Making Friends In Bangkok

[tinfoilhat]

Perhaps you should look up the difference between preaching and challenging. You are a young kid making up all sorts of things to write that your family would never tell you. We know. A lot of us have moral and upstanding Thai families. We also know that the mother normally takes care of a Thai child. We also know lots of other stuff about buying land with Thai shareholders and lots of stuff.

OP: My stepson lives in Australia & is half Thai and speaks, reads & writes English & Thai fluently as he was encouraged by his Thai mother. Thais in Australia meet regularly and socialise in Thai. He also communicates in Thai with his Thai family In Thailand via social media as well as Thais living outside of Thailand.

I very surprised that you never, at a minimum, spoke Thai whilst in Australia - you must have lived in an Australian cocoon. Thailand has very many faces & the one that you are currently experiencing is a small aspect of Thai society - one day your Thai bubble will burst.

Well with an Aussie dad and no brothers and sisters, as well as no family on my mothers side there, it makes it pretty hard when noone else in your family speaks it whilst your growing up. Its not so much a cocoon, but i was born there and had no thai friends, my mother had some but i always hung out with my dad and his family. Australia is very multicultural, i have friends at home from all different races and a lot of them can't speak their parents native language, its not like its taught in schools or seen as an important aspect growing up there.

And as for other thai faces, i already know there is, otherwise i wouldn't still be here, but on this particular forum i'm just staying on topic. I don't hate Thailand, quite the opposite, i just thought this was an open forum with some people who could handle being challenged in a conversation whilst using only logic without emotions to cloud their judgement.

Perhaps you should look up the difference between preaching and challenging. You are a young kid making up all sorts of things to write that your family would never tell you. We know. A lot of us have moral and upstanding Thai families. We also know that the mother normally takes care of a Thai child. We also know lots of other stuff about buying land with Thai shareholders and lots of stuff.

hmmm, does that make me abnormal then?

[chiangmaikelly]

Mr hat who you talking to?

[Shot]

Perhaps you should look up the difference between preaching and challenging. You are a young kid making up all sorts of things to write that your family would never tell you. We know. A lot of us have moral and upstanding Thai families. We also know that the mother normally takes care of a Thai child. We also know lots of other stuff about buying land with Thai shareholders and lots of stuff.

Well with an Aussie dad and no brothers and sisters, as well as no family on my mothers side there, it makes it pretty hard when noone else in your family speaks it whilst your growing up. Its not so much a cocoon, but i was born there and had no thai friends, my mother had some but i always hung out with my dad and his family. Australia is very multicultural, i have friends at home from all different races and a lot of them can't speak their parents native language, its not like its taught in schools or seen as an important aspect growing up there.

And as for other thai faces, i already know there is, otherwise i wouldn't still be here, but on this particular forum i'm just staying on topic. I don't hate Thailand, quite the opposite, i just thought this was an open forum with some people who could handle being challenged in a conversation whilst using only logic without emotions to cloud their judgement.

Perhaps you should look up the difference between preaching and challenging. You are a young kid making up all sorts of things to write that your family would never tell you. We know. A lot of us have moral and upstanding Thai families. We also know that the mother normally takes care of a Thai child. We also know lots of other stuff about buying land with Thai shareholders and lots of stuff.

hmmm, does that make me abnormal then?

Yes, and me too. Talk about stereotyping.

[SteeleJoe]

Perhaps you should look up the difference between preaching and challenging. You are a young kid making up all sorts of things to write that your family would never tell you. We know. A lot of us have moral and upstanding Thai families. We also know that the mother normally takes care of a Thai child. We also know lots of other stuff about buying land with Thai shareholders and lots of stuff.

hmmm, does that make me abnormal then?

Yes, and me too. Talk about stereotyping.

Consider the source.

[chiangmaikelly]

Perhaps you should look up the difference between preaching and challenging. You are a young kid making up all sorts of things to write that your family would never tell you. We know. A lot of us have moral and upstanding Thai families. We also know that the mother normally takes care of a Thai child. We also know lots of other stuff about buying land with Thai shareholders and lots of stuff.

hmmm, does that make me abnormal then?

Yes, and me too. Talk about stereotyping.

Consider the source.

