snowflake Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 And some eye candy I'm in love... Should not be allowed... I am in love too... So much candy out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 What can you say? The Italians just have a passion/flair for design. Whether it be Motorcycles, Cars or even Bicycles Very nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) I guess they're *not* made in Thailand, prices for these new bikes is 800k+ Hypermotard 821.1 799,900 Hypermotard SP 821.1 899,900 Hypermotard Strada 821.1 945,000 This sucks. Well maybe they'll be made in Thailand.... someday... As a small consolation, they finally are offering ABS on the Monster 795, for 30k Baht extra. The bike just went from must have to whatever, yet another overpriced import. No thanks. Source: http://ducatithailand.com/pricelist.php Edited November 28, 2012 by nikster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Hmm... Diavel Strada also has an import-like price. What's up with the Thai factory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted November 28, 2012 Author Share Posted November 28, 2012 This is called sticking it in our a#% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 C'mon ducati <deleted>? They made well with 400 k Thai assembled monster. I was expecting better reasonable prices but they got greedy after they see the waiting list of monster i guess! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) C'mon ducati <deleted>? They made well with 400 k Thai assembled monster. I was expecting better reasonable prices but they got greedy after they see the waiting list of monster i guess! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App More likely these bikes are not made in Thailand. It's as simple as that. I had it on good authority that they would be made in Thailand - that was the plan, I heard it last year from an insider source. But as we see here, plans change in big corporations and what was the plan once is not the plan anymore. Ducati also has a new owner so it's possible they're doing a whole different strategy... There's an interesting article on the EICMA motor show in HFL right now - and an underlying sentiment that the future of motorbikes is cheap bikes made for the SEA market! Edited November 28, 2012 by nikster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 C'mon ducati <deleted>? They made well with 400 k Thai assembled monster. I was expecting better reasonable prices but they got greedy after they see the waiting list of monster i guess! Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App More likely these bikes are not made in Thailand. It's as simple as that. I had it on good authority that they would be made in Thailand - that was the plan, I heard it last year from an insider source. But as we see here, plans change in big corporations and what was the plan once is not the plan anymore. Ducati also has a new owner so it's possible they're doing a whole different strategy... There's an interesting article on the EICMA motor show in HFL right now - and an underlying sentiment that the future of motorbikes is cheap bikes made for the SEA market! yeah, seen that article Nikster. good one and future is going with bikes with less displacement and better efficiency. Again, they would like to embrace masses like before and it is something good for this world. Less pollution, less waste of resources etc. I hope Ducati assemble Streetfighter here instead of Hypermotard anyway. Not a big fan of hypermotard so i am not sad for these prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowflake Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I was really liking that new hyper, but 799? Nahhh would rather buy the Diavel then... My guess is that I will order my z1000 in the end of April, after my holiday to Norway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somtampet Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I thought the Ducati factory was on the way to Rayong,my mates wife is HR manager there,unless they are only assembling parts there???.will ask him tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I thought the Ducati factory was on the way to Rayong,my mates wife is HR manager there,unless they are only assembling parts there???.will ask him tomorrow As seen on "that other forum" Ducati says they are selling the new Hypers as imports for this year and will start making them here next year and drop the price by about 30%. Where by next year I guess they mean "as soon as they get their shit together" at that Rayong factory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The price and financial sections on the ducatithailand page are "under maintenance" since at least a week already. Whats the meaning of that. Change/update of pricing for which models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) The price and financial sections on the ducatithailand page are "under maintenance" since at least a week already. Whats the meaning of that. Change/update of pricing for which models? Educated guess: Total confusion I've heard from a dealer that they think they'll assemble the Mulistrada in Thailand next year. Apparently the Diavel is also not really manufactured here, but only assembled. I have a price list that says Diavel(CKD) on it. That would explain the 30% price premium over the US as CKD has a 30% excise tax (**). Other Diavel models are imports so you can get the almost the exact same bike except for way more money. Doesn't make much sense but that seems to be the norm as far as Ducati Thailand pricing goes. (**) Not sure, actually, but too lazy to look it up. If you know the exact differences between built here, build here but with imported parts, and CKD, let me know. It might also depend on the BOI deal they got... PS: Dealer rumors... take with a large grain of salt... Edited December 23, 2012 by nikster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bombis Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 If they make the Multistrade it would make sense they make the Hypermotard here also... So as always well have to wait and see. The new Hypermotard is really nice....but it would be quite a difference to have a pricing in the 600000 Baht range or the 800000 Baht range (as the previous 1100 Evo model). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The price and financial sections on the ducatithailand page are "under maintenance" since at least a week already. Whats the meaning of that. Change/update of pricing for which models? Educated guess: Total confusion I've heard from a dealer that they think they'll assemble the Mulistrada in Thailand next year. Apparently the Diavel is also not really manufactured here, but only assembled. I have a price list that says Diavel(CKD) on it. That would explain the 30% price premium over the US as CKD has a 30% excise tax (**). Other Diavel models are imports so you can get the almost the exact same bike except for way more money. Doesn't make much sense but that seems to be the norm as far as Ducati Thailand pricing goes. (**) Not sure, actually, but too lazy to look it up. If you know the exact differences between built here, build here but with imported parts, and CKD, let me know. It might also depend on the BOI deal they got... PS: Dealer rumors... take with a large grain of salt... There is a post on the 'other bike forum' suggesting the sales tax on big bikes will go up immediately by 10-20%. This is why Ducati took down the prices on the website until they got confirmation from the government. This is just what I read over there, so apologies if this is not correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 There is a post on the 'other bike forum' suggesting the sales tax on big bikes will go up immediately by 10-20%. This is why Ducati took down the prices on the website until they got confirmation from the government. This is just what I read over there, so apologies if this is not correct. Same info was in the motoring section http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/606038-new-vehicular-excise-tax-rates-depend-on-co2-emissions-from-2016-thailand/ Posted 2012-12-19 12:37:44 New vehicular excise tax rates depend on CO2 emissions, from 2016 By Digital Media BANGKOK, Dec 19 - The Cabinet yesterday approved a new excise tax structure to take effect in January 2016 in accord with a vehicle's quantity of carbon dioxide emissions, and 20 per cent higher excise taxes on luxury motorbikes and motorcycles to take immediate effect. Meanwhile, the ministry also proposed to Cabinet raising excise taxes on imported luxury motorbikes to 123 per cent for 800-1,000cc cylinder capacity from the current 103 per cent. The new tax rate takes effect today. The measure is expected to help the government gain more revenue of some Bt150 million. The ministry said those able to purchase such bikes are wealthy enough to pay higher taxes. (MCOT online news) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 There is a post on the 'other bike forum' suggesting the sales tax on big bikes will go up immediately by 10-20%. This is why Ducati took down the prices on the website until they got confirmation from the government. This is just what I read over there, so apologies if this is not correct. Same info was in the motoring section http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/606038-new-vehicular-excise-tax-rates-depend-on-co2-emissions-from-2016-thailand/ Posted 2012-12-19 12:37:44 New vehicular excise tax rates depend on CO2 emissions, from 2016 By Digital Media BANGKOK, Dec 19 - The Cabinet yesterday approved a new excise tax structure to take effect in January 2016 in accord with a vehicle's quantity of carbon dioxide emissions, and 20 per cent higher excise taxes on luxury motorbikes and motorcycles to take immediate effect. Meanwhile, the ministry also proposed to Cabinet raising excise taxes on imported luxury motorbikes to 123 per cent for 800-1,000cc cylinder capacity from the current 103 per cent. The new tax rate takes effect today. The measure is expected to help the government gain more revenue of some Bt150 million. The ministry said those able to purchase such bikes are wealthy enough to pay higher taxes. (MCOT online news) <deleted>.king hell! Now they start to consider bikes as matter of wealth? Elsewhere people buy them for economy and efficiency. They have to encourage people to buy more bikes. Look at the traffic congestion everywhere in Thailand and a million more low quality shoe box eco cars will invade the roads soon within 6 months! And we will be screwed. You can get a 1000 cc bike for 590 k and smallest idiot so called eco car for same price and with a tax incentive. What are they doing man? