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I rely on this service back home to alert me of certain things.

Can't seem to find any information on if it's possible in Thailand. Some old threads seem to indicate it used to be offered but isn't anymore. Others seem to indicate it's an extra service that needs to be added. Neither really answers the question conclusively. Preferrably on AIS 1-2 call but I would switch carriers if I had to. It's that important to me.

The exact term is email to SMS gateway and all the telcos in North America seem to offer this. It has to be email because the messages come from an online service that only sends to email addresses.

If I can't do that I would have to figure out a way to do it by keeping cell data enabled all the time and only have the cell phone alarm go off when these particular emails come in. Probably a way to do this elegantly on Android 4 but sending to SMS would be much more ideal for me.

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If these messages are that important, 500 baht or so per month for a gigabyte+ "data" plan will allow you to push your emails immediately to your cell phone. The plus side is that you get them in their intended format and you can respond if necessary. Also, text messaging is limited to 160 characters per message (don't quote me on this).

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If these messages are that important, 500 baht or so per month for a gigabyte+ "data" plan will allow you to push your emails immediately to your cell phone. The plus side is that you get them in their intended format and you can respond if necessary. Also, text messaging is limited to 160 characters per message (don't quote me on this).

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But I don't need my emails pushed to me. What I can do is create a new email account just for this and only have my phone alert me when this account gets emails. To keep bandwidth down I would probably only have it set to sync with this account. I don't need to spend money getting thousands of spam emails pushed to me every day on my other accounts. There are a few different ways to do this in Android 4 I think (as I am now starting to read about it) that should work ok. Don't see why I would need a gigabyte+ data plan for that though.

But I want to try do it with SMS if possible. The email things is plan b.

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If these messages are that important, 500 baht or so per month for a gigabyte+ "data" plan will allow you to push your emails immediately to your cell phone. The plus side is that you get them in their intended format and you can respond if necessary. Also, text messaging is limited to 160 characters per message (don't quote me on this).

Shawn

But I don't need my emails pushed to me. What I can do is create a new email account just for this and only have my phone alert me when this account gets emails. To keep bandwidth down I would probably only have it set to sync with this account. I don't need to spend money getting thousands of spam emails pushed to me every day on my other accounts. There are a few different ways to do this in Android 4 I think (as I am now starting to read about it) that should work ok. Don't see why I would need a gigabyte+ data plan for that though.

But I want to try do it with SMS if possible. The email things is plan b.

You seem to want to do things ass about face, so don't listen to the advice on here as you have it all figured out already.

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But I want to try do it with SMS if possible. The email things is plan b.

Can you describe your application requirement(s) in as much detail as possible?

Do you want to originate an SMS, perhaps here in Thailand, and have it delivered to another person as an email?

Do you want to originate an email, perhaps here in Thailand, and have it delivered to another person anywhere as an SMS?

Do you want to have SMSes sent to your phone(s) forwarded to you as emails?

Do you want to have emails sent to you forwarded as SMSes?

Just about anything is possible but it helps to understand what it is that you actually want to do.

For the best solution you will likely have to pay for it. Telemessage is but one provider of email-SMS solutions. You can originate an email and have it delivered as an SMS, any reply/in-bound SMS can also be delivered as an SMS and/or email.

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If these messages are that important, 500 baht or so per month for a gigabyte+ "data" plan will allow you to push your emails immediately to your cell phone. The plus side is that you get them in their intended format and you can respond if necessary. Also, text messaging is limited to 160 characters per message (don't quote me on this).

Shawn

But I don't need my emails pushed to me. What I can do is create a new email account just for this and only have my phone alert me when this account gets emails. To keep bandwidth down I would probably only have it set to sync with this account. I don't need to spend money getting thousands of spam emails pushed to me every day on my other accounts. There are a few different ways to do this in Android 4 I think (as I am now starting to read about it) that should work ok. Don't see why I would need a gigabyte+ data plan for that though.

But I want to try do it with SMS if possible. The email things is plan b.

You seem to want to do things ass about face, so don't listen to the advice on here as you have it all figured out already.

