Going "all In" In Thailand........

[Humbugged]

I am talking about legal rights. You have none. It is not my experience it is the law. Has nothing to do with gonads. Bluster all you like. Lawyers and cops have a field day with people like you.

You are quite funny kerry in your own naive way.

My gonads are bigger than yours....obviously.

Your children's future is 100% in the hands of a Thai woman who you are not married to. Everyone who can read knows that. I have never felt confident giving another person so much of a legal advantage over me. I married two women to take care of my children. I married them for the children and not for myself. I sleep very well at night. If I had not done everything I could have done to safeguard my children I would not sleep well at night. Just me. That's the way I am.

Thats interesting kerry, but your assumptions are very wrong.

To presume...like you do all too often....is to get it wrong and look the fool.

[chiangmaikelly]

I am talking about legal rights. You have none. It is not my experience it is the law. Has nothing to do with gonads. Bluster all you like. Lawyers and cops have a field day with people like you.

You are quite funny kerry in your own naive way.

My gonads are bigger than yours....obviously.

Your children's future is 100% in the hands of a Thai woman who you are not married to. Everyone who can read knows that. I have never felt confident giving another person so much of a legal advantage over me. I married two women to take care of my children. I married them for the children and not for myself. I sleep very well at night. If I had not done everything I could have done to safeguard my children I would not sleep well at night. Just me. That's the way I am.

Thats interesting kerry, but your assumptions are very wrong.

To presume...like you do all too often....is to get it wrong and look the fool.

So correct me. Otherwise tis you who look the fool. No one wants to assume something bad about a person. I'd like to know you are a reputable fellow. If you are all in, in Thailand you can tell us. I'm sure no one will think less of you.

[Humbugged]

Your children's future is 100% in the hands of a Thai woman who you are not married to. Everyone who can read knows that. I have never felt confident giving another person so much of a legal advantage over me. I married two women to take care of my children. I married them for the children and not for myself. I sleep very well at night. If I had not done everything I could have done to safeguard my children I would not sleep well at night. Just me. That's the way I am.

Thats interesting kerry, but your assumptions are very wrong.

To presume...like you do all too often....is to get it wrong and look the fool.

So correct me. Otherwise tis you who look the fool. No one wants to assume something bad about a person. I'd like to know you are a reputable fellow. If you are all in, in Thailand you can tell us. I'm sure no one will think less of you.

But your opinion of all in is different to mine and hence your thoughts would then be wrong also based on my answer, so it is pointless.

[TommoPhysicist]

So correct me. Otherwise tis you who look the fool. No one wants to assume something bad about a person. I'd like to know you are a reputable fellow. If you are all in, in Thailand you can tell us. I'm sure no one will think less of you.

I don't think you can win any sort of discussion when facing this level of delusion.

It's a little like the guys dating hookers and claiming the girls are respectable.

Don't ask me why some guys act like this, I haven't a clue.

[DiamondKing]

I am talking about legal rights. You have none. It is not my experience it is the law. Has nothing to do with gonads. Bluster all you like. Lawyers and cops have a field day with people like you.

You are quite funny kerry in your own naive way.

My gonads are bigger than yours....obviously.

Your children's future is 100% in the hands of a Thai woman who you are not married to. Everyone who can read knows that. I have never felt confident giving another person so much of a legal advantage over me. I married two women to take care of my children. I married them for the children and not for myself. I sleep very well at night. If I had not done everything I could have done to safeguard my children I would not sleep well at night. Just me. That's the way I am.

Thats interesting kerry, but your assumptions are very wrong.

To presume...like you do all too often....is to get it wrong and look the fool.

Humbug

You might want to check your facts, it is indeed true that if you are not married you are not recognized as the father of the child even if your name is on the birth certificate and you would not be able to take that child anywhere and all rights are with the Thai girl now if you are a single father and have followed those requirements of registration then that would give you parental rights but outside of that you have none.

I am not here to argue the point because the point is very clear and those other posters are correct and it seems you are misinformed in what you think your rights are as a non wedded father of a child who in thailand has no rights and is not even recognized as the father of the child.

DK

[Humbugged]

You are quite funny kerry in your own naive way.

My gonads are bigger than yours....obviously.

Your children's future is 100% in the hands of a Thai woman who you are not married to. Everyone who can read knows that. I have never felt confident giving another person so much of a legal advantage over me. I married two women to take care of my children. I married them for the children and not for myself. I sleep very well at night. If I had not done everything I could have done to safeguard my children I would not sleep well at night. Just me. That's the way I am.

