Jayman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The point is not about those that want to splurge for an expensive event on NYE. The point is that travelers that are booked into the hotel will be forced (not offered) to pay for something that they might not even want to partake in just so they have a bed to sleep in for that particular evening. If the party was optional then I don't see this being an issue for complaints. But it's COMPULSORY for all guests whether you intend to attend or not. Whether you have been staying at the hotel for the past week or you are just checking in for that one night. It's basically a tax that is being added to the bills of all guests for that one night. You can call it what you want but I call it unnecessary greed. If not, they wouldn't make it compulsory. What do you expect families that don't feel the need to participate in the gala to do? Check out and find another hotel for the night? Or I guess this is a warning for all future travelers that might be considering Pattaya for their NYE destination. Be prepared to be overcharged. If not prepared for it, find a different destination (Tokyo sounds nice) or stay home. Only the likes of D Trump will be welcomed here these days. The compulsory party is optional. If people don't like the idea they don't book the hotel. That's pretty simple. They know the charges, they know the deal. Take it or leave it. This is just part and parcel of the hotel business. They have an opportunity to make some money and that's their duty to shareholders. I don't think too many people who stay in 5 star hotels at New Year are bothered by the cost of the party and enjoy the occasion. Budget travelers don't book into 5 star hotels at New Year. You mean don't book into a Pattaya hotel for NYE. I am looking at the Dusit booking page and NO compulsory charge is being added for NYE in the Manila locale but here in Pattaya.. forget about it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Ok so let's say a certain countries airlines start charging a compulsory + 2x fare to fly on Xmas day or new year because a special dinner is on. This would be seen as good business throughout the global industry? Don't talk crap. You're the one "talking crap" and flaming I might add. If an airline could charge more for a special flight or occasion, then that would be good business. The question would be - will the customers pay for such a service? Obviously your ridiculous idea would not work. In the case of hotels it does work because they are booked out during these special occasions. Now quit flaming and think before you reply again. Edited December 26, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petercool Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 One of the reasons it is done is to prevent budget tour operators - who might get a deal at other times - from trying to book over the highest season or days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You mean don't book into a Pattaya hotel for NYE. I am looking at the Dusit booking page and NO compulsory charge is being added for NYE in the Manila locale but here in Pattaya.. forget about it.... That's right but they don't have the location or view in Manila that you'll have in Pattaya Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You mean don't book into a Pattaya hotel for NYE. I am looking at the Dusit booking page and NO compulsory charge is being added for NYE in the Manila locale but here in Pattaya.. forget about it.... That's right but they don't have the location or view in Manila that you'll have in Pattaya Bay. What view does D2 have in Pattaya? It's on 2nd road you know. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ok so let's say a certain countries airlines start charging a compulsory + 2x fare to fly on Xmas day or new year because a special dinner is on. This would be seen as good business throughout the global industry? Don't talk crap. You're the one "talking crap" and flaming I might add. If an airline could charge more for a special flight or occasion, then that would be good business. The question would be - will the customers pay for such a service? Obviously your ridiculous idea would not work. In the case of hotels it does work because they are booked out during these special occasions. Now quit flaming and think before you reply again. I think you'll find in developed countries hotels would be empty if they tried this as it would be considered price fixing/gouging and would likely be illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlackPuddingBertha Posted December 26, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Yes and no. There will always be some idiots around who suppose that just because something is expensive it must be good, and these hotels are catering to those idiots. This is even more absurd that calling it "greed and obsession". Now you're calling people who can afford this level of service "idiots". I wouldn't call anyone who has that type of money to blow on a NYE party an "idiot". Idiots don't usually walk around with that amount of spare cash. I'd say you're envious. There are people on this planet with money to burn and if they wish to burn through their cash by spending extravagantly, that's their choice - but don't call these people idiots. To give an extreme example. How much do you think Donald Trump will spend on his NYE celebrations. Shall we call him an idiot