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He asked a valid question. If you don't have an answer, or even understand the need, better put a sock in it. No one cares if you think it's ass about face or otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia....of_SMS_gateways - unfortunately, no info on Thailand

http://www.thaivisa....to-sms-gateway/ - previous thread on Thai Visa for email to AIS SMS

Search for SMS gateway, you'll find more.

Edit: I got interested in this, and looked a bit deeper. Unfortunately, Thailand seems to be omitted from every list of free SMS gateways I found. DTAC and AIS used to allow the service, but apparently have discontinued. That said, I'm sure you can find a paid service, since the need exists, and SMS can be sent from abroad with ease. You may have to search, but I'm sure it's there.

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With the data plan, you can set it up to sync with only one email account. That means anything that goes to that special email address will immediately notify you, just like sms. Everything else can be ignored. If that account has spam, you can even filter the messages so you only get important emails. You probably don't even need a gig+ data plan. That was just for reference. For example, I have 3 email accounts synced on my android phone. I get emails all day long, the battery lasts all day and I use very little data for syncing. Of course, that's irrelevant because I use my phone just as much as my laptop for other Internet activities.

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With the data plan, you can set it up to sync with only one email account. That means anything that goes to that special email address will immediately notify you, just like sms. Everything else can be ignored. If that account has spam, you can even filter the messages so you only get important emails. You probably don't even need a gig+ data plan. That was just for reference. For example, I have 3 email accounts synced on my android phone. I get emails all day long, the battery lasts all day and I use very little data for syncing. Of course, that's irrelevant because I use my phone just as much as my laptop for other Internet activities.

Shawn

I think he wants to avoid having to have data on all the time, and the additional expense of syncing/using data. In any case, it seems to me that when someone asks a specific question, we ought to give the benefit of the doubt that he/she knows what they want, and refrain from trying to talk them into other solutions (that are NOT what they asked for). And we should CERTAINLY not take offense when they explain that your offered solution is NOT what they were asking for. And when you're not even the one being asked, well, don't get me started...

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In several re-reads it doesn't appear that SMS is really in any way a requirement other than perhaps to guarantee more timely delivery of emails, and perhaps to avoid paying for a data plan?

If the goal is it insure timely receipt of emails then one really needs a volume-based, which is "always on", mobile data plan. With One-2-Call they offer a 500 MB plan for 250 baht or a 1 GB plan for 350 baht (per month, exclusive of 7% VAT).

Most Android email clients allow for multiple email accounts - I have seven (7) with the default SGS2 Samsung email client, however the minimum default pull time on my SGS2 native client is 15 minutes. Depending on the exact application requirements the OP may want to look for a client which offers a shorter pull period, at least for the one required email account.

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In several re-reads it doesn't appear that SMS is really in any way a requirement other than perhaps to guarantee more timely delivery of emails, and perhaps to avoid paying for a data plan?

If the goal is it insure timely receipt of emails then one really needs a volume-based, which is "always on", mobile data plan. With One-2-Call they offer a 500 MB plan for 250 baht or a 1 GB plan for 350 baht (per month, exclusive of 7% VAT).

Most Android email clients allow for multiple email accounts - I have seven (7) with the default SGS2 Samsung email client, however the minimum default pull time on my SGS2 native client is 15 minutes. Depending on the exact application requirements the OP may want to look for a client which offers a shorter pull period, at least for the one required email account.

If these messages are that important, 500 baht or so per month for a gigabyte+ "data" plan will allow you to push your emails immediately to your cell phone. The plus side is that you get them in their intended format and you can respond if necessary. Also, text messaging is limited to 160 characters per message (don't quote me on this).

Shawn

But I don't need my emails pushed to me. What I can do is create a new email account just for this and only have my phone alert me when this account gets emails. To keep bandwidth down I would probably only have it set to sync with this account. I don't need to spend money getting thousands of spam emails pushed to me every day on my other accounts. There are a few different ways to do this in Android 4 I think (as I am now starting to read about it) that should work ok. Don't see why I would need a gigabyte+ data plan for that though.

But I want to try do it with SMS if possible. The email things is plan b.

Emphasis added by me.

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In several re-reads it doesn't appear that SMS is really in any way a requirement other than perhaps to guarantee more timely delivery of emails, and perhaps to avoid paying for a data plan?

