brianP Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Cambodia, Scambodia, Shoot first ask questions later. Take a Google map-satellite of North Cambodia and Thailand and see the green rainforests still in Thailand, Cambodia is brown and grey from all the deforesting and exploitation. And i thought USA had the worst southern border neighbor ,Mexico. The Cambodian govt. best not start a war with Thailand. Could be their end!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) The need to spy on this small troupe emplacement, least of all at night, is ridiculously small. The idea that they need to shoot down a 'night time spy plane' is just idiotic in the extreme. The commander of the unit that did so needs to be removed and disciplined harshly. Edited July 13, 2012 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcutman Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Cambodia, Scambodia, Shoot first ask questions later. Take a Google map-satellite of North Cambodia and Thailand and see the green rainforests still in Thailand, Cambodia is brown and grey from all the deforesting and exploitation. And i thought USA had the worst southern border neighbor ,Mexico. The Cambodian govt. best not start a war with Thailand. Could be their end!! You might want to take another look at google earth. Thailand looks like the Sahra desert compared to surrounding countries. I believe it is caused for the activities you blame Cambodia of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Brainless MFSOBs. On May 10 [1984][..,] the members of the ICAO Assembly unanimouslyadopted Article 3 his to the Chicago Convention, which provides: (a) The contracting States recognize that every State must refrain from resorting to the use of weapons against civil aircraft in flight and that, in case of interception, the lives of persons on board and the safety of aircraft must not be endangered. This provision shall not be interpreted as modifying in any way the rights and obligations of States set forth in the Charter of the United Nations. While there is no definitive international law that restricts firingon civilian aircraft.l'" international law has developed to the point where, while not universally accepted, there are norms that are sufficiently widely accepted that the "right" to fire on aircraft that offend a country's airspace is quite restricted.!'" The criteria proposed at the end of Section VI above likely meet that standard. Moreover, that proposed standard, while quite high, balances the humanitarian desire to avoid firing on civilian aircraft against a country's need to protect its security. In essence, it restricts firing until an analysis of the situation suggests that the aircraft is, in fact, a military threat-permitting the use of force as a proper defensive action under Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations-or something sufficiently close to a military threat, that is, a threat to lives from a terrorist plot, to warrant comparable action. http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf Let's see whether YS has the balls [sic!] to launch a strong protest while in Cambodia. if she have balls I wounder were they are located. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colabamumbai Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 A message to Jingluk? Can't we all just get along.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L&J Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 What will ever happen if the Cambodian army ever gets Surface to Air missles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Surapong is now involved. And his supervisor is swanning in in Cambodia looking for oil deals So we can bet 100% that he will downplay it, paper over it, obfuscate, render it's coefficient of transparence to the negligible. However, the world press is watching....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayBangkok Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Brainless MFSOBs. On May 10 [1984][..,] the members of the ICAO Assembly unanimouslyadopted Article 3 his to the Chicago Convention, which provides: (a) The contracting States recognize that every State must refrain from resorting to the use of weapons against civil aircraft in flight and that, in case of interception, the lives of persons on board and the safety of aircraft must not be endangered. This provision shall not be interpreted as modifying in any way the rights and obligations of States set forth in the Charter of the United Nations. While there is no definitive international law that restricts firingon civilian aircraft.l'" international law has developed to the point where, while not universally accepted, there are norms that are sufficiently widely accepted that the "right" to fire on aircraft that offend a country's airspace is quite restricted.!'" The criteria proposed at the end of Section VI above likely meet that standard. Moreover, that proposed standard, while quite high, balances the humanitarian desire to avoid firing on civilian aircraft against a country's need to protect its security. In essence, it restricts firing until an analysis of the situation suggests that the aircraft is, in fact, a military threat-permitting the use of force as a proper defensive action under Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations-or something sufficiently close to a military threat, that is, a threat to lives from a terrorist plot, to warrant comparable action. http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf Let's see whether YS has the balls [sic!] to launch a strong protest while in Cambodia. if she have balls I wounder were they are located. Dubai! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 djeezes, brains shortage when these guys born or what ??? cannot see the plane clearly, so let's just shoot it, it might be a spy plane, doing what ? taking pictures ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitker Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Brainless MFSOBs. http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf Let's see whether YS has the balls [sic!] to launch a strong protest while in Cambodia. if she have balls I wounder were they are located. Dubai! peanuts then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzieslapper Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 adding the aircraft had been around 10 kilometres (six miles) inside Cambodia. Yes, Siam Rep the destination for this jet is inside Cambodia, what a out ragous situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiangmaicharlies Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 A sombre event if true - that doesn't deserve the cheap jokes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Whats worth spying on in Cambodia? NOTHING. Angkor What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 adding the aircraft had been around 10 kilometres (six miles) inside Cambodia. Yes, Siam Rep the destination for this jet is inside Cambodia, what a out ragous situation. ..... and Siam Reap means, of course, victory over Siam! Perfect symmetry..