PETERTHEEATER Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Graft doesn't need 'rooting out' it's floating on the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aatsi Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 If this come to be some day true all police workers must keep for example STOP CORRUPTION badge, embroidery in uniform and use Stop Corruption printed t-shirt minimum 3 years and if some one officer demand or ask corrupt money is it possible get fired and punishment. But just in case this is not any joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchholz Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) What an absolute joke!!! Why do the PTP still spill this crap? This country will never be considered more than a third world, when corruption starts at the very top. Perhaps it is a joke as Yingluck laughs the last time the Stop Corruption mantra was tossed around..... 3 months ago (deja vu) Yingluck launches anti-corruption campaign Posted 2012-05-19 http://www.thaivisa....ption-campaign/ Meanwhile, we await her great efforts at rectifying, but one example: Disaster Relief Plan Mired In Graft http://www.thaivisa....d-in-graft-dsi/ Edited August 16, 2012 by Buchholz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silsburyhill Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) If the government was serious about even starting tacking the corruption it should double or triple the salaries of government officials and servants, including the police officers FIRSTThis old chestnut again. It's far too late. They would simply take the increased salary and keep topping up with their corrupt practices.. Then issue a "code of conduct" making it clear what practices are forbidden. Then enforce the regulation and start sacking if not jailing people acting in the old ways. Issuing of a code of conduct I would have thought to have been a 'given' when first being accepted for the job to enforce their laws. 'And start sacking/jailing' [sic]. Well. They've had plenty of time to do that and it's never happened and never will.My personal recommendation, for what it's worth, is for the government to do some field trips to see how other countries have successfully reduced, if not totally eliminated, their own corruption. But this will never happen either. Edited August 16, 2012 by silsburyhill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Does this mean that 'yet another' to be implemented in the first year policy can be ticked-off? Just in time to include in the report being made up I guess. BTW note the rigorously enforce law to deal with corruption by government officers 1.3 Earnestly prevent and fight against corruption in the public sector by adhering to transparency and good governance which are universally accepted norms to ensure the effective use of resources for national development and true benefits to the nation; amend laws with a view to preventing and fighting against corruption; broaden the enforcement of legislation regarding prohibition of conflicts of interest to include persons who abuse power arising from their important and high positions without exception; rigorously enforce law to deal with corruption by government officers; strengthen morals, ethics and good governance of state personnel;and, foster consciousness and values of society which uphold integrity and justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Every day an April Fools Day situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MengWan Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Hmmm, the sister of the most corrupt man (no longer allowed) in the country, is spearheading legislation on corruption, after bungling the extradition of this same criminal. I suppose this is why the smile of "Vorawit" looks so ironic ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mosha Posted August 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2012 Garland Greene: Define irony. Bunch of idiots prancing on a stage vowing to stop something their hero was renowned for (Apologies to Con Air) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I have been in and out of the country so many times. Not once has any of the immigration officers ask me for money. Thailand is completely clean since Mark control. Still on the wacky baccy I see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narratio Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I'm still looking for a "Duuuuh!" Face slap icon. . Okay, I'll settle for this. "Thai Government to stop corruption!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrooks Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Maybe this will be just like their victory at the Olympics this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 a bit hypocrite as you know any politician is for sale ... one cost of course more than another one ... but hey, you can also get group discounts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefb1964 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Nice... if it becomes more than just another slogan. Or maybe we have to look at it like my wife does when she says : Don't expect anything. After all these years I still don't know what she exactly means with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 (edited) Nice... if it becomes more than just another slogan. Or maybe we have to look at it like my wife does when she says : Don't expect anything. After all these years I still don't know what she exactly means with it. Mentioned it to mine and she laughrd out loud. Edited August 16, 2012 by Mosha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Graft doesn't need 'rooting out' it's floating on the surface. I thought it was official government-policy, or a pre-election promise ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshiwara Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The veritable foundation stones of this government are built on the corruption of Thaksin and the objective is to tilt the whole body politic in his direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefb1964 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Nice... if it becomes more than just another slogan. Or maybe we have to look at it like my wife does when she says : Don't expect anything. After all these years I still don't know what she exactly means with it. Mentioned it to mine and she laughrd out loud. By her reaction I'd think she understands what my wife exactly means. If you'd find out one day before I do, please don't hesitate sharing your knowledge with me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Nice... if it becomes more than just another slogan. Or maybe we have to look at it like my wife does when she says : Don't expect anything. After all these years I still don't know what she exactly means with it. Mentioned it to mine and she laughrd out loud. By her reaction I'd think she understands what my wife exactly means. If you'd find out one day before I do, please don't hesitate sharing your knowledge with me... Mines a southerner from Nakhon Sri Thammerat. They are despised down here, by the vast majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiawatcher Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 When the country is bring run by a corrupt puppet master? Does any real Thai believe this crap? Obviously every red does. Wake up Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadi8253 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 What the hell you / they are talking about? Corruption in Thailand is illegal and does not exist same as prostitution is illegal and does not exist ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted August 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2012 The Western "To Big To Fail Banks" and their crony elected officials in Western governments have corruption honed to a science. The corruption in Thailand is third-world child's play compared to what the Wall Street and London white shoe boys pull off. