Buchholz Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 So he is actually saying that all the criminals, corrupt politicians {and there is a lot}, people who over stay there visas and on and on should be forgiven and patted on the back Visa overstay is a "politically motivated charge" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLew Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Thaksins three favorite words "me me me" IMO, this country will not progress until he gets his what is coming to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgma Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 the sheer fact that he makes such comments is proof beyond reasonable doubt that the cult he created around him has lost ground. It is a blunt move to put person above countries politics. Yet PT is believed to be driven by this cult phenomenon, the ultra rich man - poor man saga continues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Ousted Thai premier premier Thaksin Shinawatra ©, flanked by Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim (L) and Nobel laureate and former East Timor president Jose Ramos Horta ® attend the first Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta on July 17, 2012. The three Southeast Asian prominent political figures were panelist in the forum on peace and reconciliation in Southeast Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yunla Posted July 17, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2012 Turkeys want to ban Christmas too. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Do your time, buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whybother Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Thaksin: "Whitewash my crimes and I'll stop causing trouble". Viola! Reconciliation. Edited July 30, 2012 by Maestro Deleted nonsensical part of post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurgenG Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Ousted Thai premier premier Thaksin Shinawatra ©, flanked by Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim (L) and Nobel laureate and former East Timor president Jose Ramos Horta ® attend the first Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta on July 17, 2012. The three Southeast Asian prominent political figures were panelist in the forum on peace and reconciliation in Southeast Asia. Two Asian recipient of the Nobel Peace price, Jose Ramos and Aung San Suu Kyi, side with Thaksin. These people have been recognized by the international community as the moral leaders of democracy and the free world in Asia. They can't be that wrong. Open your eyes, the world is telling you who is the good guy. Some will tell you that foreigners (westerners) don't understand Thailand. But these two guys are Asian and genuine freedom fighters. Maybe it's time you stop believing the propaganda of some failed politicians and other bankrupt press magnate and listen to the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Ousted Thai premier premier Thaksin Shinawatra ©, flanked by Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim (L) and Nobel laureate and former East Timor president Jose Ramos Horta ® attend the first Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta on July 17, 2012. The three Southeast Asian prominent political figures were panelist in the forum on peace and reconciliation in Southeast Asia. Two Asian recipient of the Nobel Peace price, Jose Ramos and Aung San Suu Kyi, side with Thaksin. These people have been recognized by the international community as the moral leaders of democracy and the free world in Asia. They can't be that wrong. Open your eyes, the world is telling you who is the good guy. When and what did ASSK and Ramos specfically say they sided with Thaksin? Btw, ASSK isn't there at the forum. Btw, sitting beside someone doesn't necessarily mean you "side with" them. . Edited July 18, 2012 by Buchholz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 "Everyone says the same thing" Complete lie You beat me to it, but my question is. Whome is everyone? The man seems desperat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yunla Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Two Asian recipient of the Nobel Peace price, Jose Ramos and Aung San Suu Kyi, side with Thaksin. Proof please. "Side with" how? Your claim that ASSK is in any way allied with Thaksin or that she in any way considers him a fellow human-rights campaigner, is new information to the world. Please do share it. I've seen Thaksin giving Hun Sen a great big best-friends lovehug. Hun Sen is a brutal despotic human-rights-violator, mass-torturer and mass-murderer. Him and Thaksin are best buddies and you can see the photos of him and Thaksin hugging eachother in the newspapers. Edited July 18, 2012 by Yunla 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboyz1 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 I see Thaksin's statement as a veiled threat. Let me off the hook, or there will be trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 One is inclined to ask, ''Just how many million reasons does Thaksin have for an amnesty as opposed to everyone?'' Yet again we see clearly demonstrated Thaksins arrogance and his contempt for basic common decency, and justice along with his delusional behavior pattern. He is on the run he broke his bail he is a fugitive .Is he prepared to forgive and forget ? That, ''forgive and forget scenario from Thaksin would be comparable to a chicken going to the dentists for a check up!! All Thaksin wants is to get back to getting his hands into the state coffers and to occupy the seat of power irrespective of how it is done and at what cost. About 46 billion reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 "Everyone says the same thing" Complete lie You beat me to it, but my question is. Whome is everyone? The man seems desperat. Everyone who agrees with Thaksin of course. Anyone who doesn't, does not count to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Ousted Thai premier premier Thaksin Shinawatra ©, flanked by Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim (L) and Nobel laureate and former East Timor president Jose Ramos Horta ® attend the first Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta on July 17, 2012. The three Southeast Asian prominent political figures were panelist in the forum on peace and reconciliation in Southeast Asia. Two Asian recipient of the Nobel Peace price, Jose Ramos and Aung San Suu Kyi, side with Thaksin. These people have been recognized by the international community as the moral leaders of democracy and the free world in Asia. They can't be that wrong. Open your eyes, the world is telling you who is the good guy. Some will tell you that foreigners (westerners) don't understand Thailand. But these two guys are Asian and genuine freedom fighters. Maybe it's time you stop believing the propaganda of some failed politicians and other bankrupt press magnate and listen to the world. Such UTTERV B.S. Please show just ONE ARTICLE, not connected with Robert Amsterdam, that shows that these two persons you mention agree with Thaksin getting an amnesty for his charges. Their own words, actually quotes stating this. Attending a forum and doing a photo op via telephoto lens to make them seem closer together, is not the same thing as "going on record agreeing with his claims." Edited July 18, 2012 by animatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 "Everyone says the same thing" Complete lie Is he the same Thaksin that a while ago he said he does what court says and he is all doe reconciliation at any costs? So which Thaksin is the one? Must be the selfish one Is there another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 "Everyone says the same thing, that reconciliation must include amnesty," he told a