autan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 On the 12th October 2012 you can fly from Doha to Rangong on Qatar Airways. If you wanted to find an unspoilt shoreline. Great food. English speaking country in South East Asia, where the scenery is absolutly stunning and the prices of stuff is dirt cheap. Not to mention a 70/30 ratio of women to men. Can Thailand compete with its nearest neirbour, now the bamboo curtain has been lifted and the Junta has gone from Burma. Burma seems open for business and I expect the sex tourists might just pop in to see whats shaking that part Indian, part Chinese bodies. Its a question, its the Burma Question. Is Thailand too overdeveloped and too expensive to compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BookMan Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Burma has years and years to go before it compete with Thailand. Thailand has mass of infrastructure, access to good medical care, hotels etc. Thailand is of course overdeveloped in parts, but it is not that expensive. Burma has the potential to compete, with its virgin coastlines, but it will take years to develop. No reason to assume also that they will not over develop anyway Ill be going for a visit myself in the next 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autan Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Heres hoping you come back and not join the burmavisa.com forum if one exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Yes, but do they have Go-Go bars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pseudolus Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) I think there are a lot of people watching Burma closely. Has massive potential to shot past Thailand if the doors open up properly and become a regional power house again. but it really depends upon who they listen to and who they chose to get into bed with. The recent news about a load of thai getting banged up is an absolute positive for the country as the last country in the world they should think about having anything to do with from a financial / economical / industrial perspective is Thailand. You can see why Thailand would be interested in throwing it's weight around with their neighbour though; what better way to defeat a potential threat then to cripple it when its an infant? If they can ensure that the money they will inherit from free investment into the country is invested for the good of the country in infrastructure projects, and that no Thai's are involved in this at all there by 100% of the funds invested actually end up in the project as opposed to the Thai model of somewhere between 60-65% with the rest being in graft money, they will be the regional winner. First step would be to establish a true CBD, where all businesses will be together in a well planned zone with world class infrastructure supporting it. There will be a plethora of MNCs itching to get into there to pave the way as well. Just having a strong CBD would be enough to tempt many firms suffering in the Ghetto known as Bangkok to shift their HQ's. Burma / Myanmar has fantastic potential and I for one truly hope it works out well for them. Edited August 30, 2012 by Pseudolus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokburning Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Impossible to state what might happen.Thailsnd is already doing busines there but its food and agro as one might expect. Thailand wont get shit out of Myanmar, the Singaporeans have been there for years so if anyone gonna build plants, its them and surely the Chinese. Thailand will be lucky to fob off its 2nd hand vehicles. Thailand is not a player anywhere. It can sell rice and meat as well as fruit. Thailand really missed the boat. <deleted> is going to be built in a Thai-Myanmar factory? Did Thais move their factories to Cambodia or Lao? No Edited August 30, 2012 by bangkokburning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I think there are a lot of people watching Burma closely. Has massive potential to shot past Thailand if the doors open up properly and become a regional power house again. but it really depends upon who they listen to and who they chose to get into bed with. The recent news about a load of thai getting banged up is an absolute positive for the country as the last country in the world they should think about having anything to do with from a financial / economical / industrial perspective is Thailand. You can see why Thailand would be interested in throwing it's weight around with their neighbour though; what better way to defeat a potential threat then to cripple it when its an infant? If they can ensure that the money they will inherit from free investment into the country is invested for the good of the country in infrastructure projects, and that no Thai's are involved in this at all there by 100% of the funds invested actually end up in the project as opposed to the Thai model of somewhere between 60-65% with the rest being in graft money, they will be the regional winner. First step would be to establish a true CBD, where all businesses will be together in a well planned zone with world class infrastructure supporting it. There will be a plethora of MNCs itching to get into there to pave the way as well. Just having a strong CBD would be enough to tempt many firms suffering in the Ghetto known as Bangkok to shift their HQ's. Burma / Myanmar has fantastic potential and I for one truly hope it works out well for them. unfortunately for this theory - the Thai's have been doing business there for 15 years and are poised to be the biggest gainers from Myanamar opening up. Sahapat and PTT to name a few. But like many on TV who seem to get a kick