Cambodian Troops 'Fire At Bangkok Airways Jet': Thai Army

[brianP]

Cambodia, Scambodia, Shoot first ask questions later. Take a Google map-satellite of North Cambodia and Thailand and see the green rainforests still in Thailand, Cambodia is brown and grey from all the deforesting and exploitation. And i thought USA had the worst southern border neighbor ,Mexico. The Cambodian govt. best not start a war with Thailand. Could be their end!!

[animatic]

The need to spy on this small troupe emplacement, least of all at night, is ridiculously small. The idea that they need to shoot down a 'night time spy plane' is just idiotic in the extreme. The commander of the unit that did so needs to be removed and disciplined harshly.

Edited July 13, 2012 by animatic

[dcutman]

Cambodia, Scambodia, Shoot first ask questions later. Take a Google map-satellite of North Cambodia and Thailand and see the green rainforests still in Thailand, Cambodia is brown and grey from all the deforesting and exploitation. And i thought USA had the worst southern border neighbor ,Mexico. The Cambodian govt. best not start a war with Thailand. Could be their end!!

You might want to take another look at google earth. Thailand looks like the Sahra desert compared to surrounding countries. I believe it is caused for the activities you blame Cambodia of.

[Skywalker69]

Brainless MFSOBs.

On May 10 [1984][..,] the members of the ICAO Assembly unanimously

adopted Article 3 his to the Chicago Convention, which

provides:

(a) The contracting States recognize that every State must refrain

from resorting to the use of weapons against civil aircraft in

flight and that, in case of interception, the lives of persons on

board and the safety of aircraft must not be endangered. This

provision shall not be interpreted as modifying in any way the

rights and obligations of States set forth in the Charter of the

United Nations.

While there is no definitive international law that restricts firing

on civilian aircraft.l'" international law has developed to the

point where, while not universally accepted, there are norms

that are sufficiently widely accepted that the "right" to fire on

aircraft that offend a country's airspace is quite restricted.!'"

The criteria proposed at the end of Section VI above likely meet

that standard. Moreover, that proposed standard, while quite high,

balances the humanitarian desire to avoid firing on civilian

aircraft against a country's need to protect its security. In

essence, it restricts firing until an analysis of the situation suggests

that the aircraft is, in fact, a military threat-permitting the

use of force as a proper defensive action under Article 51 of the

Charter of the United Nations-or something sufficiently close

to a military threat, that is, a threat to lives from a terrorist plot,

to warrant comparable action.

http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf

Let's see whether YS has the balls [sic!] to launch a strong protest while in Cambodia.

if she have balls I wounder were they are located.

[Colabamumbai]

A message to Jingluk? Can't we all just get along.?

[L&J]

What will ever happen if the Cambodian army ever gets Surface to Air missles?

[Moruya]

Surapong is now involved.

And his supervisor is swanning in in Cambodia looking for oil deals

So we can bet 100% that he will downplay it, paper over it, obfuscate, render it's coefficient of transparence to the negligible.

However, the world press is watching.......

[JayBangkok]

Brainless MFSOBs.

On May 10 [1984][..,] the members of the ICAO Assembly unanimously

adopted Article 3 his to the Chicago Convention, which

provides:

(a) The contracting States recognize that every State must refrain

from resorting to the use of weapons against civil aircraft in

flight and that, in case of interception, the lives of persons on

board and the safety of aircraft must not be endangered. This

provision shall not be interpreted as modifying in any way the

rights and obligations of States set forth in the Charter of the

United Nations.

While there is no definitive international law that restricts firing

on civilian aircraft.l'" international law has developed to the

point where, while not universally accepted, there are norms

that are sufficiently widely accepted that the "right" to fire on

aircraft that offend a country's airspace is quite restricted.!'"