If the goal is it insure timely receipt of emails then one really needs a volume-based, which is "always on", mobile data plan. With One-2-Call they offer a 500 MB plan for 250 baht or a 1 GB plan for 350 baht (per month, exclusive of 7% VAT).

Most Android email clients allow for multiple email accounts - I have seven (7) with the default SGS2 Samsung email client, however the minimum default pull time on my SGS2 native client is 15 minutes. Depending on the exact application requirements the OP may want to look for a client which offers a shorter pull period, at least for the one required email account.

If these messages are that important, 500 baht or so per month for a gigabyte+ "data" plan will allow you to push your emails immediately to your cell phone. The plus side is that you get them in their intended format and you can respond if necessary. Also, text messaging is limited to 160 characters per message (don't quote me on this).

Shawn

But I don't need my emails pushed to me. What I can do is create a new email account just for this and only have my phone alert me when this account gets emails. To keep bandwidth down I would probably only have it set to sync with this account. I don't need to spend money getting thousands of spam emails pushed to me every day on my other accounts. There are a few different ways to do this in Android 4 I think (as I am now starting to read about it) that should work ok. Don't see why I would need a gigabyte+ data plan for that though.

But I want to try do it with SMS if possible. The email things is plan b.

Emphasis added by me.

Understood. I think without clarity on the application, and even some volume, it may be challenging to offer up a single best solution. A reliable email to SMS service, while potentially offering shorter delivery time windows, may ultimately cost more than a volume-based data plan.

Any free email to SMS service is unreliable, IME and all of the local service providers shut down their open email-SMS gateways ~ 5 years ago. I assume the OP thinks they may have services like those offered by AT&T or T-Mo in the U.S. where one can use an email address like [email protected] and have that delivered as an SMS. Of course in the U.S. one pays for in-coming SMSes.

Offering alternatives, along with additional information, hardly seems to be unacceptable behavior?

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Again... emails synced to your phone will notify you immediately. Send me an email and it pops up on my phone without a wait period of several minutes. It doesn't take much data to keep a connection alive so you won't be spending much on the plan. You can even use the data plan to browse ThaiVisa every once in a while, or respond to this thread, if you feel the need to be connected. SMS technology was great but it has evolved, much like the way of the pager. Sure, pagers can still be used for certain applications but a data-enabled phone can do the same with more flexibility. I looked at SMS gateways too before I came to Thailand but as mentioned, they are not free. Most US carriers still allow free incoming text messages so you're accustomed to that system but it's not the same here. There's a reason a lot of people in Asia use mobile instant-messaging services (data required) for communications instead of SMS. These mobile apps, such as WhatsApp and Line allow people to communicate without the text-message-size limitations. They can also send videos/files/pictures via the program. Data is so prevalent in the city that you may be able to get away with no data plan - just set your phone to use open wifi hotspots or jump into a coffee shop once in a while. At 2baht per text message, if a person sends one thousand text messages per month, it would be enough to pay for an unlimited data plan. Believe me, some people can send many thousands of messages over the course of a month.

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Again... emails synced to your phone will notify you immediately.

Gmail, in the Android environment, does push email so assuming you have your account set to synch, and have a data connection then you should get instant notification/delivery. It does work reliably in my experience, and is nearly instantaneous

My Samsung email widget, which allows one to have many different email accounts (including multiple GMail accounts), requires pulling (polling?) on some chosen frequency, which can vary by account. Upon further review I see that my email widget allows for a polling down to every 5 minutes.

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Understood. I think without clarity on the application, and even some volume, it may be challenging to offer up a single best solution. A reliable email to SMS service, while potentially offering shorter delivery time windows, may ultimately cost more than a volume-based data plan.

Any free email to SMS service is unreliable, IME and all of the local service providers shut down their open email-SMS gateways ~ 5 years ago. I assume the OP thinks they may have services like those offered by AT&T or T-Mo in the U.S. where one can use an email address like [email protected] and have that delivered as an SMS. Of course in the U.S. one pays for in-coming SMSes.

Offering alternatives, along with additional information, hardly seems to be unacceptable behavior?

