SteeleJoe Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 They push the knife up in the heart, not down in the stomach !!! No. Seppuku literally means "stomach cutting" an it's self-disembowelment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrer Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Surely we can put an end to the argument about the finer details by checking the Thai media for the their no doubt, highly respectable photos of the aftermath. The Med guys must have gone through an entire phone with the photos of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yussiesamui Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 "Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. The police took all the recovered property to give to the relatives of the deceased." Wonder what the relatives will do with the milk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Sh*t my PC is really messed up. The first time I saw this thread, I'd thought I'd read it all but I see now it hadn't loaded fully: sorry for the redundancy. (It's fortunate that I didn't embarrass myself even more by trying to show what I studied about such things a very long time ago.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEL1 Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 "Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. The police took all the recovered property to give to the relatives of the deceased." Wonder what the relatives will do with the milk? "Before enlightenment chop under milkwood. After enlightenment,chop under milkwood." Ooops. Sorry, that's a Chinese proverb. Just a few islands apart, though. -mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangjim Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I didn't now TV was into "vague posting." What's with the ridiculous lead-in about a man being pick pocketed resulting in suicide. Eh? Can you elaborate? You can't because there simply is no connection. And then later the article states money was found in his wallet. Eh? C'mon. You guys can write better than this, can't you? By the way: I was pick pocketed in Bangkok on the BTS in 2004. I wanted to commit homicide, not suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Seriously? I can go to Tesco or BigC and get a T-shirt, knife and a bottle of milk and it will be on one receipt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Seriously? I can go to Tesco or BigC and get a T-shirt, knife and a bottle of milk and it will be on one receipt. Not to be pedantic, but Tesco & Big C are not dept. stores. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KhaoNiaw Posted November 23, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2012 Mr. Kosai may have become so stressed that he went out to buy clothes and a knife and a bottle of milk. As you do when you're really stressed... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Seriously? I can go to Tesco or BigC and get a T-shirt, knife and a bottle of milk and it will be on one receipt. Not to be pedantic, but Tesco & Big C are not dept. stores. Tesco changed its format in 2010 to a department store format. BigC has the same format. Posted in Bangkok Post 2010. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Seriously? I can go to Tesco or BigC and get a T-shirt, knife and a bottle of milk and it will be on one receipt. Not to be pedantic, but Tesco & Big C are not dept. stores. Tesco changed its format in 2010 to a department store format. BigC has the same format. Posted in Bangkok Post 2010. If you insist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seismic Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 I thought the correct term was Seppuku, not hari kari - lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku Correct, it is always written as Seppuku, but the spoken form can be hara-kiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteeleJoe Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Seriously? I can go to Tesco or BigC and get a T-shirt, knife and a bottle of milk and it will be on one receipt. Not to be pedantic, but Tesco & Big C are not dept. stores. The term in Thai is the same and they do not necessarily differentiate between those kinds of stores and what you would typically call a "department store". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsetBkk Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 "They expected that it was the hara-kiri knife, and the foreigner had committed the ancient Japanese ritual of suicide by stabbing his abdomen and disemboweling himself." I 'expect ' they meant 'suspect '. One of these: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMick Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 "Mr. Kosai had checked into his room on November 21. Then he came down to ask the staff about the entertainment spots in Surat Thani." Perhaps it was a personal criticism of the entertainment in Surat Thani. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayned Posted November 23, 2012 Share Posted November 23, 2012 Never, ever, fails: They find a scene, speculate based on visual clues, and post it for the public to read as if there had been an investigation. Oh, and of the very few facts they ever include, at least 2 will contradict each other. (pick-pocketed, but had a wallet full of cash) At least they're consistent. And then someone posts it on TV and ALL bets are off! No telling where it will go before it dies or is closed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaccha Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I thought the correct term was Seppuku, not hari kari - lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku Correct, it is always written as Seppuku, but the spoken form can be hara-kiri. No. Hara-kiri is a made up western word, but which nevertheless uses two real japanese words fused together. Japanese generally have not heard the word. Despite this, the news report is right to use the English word since the report is in English, and the Thai version should also, since the Thai for seppuku is hara-kiri. They are not alternative versions of the same word. Hara kiri is simply a nonsense English word. Sent from my HTC Explorer A310e using Thaivisa Connect App Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Police also found a department store receipt for a T-shirt, a knife and a bottle of milk. Which dept. store issues a single receipt for all 3 items? Seriously? I can go to Tesco or BigC and get a T-shirt, knife and a bottle of milk and it will be on one receipt. Not to be pedantic, but Tesco & Big C are not dept. stores. Robinson, instead, is: 3 receipts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 "Mr. Kosai had checked into his room on November 21. Then he came down to ask the staff about the entertainment spots in Surat Thani." Perhaps it was a personal criticism of the entertainment in Surat Thani. Or he wasn't sure, that he found it. Instead of blaming the personal, he blamed himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsobrook Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 (edited) Where did they get the idea that he had been pick pocketed? His wallet was in the room, with money in it. And when they say the knife was nearby do we mean across the room nearby or laying right next to or more likely under the hand he used to "slash" himself with. He went to Tesco and bought a t-shirt, a knife and some milk? Maybe he just wanted to see where the milk went after he drank it. That's just as plausible as him being pick pocketed. Edited November 24, 2012 by metisdead : Bold font removed, again. Please do not post using bold font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcw Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I wonder if it crossed the police mind that the foreigner may have been murdered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprq Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm sorry, but who comes up with these "it may have been" speculations? This has to be the most imaginative one yet. Regardless, sad way to go if true. Your remark is ridiculous. The report shows just the opposite, i.e. it's not a "may have been" case, but a quite obvious case of hari-kiri. It's only "imaginative" to those who know nothing about hari-kiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Payboy Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Huh? Did they run finger prints off the knife? Do Ninja leave fingerprints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancub Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm sorry, but who comes up with these "it may have been" speculations? This has to be the most imaginative one yet. Regardless, sad way to go if true. Your remark is ridiculous. The report shows just the opposite, i.e. it's not a "may have been" case, but a quite obvious case of hari-kiri. It's only "imaginative" to those who know nothing about hari-kiri. Err ....just like it is " a quite obvious case of having been pick-pocketed " ,I suppose then in your book ? Sorry , but to me it's seems a bizarre report on a bizarre , but sad , incident . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bankei Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Hara means stomach, kiri means cut. Bankei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noob7 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I wonder if it crossed the police mind that the foreigner may have been murdered? Naaa, to much paperwork, not good for Thailand's reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 SURAT THANI – November 22, 2012 [PDN]; a report of a foreign tourist killing himself in his hotel room was received by Pol. Lt. Col. Sirichai Suksatt, the detective officer of Muang police station in Surat Thani. A report of a foreign tourist killing himself? Gotta be kidding. Can't make it look like suicide, right? Hope he'll rest in peace and the cops will check for fingerprints etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozfromoz Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I wonder if it crossed the police mind that the foreigner may have been murdered? That would require some of that laborious activity called investigating..........and all of that paperwork. Nah easier to knock it over filling out one form, then we can finish for the day, or go and get some OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfukata Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 In ritualistic hara-kiri if you do not die or pass out the first stab or cut. You have to stab yourself again.. And again This 30 year old guy was hardcore! actually you need another person 'koogi kaishaku-nin' who assist's you in the seppuku ritual to end your suffering by decapitating your head from the back with his samurai katana, so my guess is that this hara-kiri samurai just suffered and bleed to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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