Don't you get tired of flaming, baiting? Try and quote the percent of children raised in Thailand by mothers or grandparents as opposed to Farangs? That would be on topic.

[SteeleJoe]

Don't you get tired of flaming, baiting? Try and quote the percent of children raised in Thailand by mothers or grandparents as opposed to Farangs? That would be on topic.

Stop sniffling. No one's flaming or baiting (nor have I don so previously)

I tell you what though: I apologize for the comment. I had a reason for posting it but I'll leave it alone and perhaps I should have done so rather than post that.

However, as much as you apparently wish to make your detective work the topic, in fact posting about mothers and grandmothers is not "on topic" at all. The topic is in fact 'making friends in Bangkok' (I figured that out from the title of the thread) and why the (narrow minded and misguided) author of the OP is apparently having some trouble with it.

Edited November 12, 2012 by SteeleJoe

[HeavyDrinker]

One pops out for a few an misses all the scrapping....

[chiangmaikelly]

Don't you get tired of flaming, baiting? Try and quote the percent of children raised in Thailand by mothers or grandparents as opposed to Farangs? That would be on topic.

Stop sniffling. No one's flaming or baiting (nor have I don so previously)

I tell you what though: I apologize for the comment. I had a reason for posting it but I'll leave it alone and perhaps I should have done so rather than post that.

However, as much as you apparently wish to make your detective work the topic, in fact posting about mothers and grandmothers is not "on topic" at all. The topic is in fact 'making friends in Bangkok' (I figured that out from the title of the thread) and why the (narrow minded and misguided) author of the OP is apparently having some trouble with it.

You said, referring to me, "Consider the source." You did not write anything else. That's a flame.

I was responding to two other posters who inferred that it was normal in Thailand for Farangs to raise Thai children. Is it? What do you think? One tenth of one percent of Thai children raised by a Farang?

Edited November 12, 2012 by chiangmaikelly

[isawasnake]

I have noticed that there are some people that need to meet a lit of people. Really. Whether they are home or not they just need to be meeting interesting people all the time. In contrast, take me for example (yay, back to ME), I have a few very close friends that would probably do just about anything for me, and vice versa, and call me crazy but I never feel the need to go wondering out looking for more friends. If it happens, cool, but it probably wont for another 10 years, as I seem to meet one truly solid one just about every decade.

[SteeleJoe]

You said, referring to me, "Consider the source." You did not write anything else. That's a flame.

I was responding to two other posters who inferred that it was normal in Thailand for Farangs to raise Thai children. Is it? What do you think? One tenth of one percent of Thai children raised by a Farang?

Is that a flame? I honestly don't know but OK then: I apologize for flaming. (I know I wasn't baiting though because I would have actually preferred to get no response from you)

By the way, you weren't referring to them. They commented after you made your (to me) odd post to the OP that included in it what Thai mothers normally do.

The answer to your question: If you mean is it usual or a common occurrence, then the answer is probably "no". And?

[chiangmaikelly]

You said, referring to me, "Consider the source." You did not write anything else. That's a flame.

I was responding to two other posters who inferred that it was normal in Thailand for Farangs to raise Thai children. Is it? What do you think? One tenth of one percent of Thai children raised by a Farang?

Is that a flame? I honestly don't know but OK then: I apologize for flaming. (I know I wasn't baiting though because I would have actually preferred to get no response from you)

By the way, you weren't referring to them. They commented after you made your (to me) odd post to the OP that included in it what Thai mothers normally do.

The answer to your question: If you mean is it usual or a common occurrence, then the answer is probably "no". And?

So hat and shot are abnormal. Good abnormal but not normal. Normal would be a Thai women/Thai Family rearing Thai Children.

[SteeleJoe]

So hat and shot are abnormal. Good abnormal but not normal. Normal would be a Thai women/Thai Family rearing Thai Children.

Uhmmm...OK.

(You've gone from making some heated statements to an about the writer of the OP (entirely accurate for all I know) and then suddenly feel the need to prove something about two people that commented about a point in your post but who have nothing to do with the OP...alright, then. Well done!)

[SteeleJoe]

_{I just realized: you keep talking about "Thai children". The OP is half Thai, half Australian and was living in Australia. Why compare his situation to Thai children in Thailand?}

Why do you assume the other two posters are raising "Thai children"? And why compare their families with Thai families (in which it is probably far more common to have mothers or grandmothers raise children rather than single fathers) rather than typical families in the country which they come from (where single fathers are probably less of an unusual phenomenon)?