Cheers lomatopo, it wasn't aimed at you.

I agree with all of the above, and especially that offering alternatives is helpful, especially if you understand the question (which you clearly do). But some folks apparently can't or won't read the OP's posts, and get pissy when, after a bunch of answers that don't address his question, he clarifies it.

Whether the data plan and Android email solution fits his needs can only be determined by the OP. Hopefully, he understands how GMAIL pushes email, rather than having to poll...

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Setup your own SMS gateway with an old Nokia & a prepaid sim card. I think there are many cheap/free software utilities out there and even MS Outlook can do email to SMS which you could probably automate by adding rules.

I don't think anyone in Thailand will offer a free SMS gateway without some catch, otherwise all the spammers would use it.

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Understood. I think without clarity on the application, and even some volume, it may be challenging to offer up a single best solution. A reliable email to SMS service, while potentially offering shorter delivery time windows, may ultimately cost more than a volume-based data plan.

Any free email to SMS service is unreliable, IME and all of the local service providers shut down their open email-SMS gateways ~ 5 years ago. I assume the OP thinks they may have services like those offered by AT&T or T-Mo in the U.S. where one can use an email address like [email protected] and have that delivered as an SMS. Of course in the U.S. one pays for in-coming SMSes.

Offering alternatives, along with additional information, hardly seems to be unacceptable behavior?

Cheers lomatopo, it wasn't aimed at you.

I agree with all of the above, and especially that offering alternatives is helpful, especially if you understand the question (which you clearly do). But some folks apparently can't or won't read the OP's posts, and get pissy when, after a bunch of answers that don't address his question, he clarifies it.

Whether the data plan and Android email solution fits his needs can only be determined by the OP. Hopefully, he understands how GMAIL pushes email, rather than having to poll...

Well, look who is getting pissy now..

The point is the person did offer an alternative which was shot down by the OP.

As was mentioned by others the easiest way would be to set up a separate gmail account to be used with android (you can attach multiple accounts),or another provider using imap, then the emails would be pushed when they come through.

If he has an android phone already (guessing by his posts he does) then I'm sure a data account would be present, otherwise what is the point of having an android phone ?

The problem is, which is evident from the OP and reply, is that the poster does not want to 'move with the times' , instead he wants to stick to using some backwards outdated method and not listen to what most people are currently doing.

For clarification, all you seem to have done is confirm what the first person replied, which was NOT what the OP wanted... like I said in my post he knows what he wants and pushed emails isn't it. There was no point in your replies, or this one of mine.

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Ok I think I have it figured out. Free does not look like an option but it can be done with a paid service such as this.

http://www.clickatell.com/

Works in Thailand, Cambodia, PI, Indonesia etc.....but if I am reading their pricing right it's 80 cents a message. Still doable for me as these are emergency messages I rarely get but I must be able to get them 24hrs a day no matter where in the world I am or what I am doing.

Tried testing plan B which is email on my Android 4 phone yesterday. Works pretty good. There are a few ways to do it but the best way seems to be to set up a free gmail account just for this (which won't get much if any spam). As an added measure against false alerts I set up gmail email inbox on android to default to gmail priority inbox. On the gmail end I set up a filter to ONLY forward the messages i know are the emergency messages to the priority inbox. I can do this by setting the filter to the "from" email address or to keywords in subject/message or both which I did. That should prevent any unimportant emails from setting off the alarm and would probably work with existing email accounts I have as well.

I have an app called ICS enhanced ring control. It allows me to isolate email messages so they are the only things that set off a particular ring tone set at max volume + vibrate. All other things are set to different volumes and ring tone. You would think Android 4 can do this without the app but turns out it can't. At least it can't with SMS which is why I got the app.

I think that about covers it. Only thing is I have to leave data enabled all the time when not around WiFi which eats the battery faster and costs a bit for data. So I downloaded a free app called Onavo which monitors and reports data usage by app so I can go through and turn off everything I don't need eating background data except for email. Also disabled email sync for all accounts except this new gmail account.

Lastly, I installed another free app called WiFi on on Power. When I go into my room usually the first thing I do is plug in my phone to the USB charger which will turn on the WiFi so I won't be eating data plan cost during that time. When I unplug it to go out the app turns off WiFi.