too? Oh dear, the same old "if you criticise it then surely you cant afford it" nonsense. How tedious. I have more than enough money to go to things like this but I don't, largely because I dont want to be mistaken for the sort of pretentious clowns that do go to them. I still have some pride. Yes, these affairs are indeed largely attended by idiots with more money than sense. Especially here. Can I be any clearer? Is Donald Trump an idiot? Of course he is. Anyone can tell that just by looking at that stray animal he calls a wig. And on that I rest my case, though if you want more proof of wealthy people being idiots do try George W Bush who has barely enough brains to even qualify for the description of idiot. Edited December 26, 2012 by BlackPuddingBertha 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Inflammatory post and reply removed. Suggest stop flaming please or start packing for a compulsory break from Thai Visa over the holiday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 If the party was optional then I don't see this being an issue for complaints. But it's COMPULSORY for all guests whether you intend to attend or not. Whether you have been staying at the hotel for the past week or you are just checking in for that one night. This is true, but as long as they make it clear when you book it isn't really an issue. Having been informed of the requirement you make your own mind up as to whether you choose to take it or leave it. Other hotels are always available. Those who choose to take it rather than leave it are still idiots though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You mean don't book into a Pattaya hotel for NYE. I am looking at the Dusit booking page and NO compulsory charge is being added for NYE in the Manila locale but here in Pattaya.. forget about it.... That's right but they don't have the location or view in Manila that you'll have in Pattaya Bay. What view does D2 have in Pattaya? It's on 2nd road you know. Hardly - it's after the Dolphon roundabout so it comes off Naklua Road. It has a fine view of Pattaya Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nothing to say Tropo? Sorry, I forgot Thailand was at the global forefront of good business ethics and a hub of good business practices for the rest of the world to admire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You mean don't book into a Pattaya hotel for NYE. I am looking at the Dusit booking page and NO compulsory charge is being added for NYE in the Manila locale but here in Pattaya.. forget about it.... That's right but they don't have the location or view in Manila that you'll have in Pattaya Bay. What view does D2 have in Pattaya? It's on 2nd road you know. Hardly - it's after the Dolphon roundabout so it comes off Naklua Road. It has a fine view of Pattaya Bay. Err.. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Oh dear, the same old "if you criticise it then surely you cant afford it" nonsense. How tedious. I have more than enough money to go to things like this but I don't, largely because I dont want to be mistaken for the sort of pretentious clowns that do go to them. I still have some pride. Yes, these affairs are indeed largely attended by idiots with more money than sense. Especially here. Can I be any clearer? Is Donald Trump an idiot? Of course he is. Anyone can tell that just by looking at that stray animal he calls a wig. And on that I rest my case, though if you want more proof of wealthy people being idiots do try George W Bush who has barely enough brains to even qualify for the description of idiot. It seems to be everyone is an idiot to you. Maybe it's time to look in the mirror? You are absurdly critical of anyone who doesn't mind spending more than you consider sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Nothing to say Tropo? Not to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 (edited) Err.. no Err.... yes! Dusit Thani Pattaya 240/2 Pattaya Beach Road Edited December 26, 2012 by tropo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Err.. no Err.... yes! Dusit Thani Pattaya 240/2 Pattaya Beach Road Ok. Have your driver drop you off at the Dusit Thani on beach road. After trying to check in and realising you are infact at the wrong hotel. Enjoy your walk back to the Dusit D2 half way along 2nd road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The D2 is on 2nd Road next door to The Avenue. It does have a view of the bay and the fireworks, but probably not as good as the view from the Hilton. The Dusit is a different place altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ok so let's say a certain countries airlines start charging a compulsory + 2x fare to fly on Xmas day or new year because a special dinner is on. This would be seen as good business throughout the global industry? Don't talk crap. Try and buy a ticket to fly from the UK to Thailand either in early April or between 10th and 24th December. You'll find that airlines do indeed charge extra because a special event is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The D2 is on 2nd Road next door to The Avenue.It does have a view of the bay and the fireworks, but probably not as good as the view from the Hilton. The Dusit is a different place altogether. It's only 6 or 7 floors and 90% of the rooms look down onto the swimming pool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Err.. no Err.... yes! Dusit Thani Pattaya 240/2 Pattaya Beach Road Ok. Have your driver drop you off at the Dusit Thani on beach road. After trying to check in and realising you are infact at the wrong hotel. Enjoy your walk back to the Dusit D2 half way along 2nd road. My reply was in relation to the following comment. It should be pretty obvious that I was referring to the Dusit Hotel on the Bay. " I am looking at the Dusit booking page and NO compulsory charge is being added for NYE in the Manila locale but here in Pattaya.. forget about it...