out of, well, kicking, you let your desire to score points get in the way of any objectivity. While there is plenty of opporunity there, the infrastructure is about 30 years behind, laws are likely going to be as restricitve in many respects with regards to foreign investment and the country not yet being a signatory to international conventions such as the NY Convention on international arbitration is holding the country back. Downtown Yangon is already a traffic filled mess, and we haven't even started growing yet. Government commits 50 to 60% of the budget to military, meaning any Thai graft scenario you could possibly generate will be viewed as good business practice in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokburning Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Samran - so Thais gonna build infrastructure? Doubt, that will go to eithier Chinese or Koreans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) Samran - so Thais gonna build infrastructure? Doubt, that will go to eithier Chinese or Koreans. Koreans. They don't like the Chinese there..... No doubt, they'll play off all powers against each other. The government is good a divide and rule tactics. They are sucking up to the west at the moment, then they'll pivot, maybe throw the Chinese a bone, and then pivot back. But, the Thai's, Koreans and Japanese are probably best placed in the country. Edited August 30, 2012 by samran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) "Can Thailand compete with its nearest neirbour, now the bamboo curtain has been lifted and the Junta has gone from Burma" Where's the junta gone? They have a fixed number of seats in parliament and they can change the system back in a heartbeat. There is still serious unrest in Rakhine and Kachin areas, the Karen still want an independent state and many are fighting for it (led by leaders from Mae Sot). Don't think it all couldn't change back again.....the junta's gone nowhere! Edited August 30, 2012 by uptheos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatballs Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 How much are the hotels there? Can you stay long term with a visa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundman Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I have removed a bickering session. Please try to post, and interact with other board members in a civil manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Posted Today, 07:38On the 12th October 2012 you can fly from Doha to Rangong on Qatar Airways. If you wanted to find an unspoilt shoreline. Great food. English speaking country in South East Asia, where the scenery is absolutly stunning and the prices of stuff is dirt cheap. Not to mention a 70/30 ratio of women to men. Can Thailand compete with its nearest neirbour, now the bamboo curtain has been lifted and the Junta has gone from Burma. Burma seems open for business and I expect the sex tourists might just pop in to see whats shaking that part Indian, part Chinese bodies. Its a question, its the Burma Question. Is Thailand too overdeveloped and too expensive to compete. Guessing you haven't been to Myanmar. Not exactly the most widespread English speaking country, although it is spoken a little better/more than in Thailand. 70/30 ratio of women to men? Really? Plucking figures out of your imagination for a joke... ...and why the juvenile gutter remark about sex tourists? Part Indian, part Chinese bodies? Surely you are just having a laugh (or just having a troll) This thread is nonsense - mods please close it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 (edited) How much are the hotels there? Can you stay long term with a visa? meatballs - best to head over to the actual Myanmar Forum, those questions would be better answered there http://www.thaivisa....-myanmar-forum/ In brief - hotels are very limited, expensive compared to other countries in the region, and of a poorer standard. Long term stays are not permitted, unless you have a long term business visa supported by a relevant Ministry. Tourist visas are limited to 1 month..... Edited August 30, 2012 by SeaVisionBurma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovelaos Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Samran - so Thais gonna build infrastructure? Doubt, that will go to eithier Chinese or Koreans. There is a well known Thai company doing LOTS of work there as we speak. Seaport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Can you actually go to any of the beaches or islands there I was under the impression you are still restricted to certain places only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaVisionBurma Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Can you actually go to any of the beaches or islands there I was under the impression you are still restricted to certain places only Yes you can. Ayeyarwaddy Division From Yangon, there are 2 popular beach resort areas several hours drive away on the coast: Ngwe Saung beach and Chaungtha beach. Popular in the dry season, plenty of reasonably priced resorts (bungalow style) No restrictions on travelling there. Tanintharyi Division (Mergui Archipelago) Beautiful archipelago of some 800 islands in the South, just north of the border with Thailand. Entry is usually restricted to entry through Kawthoung only, through local tour companies/liveaboard operators. Cross over from Ranong. This area is the most restricted - access from Yangon is not easy, although it can be arranged with some effort or the right contacts. The only other area is Ngapali- but it is currently off limits... Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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