Phew, sounds harder than it was. Took me about 2 hours to figure out and test so not too bad I guess. I'll probably end up doing both SMS and email just to be sure. I know in Thailand once in awhile I won't get SMS messages for several minutes or even hours sometimes. But I figure push email won't have that problem. Gmail always get's emails right away so it's just a matter of pushing it through the internet to my phone. So if I do both I should be covered no matter what.

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Ok I think I have it figured out. Free does not look like an option but it can be done with a paid service such as this.

http://www.clickatell.com/

Works in Thailand, Cambodia, PI, Indonesia etc.....but if I am reading their pricing right it's 80 cents a message. Still doable for me as these are emergency messages I rarely get but I must be able to get them 24hrs a day no matter where in the world I am or what I am doing.

Telemessage charges $0.13 per message (email, voicemail) delivered as SMS to Thailand, it works as a pre-paid service where you buy credits for an account. We've used this service for years and it works well although it is becoming a bit long in the tooth. It is being replaced by solutions which utilize always on data, IM, voice (recorded or live), video (recorded or live), attachment and the written word.

Evidently you have a One-2-Call pre-paid SIM? Which data plan, if any, have you subscribed to to cover those times when you are outside of WiFi coverage? Note that if you do not have a data plan you will be paying one baht per minute regardless of whether you are using data hence the recommendation for a volume-based mobile data plan. Time-based plans (with One-2-Call) are speed-limited to 384 Kbps while volume-based plans allow for the use 0f 3G, where available assuming your phone supports 900 MHz 3G.

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Ok I think I have it figured out. Free does not look like an option but it can be done with a paid service such as this.

http://www.clickatell.com/

Works in Thailand, Cambodia, PI, Indonesia etc.....but if I am reading their pricing right it's 80 cents a message. Still doable for me as these are emergency messages I rarely get but I must be able to get them 24hrs a day no matter where in the world I am or what I am doing.

Telemessage charges $0.13 per message (email, voicemail) delivered as SMS to Thailand, it works as a pre-paid service where you buy credits for an account. We've used this service for years and it works well although it is becoming a bit long in the tooth. It is being replaced by solutions which utilize always on data, IM, voice (recorded or live), video (recorded or live), attachment and the written word.

Evidently you have a One-2-Call pre-paid SIM? Which data plan, if any, have you subscribed to to cover those times when you are outside of WiFi coverage? Note that if you do not have a data plan you will be paying one baht per minute regardless of whether you are using data hence the recommendation for a volume-based mobile data plan. Time-based plans (with One-2-Call) are speed-limited to 384 Kbps while volume-based plans allow for the use 0f 3G, where available assuming your phone supports 900 MHz 3G.

1 baht a minute! That's highway robbery...or to put it another way, business as usual when it comes to telcos. Is that something new? Yes I have 1-2 call but if memory serves me correctly it included data and is (was) a fairly standard thing. Nothing special.

You sure it's not 1 baht per megabyte? I'm pretty sure they had that type of option or at least they used to.

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1 baht a minute! That's highway robbery...or to put it another way, business as usual when it comes to telcos. Is that something new? Yes I have 1-2 call but if memory serves me correctly it included data and is (was) a fairly standard thing. Nothing special.

You sure it's not 1 baht per megabyte? I'm pretty sure they had that type of option or at least they used to.

I sort of guessed you were unaware of the potential issues of not having some sort of mobile data plan. Yes, unless you have subscribed to a mobile data plan your account will be debited 1 baht per minute when connected. This is why we almost always recommend volume-based data plans. And this is why we ask so many questions to clarify the exact details of the application, and I haven't asked what brand/model phone you have, yet wink.png. Time-based plans look alluring but they also charge 1 baht/min. once you go over your monthly allowance - these should only be used in dial-up applications with an aircard. And One-2-Call's volume-based plans, up to and including 2 GB/550 baht. charge 2 baht/MB once you go over your volume allotment.

