Steveyf Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Hi all. my recentley ex girlfriend has told me she is pregnant, i however have my doubts as she has not been forthcoming and refuses to take a test infront of me. she told me she recentley applied for a job at a hospital in bangkok where they done tests as standard procedure and going by the test sheets she showed me they checked everything from diabetes to cholestorol. i am in the belief that she had to of ordered those test to be carried out. even if this is thailand i cant believe that a hospital would check everything before offering a job, hiv,tb and other infectious disesases yes, a drug test yes, a pregnancy test would never of thought of it (unless someone can tell me diffrent) anyway we have been arguing trying to be nice then i have tried finding a diplomatic soloution but all turns to hell and she loses the plot. but she wants me to sign the birth certificate. i need to know what happens legally with me signing the birth cert as the biological father. ( i have no problem paying support as far as im concerned i made the mistake of having sex with no condom and if she is pregnant then shit happens and ill still support the child) anyone able to shed some light please i have asked her if she conisdered a termination but that was a big no no and she will make it clear to the children (if true) that "papa wanted to kill you" even though i only suggested it thanks for you help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 DNA MATE DNA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike123ca Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Since your not married, I don't think your recognized as the father. Let her prove to you that your the father and then you can decide what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommoPhysicist Posted July 8, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Ex-girlfriend, don't speak to her, don't answer phone calls, move condo, hang out at different places. How hard is it for gods sake! You want to know if you should sign a birth certificate when you are not even sure she is pregnant ...... what is wrong with you? Edited July 8, 2012 by TommoPhysicist 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 to be fair i dont think she ever cheated on me but judging by the timeline its a high chance that i would be the father im almost 90% certain of the fact but would still push for dna just incase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike123ca Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Thailand made laws that help protect men from these situations. This is one of the few set of laws were a foreign man enjoys the same protection as a Thai man even though it disadvantages a Thai woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripstanley Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Has she ever been legally married before? If she has and not divorced then that person is the legal father of the child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike123ca Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Ex-girlfriend, don't speak to her, don't answer phone calls, move condo, hang out at different places. How hard is it for gods sake! You want to know if you should sign a birth certificate when you are not even sure she is pregnant ...... what is wrong with you? Ex-girlfriend, don't speak to her, don't answer phone calls, move condo, hang out at different places. How hard is it for gods sake! You want to know if you should sign a birth certificate when you are not even sure she is pregnant ...... what is wrong with you? A bit harsh, but do agree with you. Edited July 8, 2012 by mike123ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Ex-girlfriend, don't speak to her, don't answer phone calls, move condo, hang out at different places. How hard is it for gods sake! You want to know if you should sign a birth certificate when you are not even sure she is pregnant ...... what is wrong with you? just for the reason that if ive made a kid then turning my back on that isnt in me, that is if she is pregnant and if she doesnt cough up soon with something of credible then i will do as you said. however i need to plan for the slim chance that she is actually pregnant. and no, never married previously Edited July 8, 2012 by Steveyf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) however i need to plan for the slim chance that she is actually pregnant. Get a pregnancy test kit, the 60bht ones are fast. Put her in the toilet with the kit, tell her to piss on it or piss off. If the kit doesn't show positive, by the time she leaves you know you are off the hook. How stupid are you, not making her do a test in front of you the moment she claims she is pregnant. Now she has the chance to get pregnant by another guy and claim it as yours. The chances of you being scammed are about 95%, they can spot a mug a mile off (so can I, and yes you are). Edited July 8, 2012 by TommoPhysicist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 however i need to plan for the slim chance that she is actually pregnant. Get a pregnancy test kit, the 60bht ones are fast. Put her in the toilet with the kit, tell her to piss on it or piss off. If the kit doesn't show positive, by the time she leaves you know you are off the hook. How stupid are you, not making her do a test in front of you the moment she claims she is pregnant. Now she has the chance to get pregnant by another guy and claim it as yours. The chances of you being scammed are about 95%, they can spot a mug a mile off (so can I, and yes you are). yup, ive already asked her to do the test infront of me but not being in the same country and unable to leave the uk i cant force her to sit on the toilet and piss on the stick. or it would of been done already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) yup, ive already asked her to do the test infront of me but not being in the same country and unable to leave the uk i cant force her to sit on the