Futsal World Cup: Fifa Drops Bombshell On Bangkok Arena

[Soupdragon]

Not in vain, they can use this to their advantage, and im sure some have . How to do build a bit better and wiser . How to keep deadlines. What Happened?, maybe our caste hierarchy has too many Chiefs on the Site. PS. How many is a Hoard?

To learn from a mistake you first have to acknowledge that a mistake was made, and that is not the Thai way.

[whybother]

Suhkumband is also blaming the government for not approving the budget early enough. Given the time-line, I wonder which government?

[DP25]

This is what happens when a country that is ruled by corruption meets a situation where they can't bribe their way out a problem

FIFA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. They probably didn't bribe or didn't bribe enough

[theslime]

Not in vain, they can use this to their advantage, and im sure some have . How to do build a bit better and wiser . How to keep deadlines. What Happened?, maybe our caste hierarchy has too many Chiefs on the Site. PS. How many is a Hoard?

To learn from a mistake you first have to acknowledge that a mistake was made, and that is not the Thai way.

Yeah, too true. Been with wifey for nearly 10 years and same same.

[PatOngo]

All is far from lost,it would make a great cock fighting venue.

[Thai at Heart]

Suhkumband is also blaming the government for not approving the budget early enough. Given the time-line, I wonder which government?

100mn was delayed in May it seems. But the whole thing cost 1.2bn?

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Funding-concern-over-Futsal-stadium-BMA-30182491.html

[Thai at Heart]

This is what happens when a country that is ruled by corruption meets a situation where they can't bribe their way out a problem

FIFA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world. They probably didn't bribe or didn't bribe enough

Its no skin off their nose. Presumably both sides would have been waiting for brown envelopes with very confused faces.

[2unique]

I'm sure Dato Worawi will be fighting this injustice - with his record at getting reversals of decisions, I'd start buying tickets now.

Unless he didn't give the venture his support and is not financially involved, then they might be screwed

Sent from Android please allow errors in type or judgment.

[jonclark]

This should help with Thailand's application to host a F1 race in the near future. Not

[akampa]

This should help with Thailand's application to host a F1 race in the near future. Not

What a farce that would be I agree .it is not what people say but what they do and how they do it that counts

[LuckyLew]

Banana republic

1.2 billion baht for what?

Guess Thailand did not offer a large enough bribe to FIFA to get the go ahead

[fstarbkk]

I think this could be a valuable, albeit expensive lesson, if people and organizations in Thailand would choose to use it as such. The lesson is this:

In the real world, not every mistake or failure to perform can be taken care of with a cute smile, a deep wai or a token transfer to an inactive post. The real world is a demanding and very competitive place where bad performance and bad behaviour have actual cosequences that can't be swept under the rug.

I suspect however that those responsible in this case will expend all their energy to justify their failure and delegate blame to everyone but themselves, as the early reactions from the BMA suggest. They may only find out in 2015 what a harsh place the real world really is, when they have to start measuring up to the often much higher standards of the whole ASEAN region.

[beano2274]

They have known for a long time that they were getting the Futsal World Cup and still could not get it done on time, does not look good for the so-called Formula 1 race track in 2014 that they keep on going on about, if I was Bernie I would be distancing myself from this idea.

Well done to FIFA for doing their jobs correctly.

[DocN]

<deleted> are some of you rambling about FIFA being corrupt?

As much as that maybe true in general...what has that to do with this case?

IF bribes were involved, it was at naming Thailand host of this Futsal World Cup.

Bribes in a case of the last 10 days???

Yeah right!

Some here looking to blame FIFA instead of BMA?

Welcome to LaLa- Land!

[Bagwan]

This should help with Thailand's application to host a F1 race in the near future. Not

This affair is very small beer, Wait until they build an atomic reactor. If they go ahead with that, Swampy will need a few extra runways to cope with the rush to flee.

[Duindam]

Tomorrow Argentina-Australia, Bangkok, Nimibutr Stadium, 8 November 2012, 17:00 (local time)

source: Farang News Thailand

[Thai at Heart]

I think this could be a valuable, albeit expensive lesson, if people and organizations in Thailand would choose to use it as such. The lesson is this:

In the real world, not every mistake or failure to perform can be taken care of with a cute smile, a deep wai or a token transfer to an inactive post. The real world is a demanding and very competitive place where bad performance and bad behaviour have actual cosequences that can't be swept under the rug.

I suspect however that those responsible in this case will expend all their energy to justify their failure and delegate blame to everyone but themselves, as the early reactions from the BMA suggest. They may only find out in 2015 what a harsh place the real world really is, when they have to start measuring up to the often much higher standards of the whole ASEAN region.

It isn't even going to figure in the news for a week. It will be the issue that no one talks about, with the blame lying with the fussy farangs who didn't get enough VIP rooms.

[technologybytes]

Really it just comes down to the massive cultural differences between Thailand and countries like the USA and UK. It's unfair to point blame to any individual or even government body because it goes far deeper than that. It's not that the Thailand way is wrong so much as Thailand way is different and incompatible with western ideas of meeting deadlines and standards.

I'm not sure that corruption has as much of a impact on this as is suggested here, sure it's an issue but again I think the problem goes much deeper.

Will Thailand business practices ever be "compatible" with the west ? I don't know, but I'm concerned that it would require such a massive change in the way that Thai people think that in order for that to happen, Thailand would not be Thailand.

Remember we have to take the rough with the smooth. It's Thailand's unique outlook that makes Thailand the wonderful place that it is.. I know we moan and complain all the time but deep down we love the Thai's and they ways or we wouldn't be here right?

[mrtoad]

Surely not the Thais fault, must be those pesky farangs being difficult

[softgeorge]

What is Futsal? I appologise for my ignorance but I have never heard of Futsal, is it some sort of Thai Boxing?