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fareastguy Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That's nice, Yingluk, Thaksin & Hillary all present together.. I wonder how many new passports/visa's will be swapping hands along with hug's & kisses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The Commander concerned should be relieved of duty. In terms of air traffic what the cambodian military did is an international violation and whilst there seems to have been many jokes on this thread, the simple fact of the matter is thank <deleted> they did not hit and critically damage the aircraft. HOW can the cambodian commander be protecting cambodian airspace without first contacting the appropriate civil aviation and military aviation authorities! Well said sir! The appropriate civil aviation authorities should demand an inquiry. Thankfully no damage was done - this time. Cambodia must be able to demonstrate that protocols are in place between civilian air traffic control and the military to avoid potential disasters of this nature. This time it was a trigger happy idiot with a machine gun - next time it might be someone who has a ground to air missile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That's nice, Yingluk, Thaksin & Hillary all present together.. I wonder how many new passports/visa's will be swapping hands along with hug's & kisses. I'm afraid the US has a terrible recent history of putting it's saddle on the wrong horse. Do you think they are all there to carve up the Fiefdons of the newly formed Thaibodia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 That's nice, Yingluk, Thaksin & Hillary all present together.. I wonder how many new passports/visa's will be swapping hands along with hug's & kisses. I'm afraid the US has a terrible recent history of putting it's saddle on the wrong horse. Do you think they are all there to carve up the Fiefdons of the newly formed Thaibodia? You know the Wikileaks a few years ago about the Thaksin and the King......How can be someone so silly..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) @Moruya... You forgot Hun Sen....ex Khmer Rouge, head of Cambodian Peoples Party and general thug...runs Cambodia and everything in it. Remember the coup back in July 1997...the UN let Hun Sen be co-Prime Minister with Ranariddh after Rannaridh's FUNCINPEC actually won the 1993 elections because Hun Sen hated Ranariddh & his party and threatened to put Cambodia back into war. So the UN said..."Let's have two Prime Ministers!" Ranariddh couldn't lead a troop of Cub Scouts to a picnic. Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge Company Commander before he Chu Hoi'd to the Vietnamese and became their faithful servant after the Viet's over-ran Cambodia. Today, nothing get's done without Hun Sen getting his rather large cut of the pie. Just some history....just some history. Edited July 13, 2012 by sunshine51 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newermonkey Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Who the F cares about borders, except the politicians who need to trap its populous so they can extract and milk the people, The whole dangerous incident is avoidable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryNelsonHarper Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Passenger's were startled by gun fire! Nyuh huh .. How did this even get reported? Clandestine Ops to obtain a new secret Larb Moo recipe no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) "The Cambodian military fired because there was a Thai passenger plane - Bangkok Airways - which could not land at Siem Reap airport because of bad weather," said Thai deputy army spokesman Colonel Sirichan Ngathong. Siam Reap is over 100 km from the northern border where disputed temple is. About 100 Km as well from western border (poipet) where there is more Casino than military. I thought planes not been able to land were usually circling around the airport, not around the borders 100km away... Sounds like made up story. Edited July 13, 2012 by CantSpell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeLing Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 ...... One call to air traffic control would have solved the issue. ...... Maybe no credit left on phone or battery empty ? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine51 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 @JoeLing... No phone...sold it to buy ganja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notime Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Something is really fishy about this story. The disputed border area near Preah Vihear Temple is about 200 km North-East from Siem Reap airport where the Bangkok Airways flight was supposedly heading to and that was "closed due to bad weather". If that was true the plane would be circling somewhere on the way to Siem Reap (from Bangkok I presume) or over the area of landing and NOT traveling in the opposite direction adding extra miles and consuming extra fuel for nothing. The fact that Bangkok Airways didn't confirm the incident also makes me suspicious if it ever happened. Was there anything on the idiot Cambodian trigger-happy soldiers firing at civilian aircraft in the Cambodian press? If true, the incident should definitely be grounds to reliving the local commander of his duties. But, somehow, I feel the whole story is a beat-up designed to stir-up trouble and to make Cambodian army look stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The Commander concerned should be relieved of duty. In terms of air traffic what the cambodian military did is an international violation and whilst there seems to have been many jokes on this thread, the simple fact of the matter is thank <deleted> they did not hit and critically damage the aircraft. HOW can the cambodian commander be protecting cambodian airspace without first contacting the appropriate civil aviation and military aviation authorities! 100% agreed, brainless amateur´s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) @Moruya... You forgot Hun Sen....ex Khmer Rouge, head of Cambodian Peoples Party and general thug...runs Cambodia and everything in it. Remember the coup back in July 1997...the UN let Hun Sen be co-Prime Minister with Ranariddh after Rannaridh's FUNCINPEC actually won the 1993 elections because Hun Sen hated Ranariddh & his party and threatened to put Cambodia back into war. So the UN said..."Let's have two Prime Ministers!" Ranariddh couldn't lead a troop of Cub Scouts to a picnic. Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge Company Commander before he Chu Hoi'd to the Vietnamese and became their faithful servant after the Viet's over-ran Cambodia. Today, nothing get's done without Hun Sen getting his rather large cut of the pie. Just some history....just some history. Thats why Thaksin and Hun Sen goes so well together. Edited July 13, 2012 by Skywalker69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 "The Cambodian military fired because there was a Thai passenger plane - Bangkok Airways - which could not land at Siem Reap airport because of bad weather," said Thai deputy army spokesman Colonel Sirichan Ngathong. Siam Reap is over 100 km from the northern border where disputed temple is. About 100 Km as well from western border (poipet) where there is more Casino than military. I thought planes not been able to land were usually circling around the airport, not around the borders 100km away... Sounds like made up story. I'm glad you aren't a traffic controller. Circling the airport indeed! If there is a CBX weather system near the airport, they will move planes to a suitable place to hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Oh for goodness sake ! they were only protecting their country against a hostile airline company. Now they should do this on Samui ! Just get the same airline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Come on Thaks, have a word with your buddy. He can't just go shooting at anything that moves even there was one of your TV critics on board! Bangkok Airline is cheap airline....no risk that any family member sit inside. Cheap? certainly not a low cost carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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