toilet and piss on the stick. or it would of been done already. In that case tell her to call you back after the baby is born and you can take baby for a DNA test. You don't have to pay anything as hospital care for pregnancy is free, and efficient in Thailand. Don't speak to her, don't give her any money until after you have done the DNA test. PS Abortion is against the law in Thailand PPS As you are not married, you don't have any parental rights over the baby at all, even if it exists and is yours. PPPS A bargirl that actually gets pregnant, will contact ALL her customers in those two months, and tell them they are the father. It's a great scam, you can screw money out of 5 guys a at the same time. Edited July 8, 2012 by TommoPhysicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 yup, ive already asked her to do the test infront of me but not being in the same country and unable to leave the uk i cant force her to sit on the toilet and piss on the stick. or it would of been done already. In that case tell her to call you back after the baby is born and you can take baby for a DNA test. You don't have to pay anything as hospital care for pregnancy is free, and efficient in Thailand. Don't speak to her, don't give her any money until after you have done the DNA test. PS Abortion is against the law in Thailand PPS As you are not married, you don't have any parental rights over the baby at all, even if it exists and is yours. PPPS A bargirl that actually gets pregnant, will contact ALL her customers in those two months, and tell them they are the father. It's a great scam, you can screw money out of 5 guys a at the same time. sound advice, she wasnt a bargirl and seemed like at the time a decent egg until all this shit started coming my way. any information on the birth certificate should the dna prove me to be the father Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brit1984 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Sounds like a ploy to get you back. Teenage chav girls in the UK do the same. I suggest you make it clear you will do everything possible to help if (and only if) and when she gives birth to your child. In the meantime tell her you are very busy at work but updates on the pregnancy via email would be welcome. The chances are she will give up with this game after a while, so try not to worry yourself sick about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoPhysicist Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) sound advice, she wasnt a bargirl and seemed like at the time a decent egg until all this shit started coming my way. any information on the birth certificate should the dna prove me to be the father Fathers name on birth certificate is irrelevant in Thailand for an unmarried mother. She doesn't need anyones permission to enter any name on the certificate. She could put yours, her dads, her brothers, her uncle ......... etc. Does she even know your name and passport number? If not, don't tell her until after DNA test. By the way, she is almost certainly a sex worker of some kind. Nice Thai girls don't have sex with tourists, the night they meet them. (That is not to suggest you are anything but handsome and irresistible to women) Remember .... NO MONEY! Edited July 8, 2012 by TommoPhysicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted July 8, 2012 Author Share Posted July 8, 2012 thanks for the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bpraim1 Posted July 8, 2012 Share Posted July 8, 2012 Lots of employers will screen future employees, and the tests do include preg tests. As Thailand has maternity leave. This stops ladies form a job to ride the system. If you're 90% certain it's yours, let Your morals lead you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted July 9, 2012 Author Share Posted July 9, 2012 well ill giver her, her due, she dont the test infront of me and it came positive. so looks like a bit of future planning needed for the what if scenarios. should dna come back as a match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted July 9, 2012 Share Posted July 9, 2012 ohhhh thats nice a baby atm,now for the dna test,dont let it happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 yup, ive already asked her to do the test infront of me but not being in the same country and unable to leave the uk i cant force her to sit on the toilet and piss on the stick. or it would of been done already. In that case tell her to call you back after the baby is born and you can take baby for a DNA test. You don't have to pay anything as hospital care for pregnancy is free, and efficient in Thailand. Don't speak to her, don't give her any money until after you have done the DNA test. PS Abortion is against the law in Thailand PPS As you are not married, you don't have any parental rights over the baby at all, even if it exists and is yours. PPPS A bargirl that actually gets pregnant, will contact ALL her customers in those two months, and tell them they are the father. It's a great scam, you can screw money out of 5 guys a at the same time. Quote "A bargirl that actually gets pregnant, will contact ALL her customers in those two months, and tell them they are the father. It's a great scam, you can screw money out of 5 guys a at the same time.'' This scam us used by many girls, i can testify with my own eyes to this, abortion in Thailand is against the law but you can buy an "after sex pill" if a girl thinks she was impregnated or doesn't have her regular period for 60 baht, my girl used to take this pill even though i used a condom, she was absolutely paranoid (until i found out about the 3 other guys she had behind my back) the DNA solution is the best but i smell a scam. Quote "Don't speak to her, don't give her any money until after you have done the DNA test." i smell demands for money on the way, if i am wrong on all counts then get some advice and good luck in your future, just don't send money because probably other guys are