Corrupt Pheu Thai Govt Should Be Ousted, Pitak Siam Leader Says

[AleG]

Personally, I think this country would benefit from 10 years of communism.

Another form of authoritarianism. Yeah, good idea.

I am convinced that you know this is an impossible scenario.

You know what happened to the communists in this country, right?

More poignantly... look at what the communists did in the countries around Thailand. Not pretty.

[siampolee]

Personally, I think this country would benefit from 10 years of communism.

I wonder if KarenBravo has ever read the or heard the folk story , ''The Frog King? ''

Therein is a salutary lesson to be learnt KarenBravo.

Be careful for what you wish for you just might get it.

Edited October 25, 2012 by siampolee

[EvilDrSomkid]

Dug this up as a reminder of Thaksin and his cronies skewed views on democracy.

http://www.thaivisa....-is-not-my-goal

PM'S DECLARATION:'Democracy is not my goal'

Thaksin suggests he'll block any move for amendments to rein in his power

BANGKOK: Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra yesterday revealed for the first time the value he places on democracy, saying it was not the foremost thing Thailand needed.

In a candid statement made ominous by its release on Constitution Day, Thaksin said that as long as the country could progress and the people were happy, he was not concerned about the means used.

"Democracy is a good and beautiful thing, but it's not the ultimate goal as far as administering the country is concerned," he said. "Democracy is just a tool, not our goal. The goal is to give people a good lifestyle, happiness and national progress."

In a comment to counter calls for constitutional amend- ments that would support the sputtering checks-and-balances mechanism, the prime minister hinted that he would block the campaign to amend the charter, an issue that could cause a fall-out between him and his Chat Thai Party allies.

"Democracy is a vehicle," Thaksin said. "We can't drive a Rolls-Royce to a rural village and solve people's problems. A pickup truck or good off-road car will do. We just need to think carefully and make the right choices."

Amid threats of total domination by the ruling Thai Rak Thai Party, the minor coalition partner, academics and opposition MPs agree there is an urgent need to sharpen the teeth of independent constitutional bodies and empower a parliamentary system of checks and balances.

"I don't think there's a need to amend the charter right now," said Thaksin. "Maybe they want to because they want to censure me in Parliament."

Many rules within the Constitution are said to be playing into the hands of Thaksin as they seem to ease his on-going consolidation of power and expansionist philosophy. Among them is the requirement that a censure motion against the prime minister has to be signed by at least 200 MPs.

Before leaving for the Asean-Japan summit in Tokyo, Thaksin avoided actually naming the Chat Thai Party, which has proposed a public referendum to amend the Constitution coinciding with the 2005 general election.

"If they really want to do it for good reasons, why didn't they do it earlier when they had enough support in Parliament?" Thaksin said. "There's no real need to change the highest law at the moment. If we do have implementation problems, we can review the Constitution's organic laws."

The Chat Thai Party has set up a working group to review the Constitution. But the study could take a long time, its leader Banharn Silapa-archa confirmed yesterday, at the risk of upsetting his powerful ally.

"We are reviewing both the charter and organic laws, as we think that it's time to amend the Constitution," said Banharn. "But I can't say whether we can finish in time for the next election."

Chat Thai leaders have said the charter has failed to produce an adequate system of checks and balances in the political system, as a single party dominates Parliament and many independent constitutional bodies.

Once lauded as one of the best constitutions the country has had, the 1997 charter is seen by a growing number of critics as having failed to cope with the realities of Thai politics in the era of Thaksin's political and business empire.

Chat Thai wants all political parties represented when selecting members of key independent bodies, which have been under growing influence of Thai Rak Thai.

Snoh Thienthong, leader of the Wang Nam Yen faction of Thai Rak Thai, also alluded to support for constitutional amendment and suggested Thaksin was the reason to review the charter.

"The prime minister's thoughts run faster than the Constitution, so it might be necessary to change the law to keep up with him. He's a commander who moves faster than his army," Snoh said.

Former Constitution Drafting Assembly members who wrote the existing charter have backed calls for amendment to bolster the checks-and-balances mechanism before it falls apart.

"When we made it a rule that the censure motion must be submitted by at least 200 MPs, we never envisaged any party would one day have the staggering influence of 400 MPs in Parliament," said Decho Sawananont, one of the charter-drafters. "This hampers the opposition's work and the future looks bleak."

--The Nation 2003-12-11

Thanks for posting that. I bookmarked it.

The same situation described in that article is happening again today.

9 years later.

Jatuporn, Korkeaw, Natthawut etc. are just puppets spouting empty rhetoric about democracy and demagoguery.

