wpcoe Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 http://www.tweaktown...gb_s/index.html I think some of the ISPs in Thailand now route some of their international traffic via Singapore, no? If so, will this new Singapore-Japan cable help with the limited bandwidth available to internet users in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notstupid30 Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 I don't know but my net freaking slow tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 it wont effect even a bit. Thaikand has direct lines to us and eu, none of them routed via japan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkleton Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) it wont effect even a bit. Thaikand has direct lines to us and eu, none of them routed via japan. Wrong! A traceroute to a popular german news site, shows the following: rDNS record for 213.61.13.70: www.bild.deTRACEROUTE (using proto 1/icmp) HOP RTT ADDRESS 1 1.00 ms fritz.box (192.168.1.3) 2 37.00 ms node-sg1.pool-101-109.dynamic.totbb.net (101.109.144.1) 3 35.00 ms 172.17.52.1 4 38.00 ms ten-0-15-4-0.kkm-core-03.totisp.net (203.114.118.85) 5 36.00 ms node-q.203-114-118.static.totisp.net (203.114.118.26) 6 41.00 ms po-215.kkm-ac-02.totiig.net (203.190.251.73) 7 51.00 ms po3-0-0.knl-gw-05.totiig.net (180.180.249.165) 8 68.00 ms POS4-0.gw5.sin1.asianetcom.net (202.147.33.209) 9 69.00 ms te0-0-2-0.wr1.sin0.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.109) 10 134.00 ms gi3-0-0.cr2.nrt1.asianetcom.net (61.14.157.158) 11 238.00 ms te0-1-0-6.gw2.lax3.asianetcom.net (202.147.0.62) 12 306.00 ms cr1.nyc.colt.net (206.223.115.199) 13 390.00 ms vl1450-iar1.FRA.router.colt.net (212.74.67.13) 14 389.00 ms 213.61.13.8 15 390.00 ms www.bild.de (213.61.13.70) IP Information for 61.14.157.109 IP Location: Japan Pacnet Services (japan) Corp. ASN: AS10026 Resolve Host: te0-0-2-0.wr1.sin0.asianetcom.net IP Address: 61.14.157.109 Here is a nice sea-cable map Edited August 22, 2012 by Turkleton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notstupid30 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Thanks for the info and map Turkleton, muratremix Where the bloody hell is Thaikand do you mean Thailand also lay of the kool aid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 A 100 more sea cables could be laid overnight and that don't mean Thai ISPs would buy any of that additional bandwidth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notstupid30 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 A 100 more sea cables could be laid overnight and that don't mean Thai ISPs would buy any of that additional bandwidth. Nah i don't think so and would be suprised as Thais companies like doing stuff on the cheap but changing high tariffs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muratremix Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Thanks for the info and map Turkleton, muratremix Where the bloody hell is Thaikand do you mean Thailand also lay of the kool aid I was writing via IPAD with Autocorrect off. I still insist Japan fiber cable won't help at all. Thailand - Japan connections are usually 1Gbit or lower. Most of the traffic routed via Singapore (True) or direct international links (TOT, CAT). Proper routing should be (for germany) via India -- Europe or atleast via Singapore -- Seabone -- Europe. Not japan - usa - europe! Of course this is thailand so don't expect any proper routing in your lifetime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel_tins Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Proper routing should be (for germany) via India -- Europe or atleast via Singapore -- Seabone -- Europe. Not japan - usa - europe!Of course this is thailand so don't expect any proper routing in your lifetime! I agree, this *should* be the proper routing and sometimes, that way is used. But almost every time, I do a traceroute, the packets are routed somewhere through the USA. Today, I did traceroutes to four servers in the Frankfurt area (+/- 200 Km). And I got four different routings from 13 up to 23 hops. Unfortunately the worst route is used to my home tv-server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pib Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I expect the routing boils down to what the cheapest bandwidth routing is....and I expect the cheapest routing varies frequently depending on the bandwidth deals/promotions/etc., offered by the undersea/land cable operators. If routing to Europe is cheaper by going through the U.S. compared to going the other/shorter direction, I wouldn't be surprised that Thai ISPs use the cheaper but longer routing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiebebe Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 it wont effect even a bit. Thaikand has direct lines to us and eu, none of them routed via japan. Check out this cool map of the world's internet cables, it was made by graphic designer Nicolas Rapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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