jayboy Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Don't fret about it.France has a highly sophisticated and well informed foreign ministry at the Quai d'Orsai and probably doesn't need too much guidance from the geniuses at TVF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Don't fret about it.France has a highly sophisticated and well informed foreign ministry at the Quai d'Orsai and probably doesn't need too much guidance from the geniuses at TVF. Well thanks for the guidance, , geniuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrysteve Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 I wonder how the French President Hollande feels about the human abuse and human trafficing going on in the Fishing Industry... I wonder if he "HAILS" that too while he's hailing!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Why are there responses to this topic. We all know politicians say not what they think, but rather, what needs to be said for international relations. Think about China : Atrocious human rights record, Hillary Clinton slams countries for bad human rights records, asked directly about China "er..well...err..um" It's the same for all politics...unless countries are at war (or close to it), you say nice things. Who's gonna say: "Thanks for visiting us Mr. Head of State, we think your country is a joke". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waza Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Well that settles it then, If Tom says so, its gospel. end of discussion What a patongo. Edited July 25, 2012 by waza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlansford Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Well that settles it then, If Tom says so, its gospel. end of discussion What a patongo. come on waza, bring some facts, or, ... not. Edited July 25, 2012 by tlansford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Another western foreign politician who doesnt know what they are talking about in respect of thailand. Soon he will also discover his plan to spend more money france doesnt have will screw the french economy. Then we can see the result of his"democratic" commitments There is nothing wrong with wish fulfilment! Edited July 25, 2012 by Morakot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Off topic posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yunla Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 (edited) Mitterrand was neither communist (unless you call socialist communists) nor hapless (unless you call being president for 14 years hapless). Mitterrand was hapless because his policies ruined the French economy, with his communist-style state control of free business. Mitterrand gave four senior Cabinet positions to Communists. Also ; When François Mitterrand visited China in 1961, Mao Zedong mocked reports of famine in the country. There was no famine, he said, only "a period of scarcity", an assertion that Mitterand - who described Mao as "a great scholar known in the entire world for the diversity of his genius" - was happy to accept. Returning to France after his three-week tour, Mitterrand had no doubts about his account of events: "I repeat in order to be clearly understood - there is no famine in China." Mitterrand calling Mao a genius and then denying the famine component of the Communist genocide of 70 million people is absolutely shameful, a claim that would never be made by anyone without a red agenda. Why this is relevant is that Hollande has repeatedly said Mitterrand was a truly great leader, and Hollande openly emulates many of Mitterrand's policies. When you then realise that Mitterrand visited with Mao and describes Mao as a genius, you realise the kind of man Hollande respects. Why this is relevant to Yingluck, is that she herself came to power on a sea of Maoist rhetoric, power to the farmers, death to the elites, agrarian populism, communist red imagery and face-imagery, UDD magazine's article on Lenin etc. Yingluck's election was based on communist-rhetoric populism. For that reason I am not at all surprised she was embraced by the pro-red Hollande who emulates his communist hero Mitterrand's policies. Why it becomes offensive to me is when Hollande refers to Yingluck's "democracy commitments", because Yingluck's PTP has actually taken some major steps away from democracy in their first year, they breach UDHR and avoid debate etc. and really they are more in common with the 20th century communist dictatorships than any kind of 21st century 'democracy commitment'. Edited July 25, 2012 by Yunla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Mitterrand was neither communist (unless you call socialist communists) nor hapless (unless you call being president for 14 years hapless). Mitterrand was hapless because his policies ruined the French economy, with his communist-style state control of free business. Mitterrand gave four senior Cabinet positions to Communists. Also ; When François Mitterrand visited China in 1961, Mao Zedong mocked reports of famine in the country. There was no famine, he said, only "a period of scarcity", an assertion that Mitterand - who described Mao as "a great scholar known in the entire world for the diversity of his genius" - was happy to accept. Returning to France after his three-week tour, Mitterrand had no doubts about his account of events: "I repeat in order to be clearly understood - there is no famine in China." Mitterrand calling Mao a genius and then denying the famine component of the Communist genocide of 70 million people is absolutely shameful, a claim that would never be made by anyone without a red agenda. Why this is relevant is that Hollande has repeatedly said Mitterrand was a truly great leader, and Hollande openly emulates many of Mitterrand's policies. When you then realise that Mitterrand visited with Mao and describes Mao as a genius, you realise the kind of man Hollande respects. Why this is relevant to Yingluck, is that she herself came to power on a sea of Maoist rhetoric, power to the farmers, death to the elites, agrarian populism, communist red imagery and face-imagery, UDD magazine's article on Lenin etc. Yingluck's election was based on communist-rhetoric populism. For that reason I am not at all surprised she was embraced by the pro-red Hollande who emulates his communist hero Mitterrand's policies. Why it becomes offensive to me is when Hollande refers to Yingluck's "democracy commitments", because Yingluck's PTP has actually taken some major steps away from democracy in their first year, they breach UDHR and avoid debate etc. and really they are more in common with the 20th century communist dictatorships than any kind of 21st century 'democracy commitment'. yes, socialist is communists under a different name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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