The criteria proposed at the end of Section VI above likely meet

that standard. Moreover, that proposed standard, while quite high,

balances the humanitarian desire to avoid firing on civilian

aircraft against a country's need to protect its security. In

essence, it restricts firing until an analysis of the situation suggests

that the aircraft is, in fact, a military threat-permitting the

use of force as a proper defensive action under Article 51 of the

Charter of the United Nations-or something sufficiently close

to a military threat, that is, a threat to lives from a terrorist plot,

to warrant comparable action.

http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf

Let's see whether YS has the balls [sic!] to launch a strong protest while in Cambodia.

if she have balls I wounder were they are located.

Dubai!

[belg]

djeezes, brains shortage when these guys born or what ??? cannot see the plane clearly, so let's just shoot it, it might be a spy plane, doing what ? taking pictures ?

[Mitker]

Brainless MFSOBs.

http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf

Let's see whether YS has the balls [sic!] to launch a strong protest while in Cambodia.

if she have balls I wounder were they are located.

Dubai!

peanuts then

[mozzieslapper]

adding the aircraft had been around 10 kilometres (six miles) inside Cambodia.

Yes, Siam Rep the destination for this jet is inside Cambodia, what a out ragous situation.

[chiangmaicharlies]

A sombre event if true - that doesn't deserve the cheap jokes.

[ratcatcher]

Whats worth spying on in Cambodia? NOTHING.

Angkor What?

[Moruya]

adding the aircraft had been around 10 kilometres (six miles) inside Cambodia.

Yes, Siam Rep the destination for this jet is inside Cambodia, what a out ragous situation.

..... and Siam Reap means, of course, victory over Siam!

Perfect symmetry.....

[fareastguy]

That's nice, Yingluk, Thaksin & Hillary all present together.. I wonder how many new passports/visa's will be swapping hands along with hug's & kisses.

[Baerboxer]

The Commander concerned should be relieved of duty. In terms of air traffic what the cambodian military did is an international violation and whilst there seems to have been many jokes on this thread, the simple fact of the matter is thank <deleted> they did not hit and critically damage the aircraft. HOW can the cambodian commander be protecting cambodian airspace without first contacting the appropriate civil aviation and military aviation authorities!

Well said sir! The appropriate civil aviation authorities should demand an inquiry. Thankfully no damage was done - this time. Cambodia must be able to demonstrate that protocols are in place between civilian air traffic control and the military to avoid potential disasters of this nature. This time it was a trigger happy idiot with a machine gun - next time it might be someone who has a ground to air missile!

[Moruya]

That's nice, Yingluk, Thaksin & Hillary all present together.. I wonder how many new passports/visa's will be swapping hands along with hug's & kisses.

I'm afraid the US has a terrible recent history of putting it's saddle on the wrong horse.

Do you think they are all there to carve up the Fiefdons of the newly formed Thaibodia?

[h90]

That's nice, Yingluk, Thaksin & Hillary all present together.. I wonder how many new passports/visa's will be swapping hands along with hug's & kisses.

I'm afraid the US has a terrible recent history of putting it's saddle on the wrong horse.

Do you think they are all there to carve up the Fiefdons of the newly formed Thaibodia?

You know the Wikileaks a few years ago about the Thaksin and the King......How can be someone so silly.....

[sunshine51]

@Moruya...

You forgot Hun Sen....ex Khmer Rouge, head of Cambodian Peoples Party

and general thug...runs Cambodia and everything in it. Remember the coup

back in July 1997...the UN let Hun Sen be co-Prime Minister with Ranariddh

after Rannaridh's FUNCINPEC actually won the 1993 elections because

Hun Sen hated Ranariddh & his party and threatened to put Cambodia

back into war. So the UN said..."Let's have two Prime Ministers!"

Ranariddh couldn't lead a troop of Cub Scouts to a picnic. Hun Sen

was a Khmer Rouge Company Commander before he Chu Hoi'd to

the Vietnamese and became their faithful servant after the Viet's

over-ran Cambodia.

Today, nothing get's done without Hun Sen getting his rather large

cut of the pie.

Just some history....just some history.

Edited July 13, 2012 by sunshine51

[newermonkey]

Who the F cares about borders, except the politicians who need to trap its populous so they can extract and milk the people, The whole dangerous incident is avoidable.