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ok so let's say a certain countries airlines start charging a compulsory + 2x fare to fly on Xmas day or new year because a special dinner is on. This would be seen as good business throughout the global industry? Don't talk crap. Try and buy a ticket to fly from the UK to Thailand either in early April or between 10th and 24th December. You'll find that airlines do indeed charge extra because a special event is on. What's the additional charge called? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You are absurdly critical of anyone who doesn't mind spending more than you consider sensible. Is there a law or forum rule against that? I know many people who are much smarter and much richer than I am, but I dont think that any of them would end up in an obligatory NYE "do" as a result of booking a hotel room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbrain Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ok so let's say a certain countries airlines start charging a compulsory + 2x fare to fly on Xmas day or new year because a special dinner is on. This would be seen as good business throughout the global industry? Don't talk crap. Try and buy a ticket to fly from the UK to Thailand either in early April or between 10th and 24th December. You'll find that airlines do indeed charge extra because a special event is on. It seems that for the past few years every day is a special event for the airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 What view does D2 have in Pattaya? It's on 2nd road you know. Hardly - it's after the Dolphon roundabout so it comes off Naklua Road. It has a fine view of Pattaya Bay. Ahhhh ok, perhaps I was a little heavy on the vodka last night. I seem to be seeing D's and 2's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The D2 is on 2nd Road next door to The Avenue.It does have a view of the bay and the fireworks, but probably not as good as the view from the Hilton. The Dusit is a different place altogether. It's only 6 or 7 floors and 90% of the rooms look down onto the swimming pool? Sorry, I was talking about the rooftop area where they hold their "events". That does have a fair view of the bay. I saw some fireworks from up there last year, and it wasnt bad. Not as good as the view from the Edge in the Hilton though. I agree that there will no special view from the rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 You are absurdly critical of anyone who doesn't mind spending more than you consider sensible. Is there a law or forum rule against that? No, but calling successful self made businessmen and 2 term US presidents "idiots" is a bit idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankold Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The D2 is on 2nd Road next door to The Avenue.It does have a view of the bay and the fireworks, but probably not as good as the view from the Hilton. The Dusit is a different place altogether. It's only 6 or 7 floors and 90% of the rooms look down onto the swimming pool? Sorry, I was talking about the rooftop area where they hold their "events". That does have a fair view of the bay. I saw some fireworks from up there last year, and it wasnt bad. Not as good as the view from the Edge in the Hilton though. I agree that there will no special view from the rooms. I never made it further than the upstairs bar unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tropo Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 What view does D2 have in Pattaya? It's on 2nd road you know. Hardly - it's after the Dolphon roundabout so it comes off Naklua Road. It has a fine view of Pattaya Bay. Ahhhh ok, perhaps I was a little heavy on the vodka last night. I seem to be seeing D's and 2's. Fair enough - he switched Dusit to D2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endure Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Ok so let's say a certain countries airlines start charging a compulsory + 2x fare to fly on Xmas day or new year because a special dinner is on. This would be seen as good business throughout the global industry? Don't talk crap. Try and buy a ticket to fly from the UK to Thailand either in early April or between 10th and 24th December. You'll find that airlines do indeed charge extra because a special event is on. What's the additional charge called? About £150 most years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackPuddingBertha Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 No, but calling successful self made businessmen and 2 term US presidents "idiots" is a bit idiotic. I disagree. Both are quite patently idiots. Successful and rich idiots maybe, but still idiots. Want another example? How about Mr McAfee who has been in the news recently? Also an idiot. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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