panel discussion at the Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta. Except for k. Abhisit and k. Suthep of course. Also the mother of a volunteer paramedic who died at Wat Pathum Wanaram during the political turmoil in 2010 and recently might have given a statement to a prosecuter of the ICC seems less inclined. Even phiphidon is blaming k. Abhisit for setting up the TRCT without real powers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboyz1 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 If the guy really cares about Thailand, why doesn't he come out and say something like "I support amnesty for everyone except myself?" That would prove something. Will never happen though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saltandpepper Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 "Everyone says the same thing" Complete lie You beat me to it, but my question is. Whome is everyone? The man seems desperat. Not everyone says the same thing. For example, I don't say the same thing! That's one less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod711 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 "Everyone says the same thing, that reconciliation must include amnesty," he told a panel discussion at the Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta. I'm sure that Thaksin would never do two years, probably not more than one hour. The reason he so desperately wants amnesty is likely because as a convicted criminal he can't be prime minister and the red shirt leaders want amnesty as well. Jatuporn, Nuttawhut and the rest have their televised statements about burning city halls etc. hanging over their heads for any future government to use against them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fareastguy Posted July 18, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2012 All this from the very man who filled his pockets with the countries wealth and then ran for the hills when found out. He boasts of "this is the only way to true reconciliation" to forgive!! Lets not forget, this is a man found guilty & prosecuted of a crime committed within his own country by a court of law elected to uphold the law of the land. A man who is such a coward that he fled his own country in self imposed exile to escape his punishment. A man who still try's to influence the government, his family & so called loyal followers from afar to change the law to allow him to come back, not creep in the back door but boldly through the front entrance like some hero returning from battle. The only way he should be allowed back into Thailand is to serve his full sentence like any other convicted criminal & even then after being released from prison given a lifetime ban from holding any political position. Why should he be pardoned for committing such a crime when the man on the street is not given such privileges, he talks of forgiveness.. He should go down on his knees before the people & beg for their forgiveness for his crimes against the country & monarchy.. Is it not a crime in this corrupt country for politicians to have contact with convicted criminals who have evaded the law? They should send out a clear message to ignore him or be prosecuted themselves for having any involvement with him & also ask foreign countries to do likewise. After all he is a convicted criminal on the run!! 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurofiend Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Is it not a crime in this corrupt country for politicians to have contact with convicted criminals who have evaded the law? don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 It's preposterous. The Thai press is capitalizing on him every day to sell papers and sensational him while referring to him as a "fugitive." Maybe he should be granted amnesty under the strict condition that he not run for any public office. The press should detach from him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) Is it not a crime in this corrupt country for politicians to have contact with convicted criminals who have evaded the law? don't think so. Unless that person is for example the PTP House Speaker, and is caught on tape taking orders from that convicted criminal who is also resident of a foreign nation and has large foreign business interests. That is a very serious crime indeed! Edited July 18, 2012 by Yunla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Is it not a crime in this corrupt country for politicians to have contact with convicted criminals who have evaded the law? don't think so. Possibly not "contact". How about "aiding and abetting"? Or "Politicians/public servants accepting financial inducements"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Just to remind all that this is not about Thaksin "2012-04-01 Meanwhile, Pheu Thai Party deputy spokesperson Sunisa Lertpakawat said she believed the Democrats have lost touch with reality by proposing strategies to develop the country that have no specific target and lack details. "The Democrat plan focuses only on winning elections but they have not touched on political morality and ethics. Their plan is only to bring Abhisit, their leader back to power,'' she said." http://www.asianewsn...?id=29190&sec=2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Ousted Thai premier premier Thaksin Shinawatra ©, flanked by Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim (L) and Nobel laureate and former East Timor president Jose Ramos Horta ® attend the first Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta on July 17, 2012. The three Southeast Asian prominent political figures were panelist in the forum on peace and reconciliation in Southeast Asia. Has this been photoshopped? He seems to be the only one wearing an ID tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moruya Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Just to remind all that this is not about Thaksin"2012-04-01 Meanwhile, Pheu Thai Party deputy spokesperson Sunisa Lertpakawat said she believed the Democrats have lost touch with reality by proposing strategies to develop the country that have no specific target and lack details. "The Democrat plan focuses only on winning elections but they have not touched on political morality and ethics. Their plan is only to bring Abhisit, their leader back to power,'' she said." http://www.asianewsn...?id=29190&sec=2 As opposed to the PTP policies to bring Thaksin back, bring Thaksin back, bring Thaksin back and bring Thaksin back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Just to remind all that this is not about Thaksin "2012-04-01 Meanwhile, Pheu Thai Party deputy spokesperson Sunisa Lertpakawat said she believed the Democrats have lost touch with reality by proposing strategies to develop the country that have no specific target and lack details. "The Democrat plan focuses only on winning elections but they have not touched on political morality and ethics. Their plan is only to bring Abhisit, their leader back to power,'' she said." http://www.asianewsn...?id=29190&sec=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 Ousted Thai premier premier Thaksin Shinawatra ©, flanked by Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim (L) and Nobel laureate and former East Timor president Jose Ramos Horta ® attend the first Strategic Review Forum in Jakarta on July 17, 2012. The three Southeast Asian prominent political figures were panelist in the forum on peace and reconciliation in Southeast Asia. Has this been photoshopped? He seems to be the only one wearing an ID tag. It isn't an ID tag, it's a sign that says "Unclean" In twelve languages, so that no one is in any doubt. (Thai not being one of them, so he can't read it himself) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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