Dtac To Lead Thai Telecom Industry Into 4G Era

[hellodolly]

Let's take them seriously for one minute - Can anyone with a background in telecom confirm that IF dtac implements 4G (big IF I know!), that it would be in the same 2100 MHz spectrum as the current 3G services (presumably what they won at "auction")? It seems implied in this article, however given the suspect nature of the English language journalism here, one never knows...

Yes let us take them serious. Can any one with connections confirm that we will have 3G before the rest of the world has 6G?

I dont know what sites we can or can't link to, but here is some info from a Bangkok based news distributor:

In a unanimous decision, the three members of the Ombudsman's Office agreed to ask the court to decide if the 3G auction was free and fair and to issue an injunction halting the issuance of the licences until the court ruling is delivered.

Col Settapong Malisuwan, chairman of the NBTC's telecom committee, said the commission will follow the court order if a ruling is made.

He said the NBTC will have to immediately cease issuing the licences to the auction winners if the court decides to grant an injunction.

"On the other hand, if the court rules in favour of us, we will quickly move ahead to issue the 3G licences within 90 days, or Jan 18 next year, to comply with the 3G's information memorandum condition," he said.

He said

Little tired of cheap talk we have been watching this farce for about 3 to 4 years now. We finally get it and up comes a injunction bid. And the parade goes on and on and on. In the mean time 4G is in use all around the world and there is probably work going on to create 5G.

In the mean time we in Thailand get zip because the Government is not making enough money off of it.

Edited November 10, 2012 by hellodolly

[thaicbr]

Let's take them seriously for one minute - Can anyone with a background in telecom confirm that IF dtac implements 4G (big IF I know!), that it would be in the same 2100 MHz spectrum as the current 3G services (presumably what they won at "auction")? It seems implied in this article, however given the suspect nature of the English language journalism here, one never knows...

Yes let us take them serious. Can any one with connections confirm that we will have 3G before the rest of the world has 6G?

I dont know what sites we can or can't link to, but here is some info from a Bangkok based news distributor:

In a unanimous decision, the three members of the Ombudsman's Office agreed to ask the court to decide if the 3G auction was free and fair and to issue an injunction halting the issuance of the licences until the court ruling is delivered.

Col Settapong Malisuwan, chairman of the NBTC's telecom committee, said the commission will follow the court order if a ruling is made.

He said the NBTC will have to immediately cease issuing the licences to the auction winners if the court decides to grant an injunction.

"On the other hand, if the court rules in favour of us, we will quickly move ahead to issue the 3G licences within 90 days, or Jan 18 next year, to comply with the 3G's information memorandum condition," he said.

He said

Little tired of cheap talk we have been watching this farce for about 3 to 4 years now. We finally get it and up comes a injunction bid. And the parade goes on and on and on. In the mean time 4G is in use all around the world and there is probably work going on to create 5G.

In the mean time we in Thailand get zip because the Government is not making enough money off of it.

4g as in LTE is still on a very limited roll out. When we get 2100mhz I think things will improve rapidly.

sent from my Q6

[hellodolly]

And 6G does not exist. 5G also does not exist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G

Seriously man, 3 seconds of Googling and you would have this information.

I allll ready have it. I also have a good idea of what is happening in Thailand 3 seconds of goggling and you will have it. I stand by what I said it may have been tongue in cheek but after three seconds of goggling about the way Thailand is handling it you too may start to wonder.

Years of dragging their feet then they get a honest legal government approved auction and some one seeks out a injunction to throw the results out.

You just don't get it do you.

The Government received close to 13 billion Baht and they wanted a lot more. Hense injunction.

Edited November 10, 2012 by hellodolly

[jbrain]

I have such a strange felling that they implement the upgrade right now, as I've been disconnected at least 7 times from Dtac 3G in the past 2 hours while the other times it is mostly below the speed of Edge.

I know, that means it only can improve.

[Tatsujin]

I have such a strange felling that they implement the upgrade right now, as I've been disconnected at least 7 times from Dtac 3G in the past 2 hours while the other times it is mostly below the speed of Edge.

I know, that means it only can improve.