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabel Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 What an absolute joke!!! Why do the PTP still spill this crap? This country will never be considered more than a third world, when corruption starts at the very top. But isn't the New "Easy Bribe" card a proof of all this ....??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 The Western "To Big To Fail Banks" and their crony elected officials in Western governments have corruption honed to a science. The corruption in Thailand is third-world child's play compared to what the Wall Street and London white shoe boys pull off. UNfortunately this is not about Western banks, like Standard Chartered which just settled a money laundering probe in the States for a measly $340 million. The topic is "Thai government to unveil 'stop corruption' ratification". Mind you I didn't know a government would need to 'ratify' implementation of local laws or even push for strictly following them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 She will never spearhead anything. This scheme will be another bag full of hot air like her previous anti corruption hot air. All the beneficiaries are known to her Beg to disagree. I feel very sure of my self when I say she will spearhead a drive to wipe it out sort of. What she will really be doing is her brothers wishes. Make it like he had it have it all come through her office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 She will never spearhead anything. This scheme will be another bag full of hot air like her previous anti corruption hot air. All the beneficiaries are known to her Beg to disagree. I feel very sure of my self when I say she will spearhead a drive to wipe it out sort of. What she will really be doing is her brothers wishes. Make it like he had it have it all come through her office. You mean is in "stop widespread, unmanageble corruption; concentrate it where it can be ..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thai Government and Anti-corruption. Aren't they Oxymoron terms Yes, kind of along the lines of: Military Intelligence.. and by the by, it's: tipoffs not tipsoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clowsley Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Why would anyone in their right mind implicate themselves in an anti graft case against themselves. It will never get off the ground. Unless you grease someones hand or maybe they could bribe themselves. The whole adminstration system will collapse in chaos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notime Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 If the government was serious about even starting tacking the corruption it should double or triple the salaries of government officials and servants, including the police officers FIRSTThis old chestnut again. It's far too late. They would simply take the increased salary and keep topping up with their corrupt practices.. Then issue a "code of conduct" making it clear what practices are forbidden. Then enforce the regulation and start sacking if not jailing people acting in the old ways. Issuing of a code of conduct I would have thought to have been a 'given' when first being accepted for the job to enforce their laws. 'And start sacking/jailing' [sic]. Well. They've had plenty of time to do that and it's never happened and never will.My personal recommendation, for what it's worth, is for the government to do some field trips to see how other countries have successfully reduced, if not totally eliminated, their own corruption. But this will never happen either. Did you you call me "old chestnut" or what? Applying your own logic to what you "personally recommended" I could say that the government officials would gladly do "some field trips" to other countries to learn about their anti-corruption efforts, at the cost of tax payer of course, just to come back and still do the same as usually. So, who is the old chestnut here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) <p> The Western "To Big To Fail Banks" and their crony elected officials in Western governments have corruption honed to a science. The corruption in Thailand is third-world child's play compared to what the Wall Street and London white shoe boys pull off. UNfortunately this is not about Western banks, like Standard Chartered which just settled a money laundering probe in the States for a measly $340 million. The topic is "Thai government to unveil 'stop corruption' ratification". Mind you I didn't know a government would need to 'ratify' implementation of local laws or even push for strictly following them What I find interesting is that in Thailand (and many third-world and emerging counties) the "corruption is pervasive throughout the social strata. We can see it in many forms: bribery at a traffic% Edited August 17, 2012 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) <p> The Western "To Big To Fail Banks" and their crony elected officials in Western governments have corruption honed to a science. The corruption in Thailand is third-world child's play compared to what the Wall Street and London white shoe boys pull off. UNfortunately this is not about Western banks, like Standard Chartered which just settled a money laundering probe in the States for a measly $340 million. The topic is "Thai government to unveil 'stop corruption' ratification". Mind you I didn't know a government would need to 'ratify' implementation of local laws or even push for strictly following them What I find interesting is that in Thailand (and many third-world and emerging counties) the "corruption is pervasive throughout the social strata. We can see it in many forms: bribery at a traffic% What I find interesting is that in Thailand (and many third-world and emerging counties) the "corruption is pervasive throughout the social strata. We can see it in many forms: bribery at a traffic stop, tea money at the Land Office to “expedite” paperwork, tuk tuk and jet ski scams, up through skimming government contracts and “compensating” rural villager to vote for a certain candidate. In the Western world corruption has sort of “risen to the top”, like surface scum in a septic system. Pervasive corruption has been eradicated, only to be replace by a more insidious form: Corpocracy or classically defined Fascism (merger of corporation and government interests for the sole benefit to both). In Western cultures, there is an internal moral relativism where the vast majority of the population abide by a moral code, whereas their governments and corporation ride roughshod over anything that doesn’t produce a profit or monetary incentive (executive bonuses, campaign contributions…). Laws are passed to make morally questionable issues legal, e.g., restrict individual contributions to political candidates but enact laws to allow unlimited corporate donations via Political Actions Committees, or judicial entities enforce laws unequally, e.g., a “street hustler” goes to jail for conning a “mark in a game of three card monty, but “connected” individuals such as the “(less than) honorable” Jon Stevens Corzine can misappropriate (vaporize) 1.2 billion dollars of client funds and walk away without any judicial scrutiny. Thailand simply has not “matured” enough to embrace that level of corruption that is endemic in Western countries. They will first have to rein in the lower level of society: the tuk tuk and jet ski scammers, the police officer, the land office official as they merge corporate and government interests into one and make those things that are illegal – well, legal for those in the upper echelon of Thai society. They are not there yet, but if they study their Western counterparts, I’m sure that they are on their way… Edited August 17, 2012 by connda 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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