[finnomick1]

" Although significant progrees had been made, including the installation of a pitch, FIFA was not satisfied " -- handy that, having a pitch so they got this one right but.....

" We did everything that FIFA requested, EXCEPT some small issues " means that you didn't do everything FIFA requested. When will Thai's learn that to complete a job they need to 100% of it, not 75% as per normal ?

They failed " to be number one " on this issue.....

[8ighty1ne]

I love this, bahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha

Edited November 7, 2012 by 8ighty1ne

[hansgruber]

Oh well. Turn it into a massage parlour. Another wouldn't hurt.

That area is full of them.

[Fozfromoz]

What is Futsal? I appologise for my ignorance but I have never heard of Futsal, is it some sort of Thai Boxing?

Best I can tell, it's a bastardised version of soccer, played indoors like a basketball court.

[robsamui]

I think this could be a valuable, albeit expensive lesson, if people and organizations in Thailand would choose to use it as such. The lesson is this:

In the real world, not every mistake or failure to perform can be taken care of with a cute smile, a deep wai or a token transfer to an inactive post. The real world is a demanding and very competitive place where bad performance and bad behaviour have actual cosequences that can't be swept under the rug.

I suspect however that those responsible in this case will expend all their energy to justify their failure and delegate blame to everyone but themselves, as the early reactions from the BMA suggest. They may only find out in 2015 what a harsh place the real world really is, when they have to start measuring up to the often much higher standards of the whole ASEAN region.

The sad part of it all is the very thing that the Thais are so fiercely proud of - the fact they've never been conquered or invaded. This is the kingpin of their rampant nationalism and it's their proud and defiant boast that they continue to resist the 'corrupting' effect of foreign influences on their culture.

Unfortunately one or two Thai folks are beginning to become aware of the flaw in this attitude - that the more Thailand shoves it head in the sand like an ostrich, the quicker the world outside moves on.

One the one hand it's reasonable for Thailand to look around its little corner of the world and feel superior to its neighbours. But then the Thais stagger in shock when they are forced into contact with unpleasant farang concepts such as accountability, reliability, responsibility, integrity and honesty.

Every day in their schools the children have to chant a creed about what a wonderful country Thailand is - the best in the world. But it's now gone past the point where having lots of fish and rice has a great deal of meaning.

We, the Thai people, are the greatest in the world also.

In our water, there are abundancy of fish and in our field, there are golden rice paddies.

There is no other country on this earth that can compare with our beloved Thailand.

R

[Woodsie888]

The BMA will think dealing with FIFA is a walk in the park compared with the FIA when it comes time to inspect the proposed F1 circuit.

[Thai at Heart]

I think this could be a valuable, albeit expensive lesson, if people and organizations in Thailand would choose to use it as such. The lesson is this:

In the real world, not every mistake or failure to perform can be taken care of with a cute smile, a deep wai or a token transfer to an inactive post. The real world is a demanding and very competitive place where bad performance and bad behaviour have actual cosequences that can't be swept under the rug.

I suspect however that those responsible in this case will expend all their energy to justify their failure and delegate blame to everyone but themselves, as the early reactions from the BMA suggest. They may only find out in 2015 what a harsh place the real world really is, when they have to start measuring up to the often much higher standards of the whole ASEAN region.

The sad part of it all is the very thing that the Thais are so fiercely proud of - the fact they've never been conquered or invaded. This is the kingpin of their rampant nationalism and it's their proud and defiant boast that they continue to resist the 'corrupting' effect of foreign influences on their culture.

Unfortunately one or two Thai folks are beginning to become aware of the flaw in this attitude - that the more Thailand shoves it head in the sand like an ostrich, the quicker the world outside moves on.

One the one hand it's reasonable for Thailand to look around its little corner of the world and feel superior to its neighbours. But then the Thais stagger in shock when they are forced into contact with unpleasant farang concepts such as accountability, reliability, responsibility, integrity and honesty.

Every day in their schools the children have to chant a creed about what a wonderful country Thailand is - the best in the world. But it's now gone past the point where having lots of fish and rice has a great deal of meaning.

We, the Thai people, are the greatest in the world also.

In our water, there are abundancy of fish and in our field, there are golden rice paddies.

There is no other country on this earth that can compare with our beloved Thailand.

R

There is nothing wrong with national anthems and being proud of your country. It is the ability for self criticism and accountability that is a most vital issue that normally goes missing here. There are many countries in the world that are nationalistic to one degree or another, but when something goes wrong or needs to be changed, people don't wait to be told what to do, they club together and get on with it.

On the very simplest level, Thailand can't even have a reasoned debate about who runs the country without resorting to street protests, arson, shootings and army intervention. On the surface, Thai's are told they are one all together, but in reality, this society is so class, origin, and position divided, that inevitably something is going to have to give one day if situations such as this topic are ever going to change.

[anon7]

Extremely Good! God has answered! That money should have been spent on those poor ladies who sell their bodies to keep their brothers in school. What portion of the 25b USD earned from foreigners were spent on poverty alleviation last year? I think Thailand has the most corrupt government officials in the world. Just like all the other elected heads of states (other than that of Iran) your's is also a thundering liar.

[robsamui]

What is Futsal? I appologise for my ignorance but I have never heard of Futsal, is it some sort of Thai Boxing?

But I bet you've heard of Google . . . . ;-)

R

[rfukata]

so if this Bangkok Arena gets disqualified for not meeting safety, security, and fundamental measures as quoted;

"Its Committee explained that the safety of spectators, teams and all other visitors to the stadium were of paramount importance to Fifa, and that such a fundamental issue,"

How is the Planning for the upcoming F1 racing proposal going to turn out with the F1 committee?