Edited November 12, 2012 by SteeleJoe

[BigJohnnyBKK]

If someone's being IYO irrational wouldn't it be better to just not engage him further?

Edited November 12, 2012 by BigJohnnyBKK

[SteeleJoe]

If someone's being IYO irrational wouldn't it be better to just not engage him further?

Yes, it would. (If by "better" you mean more sensible and less self-indulgent)

Edited November 12, 2012 by SteeleJoe

[chiangmaikelly]

If someone's being IYO irrational wouldn't it be better to just not engage him further?

I suppose but in the OP and his other posts in this thread I culled the following gems, "I have met a whole lot of western people from USA, Canada and the UK, but majority if not all of them seem to be older (like 55+) or just bloody crazy.

I notice that it seems to be from one extreme to the other, either brain numbing boring folks who stay at home and watch TV, to sex crazed hooligans.

Is it just me or does Thailand just seem to attract the crazies and desperate people from around the world? "

"Ok firstly i'm sorry i don't know what a luk krung is. My thai still isn't great but i'm learning. Secondly i'm actually half Thai, i just happen to be born and grew up in Australia and i now have Thai citizenship thanks to my uncle here, meaning i have more of a right to be here than you do.

i'm just saying that in my opinion you could be much happier with someone around your age who actually may have a a few things in common with you, instead of someone who should really be going out with your grandson.

i just find it disgusting when some one is with someone that could be their grand daughter or even worst great grand daughter. "

End of quotes.

I thought the above deserved some comment.

Edited November 13, 2012 by chiangmaikelly

[StreetCowboy]

If someone's being IYO irrational wouldn't it be better to just not engage him further?

I suppose but in the OP and his other posts in this thread I culled the following gems, "I have met a whole lot of western people from USA, Canada and the UK, but majority if not all of them seem to be older (like 55+) or just bloody crazy.

I notice that it seems to be from one extreme to the other, either brain numbing boring folks who stay at home and watch TV, to sex crazed hooligans.

Is it just me or does Thailand just seem to attract the crazies and desperate people from around the world? "

"Ok firstly i'm sorry i don't know what a luk krung is. My thai still isn't great but i'm learning. Secondly i'm actually half Thai, i just happen to be born and grew up in Australia and i now have Thai citizenship thanks to my uncle here, meaning i have more of a right to be here than you do.

i'm just saying that in my opinion you could be much happier with someone around your age who actually may have a a few things in common with you, instead of someone who should really be going out with your grandson.

i just find it disgusting when some one is with someone that could be their grand daughter or even worst great grand daughter. "

End of quotes.

I thought the above deserved some comment.

Youre a generous man, Kelly. I thought they deserved nothing.

Is it true that you've been here since the Portuguese? I guess Thailand was quite different then - indeed, the world was.

Days of wonder and exploration! Sir Walter Raleigh, inventor of the bicycle, returning to the England, naming one his newly discovered territories after his Queen Elizabeth's favourite record store; sorely afflicted with his tobacco habit, he named the New World "Marleboro Country".

"Your majesty, may I present to you the humble potato. Saturday night fights outside the chip shop will never be the same again".

But back to Thailand. I understand that at that time, most of the expats lived in a little seaside "fishing" village near Jomtien. Of course, in those days people were much more puritanical, and everyone pretended that they were here for jobs, or to explore new worlds, or spread the word of God or whatever, and they would deny they were sex tourists.

"Are you fae Fife?"

"No, I live in Thailand"

"Oh. From Pattaya?"

"No, fae Rong Yi" - which became what they (foreigners) were called - 'Fi Rong Yi'.

SC

[chiangmaikelly]

If someone's being IYO irrational wouldn't it be better to just not engage him further?

I suppose but in the OP and his other posts in this thread I culled the following gems, "I have met a whole lot of western people from USA, Canada and the UK, but majority if not all of them seem to be older (like 55+) or just bloody crazy.

I notice that it seems to be from one extreme to the other, either brain numbing boring folks who stay at home and watch TV, to sex crazed hooligans.