[GaryNelsonHarper]

Passenger's were startled by gun fire! Nyuh huh .. How did this even get reported?

Clandestine Ops to obtain a new secret Larb Moo recipe no doubt.

[CantSpell]

"The Cambodian military fired because there was a Thai passenger plane - Bangkok Airways - which could not land at Siem Reap airport because of bad weather," said Thai deputy army spokesman Colonel Sirichan Ngathong.

Siam Reap is over 100 km from the northern border where disputed temple is. About 100 Km as well from western border (poipet) where there is more Casino than military.

I thought planes not been able to land were usually circling around the airport, not around the borders 100km away...

Sounds like made up story.

Edited July 13, 2012 by CantSpell

[JoeLing]

...... One call to air traffic control would have solved the issue. ......

Maybe no credit left on phone or battery empty ? ;-)

[sunshine51]

@JoeLing...

No phone...sold it to buy ganja.

[notime]

Something is really fishy about this story. The disputed border area near Preah Vihear Temple is about 200 km North-East from Siem Reap airport where the Bangkok Airways flight was supposedly heading to and that was "closed due to bad weather". If that was true the plane would be circling somewhere on the way to Siem Reap (from Bangkok I presume) or over the area of landing and NOT traveling in the opposite direction adding extra miles and consuming extra fuel for nothing.

The fact that Bangkok Airways didn't confirm the incident also makes me suspicious if it ever happened. Was there anything on the idiot Cambodian trigger-happy soldiers firing at civilian aircraft in the Cambodian press? If true, the incident should definitely be grounds to reliving the local commander of his duties. But, somehow, I feel the whole story is a beat-up designed to stir-up trouble and to make Cambodian army look stupid.

[Skywalker69]

The Commander concerned should be relieved of duty. In terms of air traffic what the cambodian military did is an international violation and whilst there seems to have been many jokes on this thread, the simple fact of the matter is thank <deleted> they did not hit and critically damage the aircraft. HOW can the cambodian commander be protecting cambodian airspace without first contacting the appropriate civil aviation and military aviation authorities!

100% agreed, brainless amateur´s.

[Skywalker69]

@Moruya...

You forgot Hun Sen....ex Khmer Rouge, head of Cambodian Peoples Party

and general thug...runs Cambodia and everything in it. Remember the coup

back in July 1997...the UN let Hun Sen be co-Prime Minister with Ranariddh

after Rannaridh's FUNCINPEC actually won the 1993 elections because

Hun Sen hated Ranariddh & his party and threatened to put Cambodia

back into war. So the UN said..."Let's have two Prime Ministers!"

Ranariddh couldn't lead a troop of Cub Scouts to a picnic. Hun Sen

was a Khmer Rouge Company Commander before he Chu Hoi'd to

the Vietnamese and became their faithful servant after the Viet's

over-ran Cambodia.

Today, nothing get's done without Hun Sen getting his rather large

cut of the pie.

Just some history....just some history.

Thats why Thaksin and Hun Sen goes so well together. Edited July 13, 2012 by Skywalker69

[Moruya]

"The Cambodian military fired because there was a Thai passenger plane - Bangkok Airways - which could not land at Siem Reap airport because of bad weather," said Thai deputy army spokesman Colonel Sirichan Ngathong.

Siam Reap is over 100 km from the northern border where disputed temple is. About 100 Km as well from western border (poipet) where there is more Casino than military.

I thought planes not been able to land were usually circling around the airport, not around the borders 100km away...

Sounds like made up story.

I'm glad you aren't a traffic controller. Circling the airport indeed!

If there is a CBX weather system near the airport, they will move planes to a suitable place to hold.

[oldsailor35]

Oh for goodness sake ! they were only protecting their country against a hostile airline company. Now they should do this on Samui ! Just get the same airline.

[alant]

Come on Thaks, have a word with your buddy. He can't just go shooting at anything that moves even there was one of your TV critics on board!

Bangkok Airline is cheap airline....no risk that any family member sit inside.

Cheap? certainly not a low cost carrier.