Thats interesting kerry, but your assumptions are very wrong.

To presume...like you do all too often....is to get it wrong and look the fool.

Humbug

You might want to check your facts, it is indeed true that if you are not married you are not recognized as the father of the child even if your name is on the birth certificate and you would not be able to take that child anywhere and all rights are with the Thai girl now if you are a single father and have followed those requirements of registration then that would give you parental rights but outside of that you have none.

I am not here to argue the point because the point is very clear and those other posters are correct and it seems you are misinformed in what you think your rights are as a non wedded father of a child who in thailand has no rights and is not even recognized as the father of the child.

DK

You must have similar dna to kerry....you happen to also be wrong, but don't let that stand in your way.

I, like kerry, sleep well most nights, but for different reasons than kerry....and as a bonus and pat on my back....I did not have to marry for it.....talk about tricked into a situation...

[DiamondKing]

Like you have been asked before if we are all wrong and you are right then prove it else you look like a mouthpiece that is just blowing Hot air

I will be the first to say i was wrong but if you cant provide any ACCURATE info other than say we are wrong and you are right then you start to look like a <deleted>

DK

Edited January 11, 2013 by DiamondKing

[Humbugged]

Its not about me looking like a fool or <deleted>...I am comfortable with that look, have had it for years naturally.....it is about kerry assuming and laughing that any father here does not have the gumption to stand up for themselves and take charge, just because he is not married......his mileage may differ to mine...obviously.....I have made the decision thus far for my kids and shall continue to do so...even if that meant moving to a school overseas next week....it would happen.

[DiamondKing]

Its not about me looking like a fool or <deleted>...I am comfortable with that look, have had it for years naturally.....it is about kerry assuming and laughing that any father here does not have the gumption to stand up for themselves and take charge, just because he is not married......his mileage may differ to mine...obviously.....I have made the decision thus far for my kids and shall continue to do so...even if that meant moving to a school overseas next week....it would happen.

So you agree that you do indeed, have no rights as a father under thai law since you are not married ???

You may of course take charge of your children as long as the mother is submissive to you but the moment she brings in the thai law to back her you will have no such privilage

Edited January 11, 2013 by DiamondKing

[Humbugged]

Its not about me looking like a fool or <deleted>...I am comfortable with that look, have had it for years naturally.....it is about kerry assuming and laughing that any father here does not have the gumption to stand up for themselves and take charge, just because he is not married......his mileage may differ to mine...obviously.....I have made the decision thus far for my kids and shall continue to do so...even if that meant moving to a school overseas next week....it would happen.

So you agree that you do indeed, have no rights as a father under thai law since you are not married ???

You may of course take charge of your children as long as the mother is submissive to you but the moment she brings in the thai law you will have no such privelage

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

[DiamondKing]

Its not about me looking like a fool or <deleted>...I am comfortable with that look, have had it for years naturally.....it is about kerry assuming and laughing that any father here does not have the gumption to stand up for themselves and take charge, just because he is not married......his mileage may differ to mine...obviously.....I have made the decision thus far for my kids and shall continue to do so...even if that meant moving to a school overseas next week....it would happen.

So you agree that you do indeed, have no rights as a father under thai law since you are not married ???

You may of course take charge of your children as long as the mother is submissive to you but the moment she brings in the thai law you will have no such privelage

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

Talk about skirting the issue LOL there is more to your story than you are letting on

So how have you done that then ????? stop pussyfooting about LOL

I really dont care but TIT just be sure you are covered because you have a visa because you showed the Birth certificate and the mother is not contesting it but if she did things would change

now if that is not the case then explain Please

Edited January 11, 2013 by DiamondKing

[Humbugged]

So you agree that you do indeed, have no rights as a father under thai law since you are not married ???

You may of course take charge of your children as long as the mother is submissive to you but the moment she brings in the thai law you will have no such privelage

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

Talk about skirting the issue LOL there is more to your story than you are letting on

So how have you done that then ????? stop pussyfooting about LOL

I really dont care but TIT just be sure you are covered because you have a visa because you showed the Birth certificate and the mother is not contesting it but if she did things would change

now if that is not the case then explain Please

The birth certificate is the least of the problems....anyone can be on that piece of paper.

I am off for a nap now....all this discussion is tiring.

Hope I have helped.

[DiamondKing]

So you agree that you do indeed, have no rights as a father under thai law since you are not married ???