Is it just me or does Thailand just seem to attract the crazies and desperate people from around the world? "

"Ok firstly i'm sorry i don't know what a luk krung is. My thai still isn't great but i'm learning. Secondly i'm actually half Thai, i just happen to be born and grew up in Australia and i now have Thai citizenship thanks to my uncle here, meaning i have more of a right to be here than you do.

i'm just saying that in my opinion you could be much happier with someone around your age who actually may have a a few things in common with you, instead of someone who should really be going out with your grandson.

i just find it disgusting when some one is with someone that could be their grand daughter or even worst great grand daughter. "

End of quotes.

I thought the above deserved some comment.

Youre a generous man, Kelly. I thought they deserved nothing.

Is it true that you've been here since the Portuguese? I guess Thailand was quite different then - indeed, the world was.

Days of wonder and exploration! Sir Walter Raleigh, inventor of the bicycle, returning to the England, naming one his newly discovered territories after his Queen Elizabeth's favourite record store; sorely afflicted with his tobacco habit, he named the New World "Marleboro Country".

"Your majesty, may I present to you the humble potato. Saturday night fights outside the chip shop will never be the same again".

But back to Thailand. I understand that at that time, most of the expats lived in a little seaside "fishing" village near Jomtien. Of course, in those days people were much more puritanical, and everyone pretended that they were here for jobs, or to explore new worlds, or spread the word of God or whatever, and they would deny they were sex tourists.

"Are you fae Fife?"

"No, I live in Thailand"

"Oh. From Pattaya?"

"No, fae Rong Yi" - which became what they (foreigners) were called - 'Fi Rong Yi'.

SC

I am a generous guy. I get a bum rap most of the time. I like 42 year old women. I only prefer to get there with two 21 year olds rather than one 42 year old. Does that make me a bad guy?

[yourauntbob]

if you were here alone you'd likely see it differently

Even if i came here alone i wouldn't bother having to pay for it,

Sex always has cost directly or indirectly. Some people prefer just to pay up front and be done with it instead of installments over the course of a relationship. To each their own.

Edited November 13, 2012 by yourauntbob

[BigJohnnyBKK]

I'm still waiting to find out what momentous change came to Thailand around 1400 AD. . .

[chiangmaikelly]

I'm still waiting to find out what momentous change came to Thailand around 1400 AD. . .

In 1511, immediately after having conquered Malacca, the Portuguese sent a diplomatic mission headed by Duarte Fernandes to the court of King Ramathibodi II of Ayutthaya.

The first historical record of an attempt to introduce Christianity to Thailand is owed to John Peter Maffei who stated that about 1550 a French Franciscan, Bonferre, hearing of the great kingdom of the Peguans and the Siamese in the East, went on a Portuguese ship from Goa to Cosme (Peguan), where for three years he preached the Gospel, but without any result.

Today there are 292,000 Catholics in Thailand, which represents 0.46% of the total population. There are 10 dioceses with 436 parishes and 662 priests.

[YourMomma]

I love making friends.

[tinfoilhat]

_{I just realized: you keep talking about "Thai children". The OP is half Thai, half Australian and was living in Australia. Why compare his situation to Thai children in Thailand?}

Why do you assume the other two posters are raising "Thai children"? And why compare their families with Thai families (in which it is probably far more common to have mothers or grandmothers raise children rather than single fathers) rather than typical families in the country which they come from (where single fathers are probably less of an unusual phenomenon)?

my child has two passports, one of them is thai.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

I'm still waiting to find out what momentous change came to Thailand around 1400 AD. . .

In 1511, immediately after having conquered Malacca, the Portuguese sent a diplomatic mission headed by Duarte Fernandes to the court of King Ramathibodi II of Ayutthaya.

The first historical record of an attempt to introduce Christianity to Thailand is owed to John Peter Maffei who stated that about 1550 a French Franciscan, Bonferre, hearing of the great kingdom of the Peguans and the Siamese in the East, went on a Portuguese ship from Goa to Cosme (Peguan), where for three years he preached the Gospel, but without any result.

Today there are 292,000 Catholics in Thailand, which represents 0.46% of the total population. There are 10 dioceses with 436 parishes and 662 priests.

And the last time I went down to the 7-11 they were out of the bread I like.