Here come some more famous Thaksin quotes: http://thinkexist.co...sin_shinawatra/

Off topic, but this is a good one:

“If I were not a public figure, I wouldn't fly with Thai,”

Thaksin Shinawatra quote

[Rich teacher]

This government's popularity ratings are very high. People are happy with the PM and the general performance of the government. If an election was held tomorrow they would maintain their strong mandate. Then there are a few selfish, extremist groups who can't deal with the new reality that exists in their fairyland. They are prepared to inflict more pain on the Thai people in the vain hope that they can regain their undeserved place at the top of society.

Edited October 25, 2012 by soundman
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[h90]

_{This government's popularity ratings are very high. People are happy with the PM and the general performance of the government. If an election was held tomorrow they would maintain their strong mandate. Then there are a few selfish, extremist groups who can't deal with the new reality that exists in their fairyland. They are prepared to inflict more pain on the Thai people in the vain hope that they can regain their undeserved place at the top of society.}

Thanks great satire....I like it.

[yoshiwara]

Personally, I think this country would benefit from 10 years of communism.

Another form of authoritarianism. Yeah, good idea.

I am convinced that you know this is an impossible scenario.

You know what happened to the communists in this country, right?

Of course I know it's not possible, and yes, I know what happened to the communists.

Pity though, as a very short bout of communism would sort out the elite which clings to power in this country, at any price.

What you don't appear to know however is what happened to the Stalinist Communist Party (your understanding of communism may be confined to watching re-runs of Battleship Potemkin).

Well you are in luck because with their continuing espousal of popular frontism and stages theory, the remaining remnants of the CP and other rag tag left elements have tied their colours to Thaksin and Thida (head of the UDD) is their leader. So maybe we will see you soon wearing a Thida for PM T-shirt. And that is your dream. A dirty one.

[siampolee]

They are prepared to inflict more pain on the Thai people in the vain hope that they can regain their undeserved place at the top of society.

Rich teacher.

[h90]

Personally, I think this country would benefit from 10 years of communism.

Another form of authoritarianism. Yeah, good idea.

I am convinced that you know this is an impossible scenario.

You know what happened to the communists in this country, right?

More poignantly... look at what the communists did in the countries around Thailand. Not pretty.

I have some friends from former eastern block countries and they see communism as worse but not by a big margin. You have less, but you never need to worry about job or home or even safety. Thailand has a lot oil and gas resources to nationalize them would be a good thing, else I can't see how communism would help anyone. Seeing Thai style, I would love to see how a nationalized centralized economic would work. All the small food stalls owned by government and central managed....

[KarenBravo]

Personally, I think this country would benefit from 10 years of communism.

Another form of authoritarianism. Yeah, good idea.

I am convinced that you know this is an impossible scenario.

You know what happened to the communists in this country, right?

Of course I know it's not possible, and yes, I know what happened to the communists.

Pity though, as a very short bout of communism would sort out the elite which clings to power in this country, at any price.

What you don't appear to know however is what happened to the Stalinist Communist Party (your understanding of communism may be confined to watching re-runs of Battleship Potemkin).

Well you are in luck because with their continuing espousal of popular frontism and stages theory, the remaining remnants of the CP and other rag tag left elements have tied their colours to Thaksin and Thida (head of the UDD) is their leader. So maybe we will see you soon wearing a Thida for PM T-shirt. And that is your dream. A dirty one.

A "how to make a complete house with only three bricks" kinda post.

Must do better............3/10.

[Valentine]

Personally, I think this country would benefit from 10 years of communism.

Another form of authoritarianism. Yeah, good idea.

I am convinced that you know this is an impossible scenario.

You know what happened to the communists in this country, right?

More poignantly... look at what the communists did in the countries around Thailand. Not pretty.

I have some friends from former eastern block countries and they see communism as worse but not by a big margin. You have less, but you never need to worry about job or home or even safety. Thailand has a lot oil and gas resources to nationalize them would be a good thing, else I can't see how communism would help anyone. Seeing Thai style, I would love to see how a nationalized centralized economic would work. All the small food stalls owned by government and central managed....

Thailand does not have abundant oil & gas reserves http://abarrelfull.wikidot.com/thailand-oil-gas-profile

As for the communism idea just take a look around. Many of the red shirt leaders are ex communists. The red shirt villages seem pretty much a communist inspired idea.

[h90]

Thailand does not have abundant oil & gas reserves http://abarrelfull.w...oil-gas-profile

As for the communism idea just take a look around. Many of the red shirt leaders are ex communists. The red shirt villages seem pretty much a communist inspired idea.

That is the big topic since a few years that Thailand has a lot more oil fields than thought before. All in the gulf (north and very south).....

And the critic that most of the Thai Oil get exported and on the other hands a lot get imported over a broker that is owned by Thaksin.

I don't know how true or untrue it is. But that is discussed all the time.