No, there's a problem currently with the international gateway that CAT are trying to fix.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Don't worry, JB!!

DTAC isn't implementing anything regarding 4G...

The OP report was just regarding a DTAC headquarters test to confirm for themselves that there really is such a thing as 4G service. Since nobody in Thailand has ever seen such a thing, I guess they needed to convince themselves that it really existed...

Perhaps they really can "switch on" 3G and 4G signals at their transmitters in "less than 15 minutes" per site. But at best, only one third of DTAC's sites will even be 3G capable by the end of the year.

And based on past performance, it's going to take them some years to upgrade and activate the rest, to whatever extent they ultimately do.

[jbrain]

I have such a strange felling that they implement the upgrade right now, as I've been disconnected at least 7 times from Dtac 3G in the past 2 hours while the other times it is mostly below the speed of Edge.

I know, that means it only can improve.

No, there's a problem currently with the international gateway that CAT are trying to fix.

Has currently the same meaning as forever by any chance ? Edited November 10, 2012 by jbrain

[Tatsujin]

Well, Thai "time" is very different from everyone else's so you may well be right lol

[HOAX]

I was here in 2008 and I had a 3G capable Nokia phone then... And I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one capable of mobile 3G back then. Maybe even you had a 3G phone back in the good ole' days.

DTAC certainly made a big deal back in 2008 in announcing the arrival then (supposedly) of their 3G network... and how it was going to transform Thailand...So at least DTAC must have thought and believed back then in 2008 (FOUR YEARS AGO!) that there was a market for it... unlike you Loma...

The three benefits of 3G

The NTC’s approval of the 3G upgrade comes at a good time; the country needs investments in vast projects to stimulate its overall economy. The decision also helps boost the confidence of the general public and investors in the growth potential of the nation. The company believes the approval for mobile phone operators to develop 3G services will result in three advantages at the same time:

• Consumers will enjoy better and faster access to information through high-speed telecommunications networks, as people in other countries are experiencing.
  
• The decision benefits the overall telecommunications industry because the 3G technology will lead to active development among mobile phone operators and related entrepreneurs such as mobile phone vendors, application developers and content producers.
  
• The decision will contribute to national economic and social development because 3G systems will expand information access to all regions of the country, especially remote areas that are longing for efficient telecommunications and Internet networks.
  

Five billion baht investment plan

dtac will build about 1,200 new base stations during the first phase of the upgrade plan, at an estimated cost of approximately five million baht. Initially dtac introduces 3G services in Bangkok, Phuket and Chon Buri, which are major provinces with high market demands. The company is confident that it will complete the installation and launch commercial services within one year after obtaining official approval. [Emphasis added]

http://telenor.com/n...ts-green-light/

And as for the issue of mobile 3G service in rural/remote areas of Thailand, note what DTAC was saying four years ago.

3G systems will expand information access to all regions of the country, especially remote areas that are longing for efficient telecommunications and Internet networks.

That's true. I remember, and it didn't take long time before Telenor started complaining about their frustrations with the Thai government. They would never stop pointing fingers. And there was also an lawsuit going on.

Anyways... the argument between TOT, CAT, NBTC and the congress now seems to be over. DTAC won the auction Oct. 16 and can now continue with their real 3G plan. What Thailand have now is in reality just an upgraded 2G.

DTAC will spend 40 billion baht over the next 3 years on 3G, which they say will cover 80% of the Thai population.

DTAC has completed its 4G trial after offering mobile broadband in the Rama IV and Siam Square areas since 01 October. The test, via aircards and 4G-compliant smartphones, achieved a maximum speed of 150 Mbps for data download. Though 4G LTE can handle upto 1GB and perhaps even more, 150 Mb is at leased a lot better than what is offered today. AIS and DPC held their 4G trail test back in January. DTAC were not granted the 4G test license then by NBTC and had to wait til October.

DTAC say they already have 4G-ready bases across BKK but are still waiting for licenses (given by NBTC). 4G-ready (1800MHz) isn't as fast as 4G LTE (2300MHz), but I remember reading a while ago that DTAC was talking about LTE.

Lets hope they will get the licenses soon so they can start with 4G as well.