as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozsamurai Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 (edited) Mate its a shake down I have seen before. Wait till the dna comes in. Edited July 15, 2012 by ozsamurai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatboy Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 yup, ive already asked her to do the test infront of me but not being in the same country and unable to leave the uk i cant force her to sit on the toilet and piss on the stick. or it would of been done already. In that case tell her to call you back after the baby is born and you can take baby for a DNA test. You don't have to pay anything as hospital care for pregnancy is free, and efficient in Thailand. Don't speak to her, don't give her any money until after you have done the DNA test. PS Abortion is against the law in Thailand PPS As you are not married, you don't have any parental rights over the baby at all, even if it exists and is yours. PPPS A bargirl that actually gets pregnant, will contact ALL her customers in those two months, and tell them they are the father. It's a great scam, you can screw money out of 5 guys a at the same time. Quote "A bargirl that actually gets pregnant, will contact ALL her customers in those two months, and tell them they are the father. It's a great scam, you can screw money out of 5 guys a at the same time.'' This scam us used by many girls, i can testify with my own eyes to this, abortion in Thailand is against the law but you can buy an "after sex pill" if a girl thinks she was impregnated or doesn't have her regular period for 60 baht, my girl used to take this pill even though i used a condom, she was absolutely paranoid (until i found out about the 3 other guys she had behind my back) the DNA solution is the best but i smell a scam. Quote "Don't speak to her, don't give her any money until after you have done the DNA test." i smell demands for money on the way, if i am wrong on all counts then get some advice and good luck in your future, just don't send money because probably other guys are as well. only 3,get a sniffer dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyce Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 If she is pregnant you will never get to see the baby , her family will see to that . it sounds strange that now she's working in a hospital where she had the test done most thai girls do it at home or somwere private not to lose face , this all sounds like a scam to me , how long has it been since you last had sex with her and howlong were you together, there all money oreintated , she will never take a DNA test because if she doe's that there;s no income support from you if it's proven not to be your child . all the best anyway but i would <deleted>'k and forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave111223 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 You sound a bit foolish banging on about a birth certificate when you are don't even know if she is actually pregnant and you aren't even in the same country as her... Maybe you should ask some questions about starting a college fund for the little one? Just so you get all your ducks in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellsDemon Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 " i am in the belief that she had to of ordered those test to be carried out. even if this is thailand i cant believe that a hospital would check everything before offering a job, hiv,tb and other infectious disesases yes, a drug test yes, a pregnancy test would never of thought of it (unless someone can tell me diffrent)" I won't comment on your main issue but this did raise an interesting point. I think it's in any employer's best interest to do a pregnancy test versus other tests. Why? Because if you fall sick/die from HIV or some other condition, your employer has no obligation to support you. But if you're pregnant, then they have to support your maternity leave, and that's just losing money, especially on a new employee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) How does one sign a birth certificate, when a child has not been born or conceived yet? Edited July 20, 2012 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveyf Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 (edited) the birth certificate question was when the baby gets born and its something i couldnt find much information on, had the ultrasound a few days back 9 weeks pregnant due date is march 2nd as for college funds e.t.c that is a long way off providing the dna test proves the kid is mine, mother has al ready been made aware that there will be no money until the child is born and i have 0 intention of going back until that time comes. now she is in chiang mai and asking about hospitals, i told her goverment but then she still has to pay, keep reciepts and claim it back ? something about a pink card ? only pink card im aware about is for non thai workers also any ideas on hospitals and costs from looking here ive noticed suan dok is a favourite but narkorn ping has been mentioned by her cheers Edited August 4, 2012 by Steveyf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 This thread will give you some information about the costs of Thai hopsitals: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/128127-having-a-baby-in-thai-hospital/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar501 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Please excuse my ignorance in matters of birth certificates and family law,....but..... even if the girl is pregnant, and a DNA match later proves the OP to be the father...... what benefit is there to him signing a birth certificate?...unless he wants some kind of custody rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 There is no signing of the birth certificate in Thailand. Being mentioned on the birth certificate is also not enough to be the legal father of the child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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