For full service, prepaid Happy (DTAC) and/or TrueMove H may currently offer better "unlimited" data plans? You can port numbers here if necessary.

http://www.ais.co.th/mobileinternet/en/internet-package/#2

http://www.happy.co.th/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=333&Itemid=368〈=en

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1 baht a minute! That's highway robbery...or to put it another way, business as usual when it comes to telcos. Is that something new? Yes I have 1-2 call but if memory serves me correctly it included data and is (was) a fairly standard thing. Nothing special.

You sure it's not 1 baht per megabyte? I'm pretty sure they had that type of option or at least they used to.

I sort of guessed you were unaware of the potential issues of not having some sort of mobile data plan. Yes, unless you have subscribed to a mobile data plan your account will be debited 1 baht per minute when connected. This is why we almost always recommend volume-based data plans. And this is why we ask so many questions to clarify the exact details of the application, and I haven't asked what brand/model phone you have, yet wink.png. Time-based plans look alluring but they also charge 1 baht/min. once you go over your monthly allowance - these should only be used in dial-up applications with an aircard. And One-2-Call's volume-based plans, up to and including 2 GB/550 baht. charge 2 baht/MB once you go over your volume allotment.

For full service, prepaid Happy (DTAC) and/or TrueMove H may currently offer better "unlimited" data plans? You can port numbers here if necessary.

http://www.ais.co.th...rnet-package/#2

http://www.happy.co....mid=368〈=en

I've always used AIS just because I think their coverage is better in general.

As far as I can tell from the website I need a 3G multiSIM which works with 1-2 call, and gives me 1GB/month which should be plenty. Looks like it's gonna cost 50 + 300baht a month which is no big deal. I think that might have been what I had last time. Leaving the phone on all day and night syncing to the email account only used 250KB and I won't be on data when in the hotel room so 1GB should be plenty. AIS also has free WiFi all over the place.

http://www.ais.co.th...t/en/multi-sim/

The phone is an HTC Incredible S. I also have an AIS 3G aircard for the laptop when WiFi in the hotel goes down. That one can be on the 1 or 2 baht per minute deal.

Thanks for pointing out Telemessage lomatopo. Much better rates to Thailand.

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^ OK, now you are literally all over the map. That SIM and plan is a post-paid, contract plan.

Do you have a pre-paid, One-2-Call SIM? Or a post-paid AIS (GSM Advance) SIM? Do you understand the difference?

I suspect you have a pre-paid One-2-Call SIM. In which case you can subscribe to a mobile data plan, detail provided via a link already.

There are two (or three) versions of the HTC Incredible S. Not sure if your version supports 900 MHz 3G, which is what AIS/One-2-Call uses, or if you even need 3G.

Good luck, I'm certain you'll get sorted out.

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^ OK, now you are literally all over the map. That SIM and plan is a post-paid, contract plan.

Do you have a pre-paid, One-2-Call SIM? Or a post-paid AIS (GSM Advance) SIM? Do you understand the difference?

I suspect you have a pre-paid One-2-Call SIM. In which case you can subscribe to a mobile data plan, detail provided via a link already.

There are two (or three) versions of the HTC Incredible S. Not sure if your version supports 900 MHz 3G, which is what AIS/One-2-Call uses, or if you even need 3G.

Good luck, I'm certain you'll get sorted out.

My HTC Incredible S radio works with AIS including 3G. I know that for sure. Like I said I have 1-2 call. My Aircard also has 1-2 call. How is that all over the map? MultiSIM said it works with 1-2 call. I'm just reading from their website. If that is not the right one then that's my mistake. It's not exactly obvious from their website half of which is in Thai with no translation.

Thanks for the link. Different plan but same price so we are still good. I just go to the AIS store in the airport and get the girls do to it all for me anyways. They all speak good english, know their way around an Android phone better than most computer geeks, and always know just what I need after 1 or 2 questions and do everything for me on the phone and typing in all the codes and doing all the activations. They really seem to know what they are doing.

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Actually it just remembered it only works with AIS Edge and that was the reason I got the 3g Aircard. It's all coming back to me ....slowly.

Not a problem for email alert which is all I need the data for.

This was another reason I wanted to originally use SMS for my alerts. So I wouldn't have to figure all this stuff out.

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