Seems as relevant to any topic raised in this thread.

If your point is that missionaries have made very little headway in bringing Christianity to the Thais I completely agree.

If your point is that Victorian sexual morality made greater inroads, especially from the top end of society down, independently of its source religious influences and without political colonization, I also agree.

But kind of hard to tell if these ideas are part of what you're talking about.

[TheSalayaKid]

if you want the truth about what kind of people thailand attracts, wait for about 10 more posts.

you may not like what you see.

I didn't have to wait that long - creepy old man with his arm around a young boy.... (joking of course)

[chiangmaikelly]

I'm still waiting to find out what momentous change came to Thailand around 1400 AD. . .

In 1511, immediately after having conquered Malacca, the Portuguese sent a diplomatic mission headed by Duarte Fernandes to the court of King Ramathibodi II of Ayutthaya.

The first historical record of an attempt to introduce Christianity to Thailand is owed to John Peter Maffei who stated that about 1550 a French Franciscan, Bonferre, hearing of the great kingdom of the Peguans and the Siamese in the East, went on a Portuguese ship from Goa to Cosme (Peguan), where for three years he preached the Gospel, but without any result.

Today there are 292,000 Catholics in Thailand, which represents 0.46% of the total population. There are 10 dioceses with 436 parishes and 662 priests.

And the last time I went down to the 7-11 they were out of the bread I like.

Seems as relevant to any topic raised in this thread.

If your point is that missionaries have made very little headway in bringing Christianity to the Thais I completely agree.

If your point is that Victorian sexual morality made greater inroads, especially from the top end of society down, independently of its source religious influences and without political colonization, I also agree.

But kind of hard to tell if these ideas are part of what you're talking about.

Actually I was talking about making friends in Bangkok if you could make, "khanom-farang kudeejeen" which are of course Portuguese.

Edited November 13, 2012 by chiangmaikelly

[BigJohnnyBKK]

Actually I was talking about making friends in Bangkok if you could make, "khanom-farang kudeejeen" which is of course Portuguese.

Interesting tidbit, guy selling them on my corner for B10 a bag - B20 if you want sultanas. Didn't realize they were Portuguese.

[StreetCowboy]

I'm still waiting to find out what momentous change came to Thailand around 1400 AD. . .

In 1511, immediately after having conquered Malacca, the Portuguese sent a diplomatic mission headed by Duarte Fernandes to the court of King Ramathibodi II of Ayutthaya.

The first historical record of an attempt to introduce Christianity to Thailand is owed to John Peter Maffei who stated that about 1550 a French Franciscan, Bonferre, hearing of the great kingdom of the Peguans and the Siamese in the East, went on a Portuguese ship from Goa to Cosme (Peguan), where for three years he preached the Gospel, but without any result.

Today there are 292,000 Catholics in Thailand, which represents 0.46% of the total population. There are 10 dioceses with 436 parishes and 662 priests.

See? I told you before; 1400 is before his time...

SC

Edited November 13, 2012 by StreetCowboy

[chiangmaikelly]

I'm still waiting to find out what momentous change came to Thailand around 1400 AD. . .

In 1511, immediately after having conquered Malacca, the Portuguese sent a diplomatic mission headed by Duarte Fernandes to the court of King Ramathibodi II of Ayutthaya.

The first historical record of an attempt to introduce Christianity to Thailand is owed to John Peter Maffei who stated that about 1550 a French Franciscan, Bonferre, hearing of the great kingdom of the Peguans and the Siamese in the East, went on a Portuguese ship from Goa to Cosme (Peguan), where for three years he preached the Gospel, but without any result.

Today there are 292,000 Catholics in Thailand, which represents 0.46% of the total population. There are 10 dioceses with 436 parishes and 662 priests.

See? I told you before; 1400 is before his time...

SC

In a post that spans 500 years you are going to question my veracity for 11 years? My god that sets a new standard in nitpickery.

[BigJohnnyBKK]

In a post that spans 500 years you are going to question my veracity for 11 years? My god that sets a new standard in nitpickery

Well just to raise the np bar, doesn't 1511 - 1400 = 111 ?

And I'm no closer to a clue as to how the events you cite illustrate anything about traditional Thai sexual mores as being especially enlightened compared to other non-monotheistic cultures historically.