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 DucatiThailand.com has the price list up with "TBA" entries for these...interestingly the entire Multistrada category is also TBA... price changes for the big one too? Yeah yeah not getting my hopes up too much Well, I sold my WR450F at the end of last year and sold my Vigo a couple of weeks ago, so have a huge space in my garage that needs filling. I saw recently that the first Hyper had come off the production line so emailed Ducati asking for more info...none came back...no surprise there then. So decided to take a trip up to Bangkok (from Samui) and see if I could order one. So left here Friday (F*£"~?g Bangkok Airways...2 hours late!) and went and saw the nice people at Ducati (Shukhumvit 55) on Saturday morning. The bottom line is that the new Hypermotard won't be here until 'about' December and will be 800+ and they have no idea if a Thai version will be built here later...so what to do now??? ...my ideal bike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Well, I sold my WR450F at the end of last year and sold my Vigo a couple of weeks ago, so have a huge space in my garage that needs filling. I saw recently that the first Hyper had come off the production line so emailed Ducati asking for more info...none came back...no surprise there then. So decided to take a trip up to Bangkok (from Samui) and see if I could order one. So left here Friday (F*£"~?g Bangkok Airways...2 hours late!) and went and saw the nice people at Ducati (Shukhumvit 55) on Saturday morning. The bottom line is that the new Hypermotard won't be here until 'about' December and will be 800+ and they have no idea if a Thai version will be built here later...so what to do now??? ...my ideal bike Hmm that is nice ! I was just looking at a slew of pics here... 2013 Ducati Hypermotard Mega Gallery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Well, I sold my WR450F at the end of last year and sold my Vigo a couple of weeks ago, so have a huge space in my garage that needs filling. I saw recently that the first Hyper had come off the production line so emailed Ducati asking for more info...none came back...no surprise there then. So decided to take a trip up to Bangkok (from Samui) and see if I could order one. So left here Friday (F*£"~?g Bangkok Airways...2 hours late!) and went and saw the nice people at Ducati (Shukhumvit 55) on Saturday morning. The bottom line is that the new Hypermotard won't be here until 'about' December and will be 800+ and they have no idea if a Thai version will be built here later...so what to do now??? ...my ideal bike Hmm that is nice ! I was just looking at a slew of pics here... 2013 Ducati Hypermotard Mega Gallery Thanks for the pic's mania...for once in my life I have enough coin to get the bike I want and now have no idea when! This bike would be perfect for the island and it's shitty roads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 Thanks for the pic's mania...for once in my life I have enough coin to get the bike I want and now have no idea when! This bike would be perfect for the island and it's shitty roads Well hang in there & I know it must be rough but something will hopefully turn up that excites you. Yes that Hyper looks like a good fit for here in many ways. It turned out better than I expected too. Those new pics are quite sexy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The Hyper would be great for an island like Samui. I guess the WR450 would have been a decent bike as well given the (lack of decent) infrastructure there but that Ducati is a beast... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 The Hyper would be great for an island like Samui. I guess the WR450 would have been a decent bike as well given the (lack of decent) infrastructure there but that Ducati is a beast... The WR was great out in the open but hated traffic of any sort. I ended up wrapping the exhaust as it used to burn my leg thru my jeans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikster Posted February 25, 2013 Share Posted February 25, 2013 I have not heard anything about the Hyper so I wouldn't be surprised if they import it in December (<deleted> though?!). Dealer now saying that MTS and a new Asia-only mini MTS are going to be made here and arrive soon. But - who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted February 26, 2013 Share Posted February 26, 2013 I have not heard anything about the Hyper so I wouldn't be surprised if they import it in December (<deleted> though?!). Dealer now saying that MTS and a new Asia-only mini MTS are going to be made here and arrive soon. But - who knows. The MTS is certainly a nice bike...but not what I need here Good write up here...http://www.motorcycle.com/manufacturer/ducati/2013-ducati-multistrada-1200-s-touring-review-91437.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiNiro Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The Hyper has off road styling but it is a road bike. I doubt it would be optimal for the bad roads on Samui. What about a Terra Monster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted February 27, 2013 Share Posted February 27, 2013 The Hyper has off road styling but it is a road bike. I doubt it would be optimal for the bad roads on Samui. What about a Terra Monster? ducati_terra_mostro.jpg The Hyper will/would be fine here...It did cross my mind to get the 795 and have a go at creating a Motard out of if but why bother when the real deal is coming sooner or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 (edited) The first two minutes of that video really showcase the beautiful sound of that engine. Looks like such a fun bike. Edited March 5, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Looks like such a fun bike. It does at that! Don't think the front tyre will need replacing very often 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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