see what happens. Or in a forum with people from civilized countries.

[phl]

I meet my wife in BKK. After 3 years in BKK I had enough of the Big Mango and told my then GF (wife now) that I want to move to Pattaya. First she didn't like the idea at all but after a couple of visits she kind of got used to it and liked the beach scenes very much.

We now live in our second house in the outskirts (Naklua) of Pattaya, have a lovely son and life is good.

I don't think I could live in a small town, I like the buzz here in fun town and keep my Villy in the pants, if you don't respect and thrust each other, marriage is worthless.

I forgot to mention that my wife speaks very good English so communication is not a problem.

OP you could consider on-line dating.

As for on line dating, I've tried that with varying degrees of success and have not ruled it out. I'm still active on 2 sites now because I like to keep my options open.

Being faithful is no problem for me but it seems so many Thai women do think you are playing around especially if you live in Pattaya or go there for holidays. even in the small towns or villages the jungle drums seem to beat loudly if you go out for the night alone, then the phone rings at weird hours to make sure you are alone

My perfect ideal would be to be here in Pattaya and have a good woman at my side and not one demanding sums of cash all the time but to be happy with what she has and what she is given.

Maybe time will tell

I'd be careful with online dating. For one if you're on an English speaking site and not a Thai one then it's likely the girls are already targeting farang. Why would they target farang$$$? Also if she's 20 and looking for a man 50 years and older then alarms must be ringing. I'm not saying it can't happen but do you think a girl back home would do this?

I would think that a good looking girl wont need to advertise on a website. You would probably see her when she's shopping, working, eating out etc.

Some of the girls who work in the banks seem possible for example to turn out right. A nice girl with a good education, a career and a legitimate reason for crossing paths with you.

You can find bad eggs everywhere but they are more likely to be in some places such as Pattaya than others and the reverse is true. I know of girls from Udon, Khon Kaen etc who have also been bad eggs. You can't go on location alone.

Relationships are as much about luck and chance as anything else. You can help better the odds for a good outcome but that's it. Only time will tell in the end. Spend a good long time living with the girl to find out if she's Mrs Right.

Very true and realistic post.

Do keep in mind that bars are filled with girls from Isaan, so moving there is not exactly moving away from bar girls, but rather just going to the source.

There are so many thai girls and women already, who are also single and looking for true feelings and love.

It's those who only target foreigners and do not have an age limit or a type that worry me.

Saying that, i have spoken to many girls and have also seen it with my staff, many Thai guys are alcoholics, who do get drunk every single night, they do not take care of the family, and do have mia noi's.

So understandably many girls do not want a thai guy or have had bad experiences with thai guys.

It is really NOT as easy as just choosing and buying a car, thats why there are so many single people around and not only in Thailand, but all around the world

[phl]

The next time i meet a woman, i will treat her like a real man ie like you. will tie her up on a chain, feed her bones, and if she lucky enough take her for daily walks

You are learning quickly!

But seriously: women dig jerks. That makes no sense by male logic, but their brains don't work by male logic.

Try to be a jerk, and you will see that your success with women will triple.

And who told you i am not successful?

Your attitude to women is on par with 18 year old.

There is time and place for games, rest assured any self respecting, confident, decent woman, would throw you out before you even know it.

But if she is emotionally screwed up, and happy to be treated this way, she can hang around with secure types like yourself

[kerryk]

The next time i meet a woman, i will treat her like a real man ie like you. will tie her up on a chain, feed her bones, and if she lucky enough take her for daily walks

You are learning quickly!

But seriously: women dig jerks. That makes no sense by male logic, but their brains don't work by male logic.

Try to be a jerk, and you will see that your success with women will triple.

Ahh the voice of experience speaks. I have seen a lot of guys like you. It is one of the reasons for the sound business plan of Pattaya and certain neighborhoods in Bangkok and other Thai cities.

[Mosha]

Many times you are out with a woman and she keeps asking if her, or her are beautiful so they can see what reaction you give. Worst moment was in the car with one g/f and I saw 3 really adorable ladies in their late teens / early twenties dressed in school uniforms and very short skirts and shapely legs. I could not help but look. Did I get some stick over that.

Learn to lie.

HER: "Do you think she is pretty", YOU: "who?"

HER: "Are you looking at those three girls", YOU: "look at that pickup over there behind the schoolgirls, sorry darling what were you saying"

Not correct. I do it like that:

HER: Do you think she is pretty?

ME: Yes!

HER: She smiled at you!

ME: Yes, I smiled too.

HER: She is more pretty than me?

ME: Check yourself!

HER: YOU DON'T LOVE ME!!

ME: I told you that already, sweetheart.

Result: Great sex later on.

Never let women believe they got you. Show them you have options. That is the best way to keep a relationship running well.

I tell mine I love her, ( I do) she asks if I've been drinking. lol