You may of course take charge of your children as long as the mother is submissive to you but the moment she brings in the thai law you will have no such privelage

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

Talk about skirting the issue LOL there is more to your story than you are letting on

So how have you done that then ????? stop pussyfooting about LOL

I really dont care but TIT just be sure you are covered because you have a visa because you showed the Birth certificate and the mother is not contesting it but if she did things would change

now if that is not the case then explain Please

The birth certificate is the least of the problems....anyone can be on that piece of paper.

I am off for a nap now....all this discussion is tiring.

Hope I have helped.

Your story must be really embarrasing for you, but remember there are lots of guys that have been really silly in their choices also your not alone

have a nice nap

Edited January 11, 2013 by DiamondKing

[andrew]

So correct me. Otherwise tis you who look the fool. No one wants to assume something bad about a person. I'd like to know you are a reputable fellow. If you are all in, in Thailand you can tell us. I'm sure no one will think less of you.

I don't think you can win any sort of discussion when facing this level of delusion.

It's a little like the guys dating hookers and claiming the girls are respectable.

Don't ask me why some guys act like this, I haven't a clue.

Just read all this thread.

You two guys are correct. This Humbug chappy is either a troll or a nutter.

I really don't get this petty one-upmanship re: "I gained custody".

When I got divorced, I automatically assumed that she'd get custody. It's not something I ever thought of contesting since I believe it's a woman's job to raise kids.

Edited January 11, 2013 by andrew

[mjj]

A woman's job to raise kids...........oh, dear......

[bigbamboo]

To go back to the original question I went 'all in' .....albeit a bit at a time (!)....... not because of the country but because of my wife (professional job, good family etc) who I'd already known and lived with in England and Thailand for three years. It wasn't a huge risk and that was ten years ago.

Would I do it again? If the circumstances were similar.... maybe.

Otherwise not.

[TommoPhysicist]

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

That would be because your home country has different laws from Thailand.

Thailand has very different laws about unmarried fathers than the Western Countries.

[David48]

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

That would be because your home country has different laws from Thailand.

Thailand has very different laws about unmarried fathers than the Western Countries.

What makes you think his 'home country' isn't Thailand?

.

[DiamondKing]

Crikey....No.....I have normal rights.....I also have a visa for them for the last several years, based on those parental rights.....if i was not seen as the father....how would I get a parental visa for thai children ?

That would be because your home country has different laws from Thailand.

Thailand has very different laws about unmarried fathers than the Western Countries.

What makes you think his 'home country' isn't Thailand?

.

READ THE THREAD

He has a visa if his home country was thailand he would not need a visa now would he

[David48]

What makes you think his 'home country' isn't Thailand?.

READ THE THREAD

He has a visa if his home country was thailand he would not need a visa now would he

Let me have a go at how that should have been written so the statement could be comprehended correctly ...

'He' has a visa. If his home country was Thailand he would not need a visa now would he ?

A question to DiamondKing ... So 'He' is the member Humbugged?

There is a difference between someone's 'home country', or in other words, their primary country of residence ... and someone being a Thai national.

A person can be 'all in', living in Thailand as their home, not be a Thai national ... and still need a Visa to live here ... or DiamondKing would you like to disagree with that statement?

.

[DiamondKing]

What makes you think his 'home country' isn't Thailand?.

READ THE THREAD

He has a visa if his home country was thailand he would not need a visa now would he

Let me have a go at how that should have been written so the statement could be comprehended correctly ...

'He' has a visa. If his home country was Thailand he would not need a visa now would he ?

A question to DiamondKing ... So 'He' is the member Humbugged?

There is a difference between someone's 'home country', or in other words, their primary country of residence ... and someone being a Thai national.

A person can be 'all in', living in Thailand as their home, not be a Thai national ... and still need a Visa to live here ... or DiamondKing would you like to disagree with that statement?

.

Great post

[Humbugged]

Your story must be really embarrasing for you, but remember there are lots of guys that have been really silly in their choices also your not alone

have a nice nap

I did, thanks.

I fail to see why anything in regards to the best well being and decision making for my kids should be embarrassing for me....care to explain exactly ?

Just read all this thread.

You two guys are correct. This Humbug chappy is either a troll or a nutter.

I really don't get this petty one-upmanship re: "I gained custody".

When I got divorced, I automatically assumed that she'd get custody. It's not something I ever thought of contesting since I believe it's a woman's job to raise kids.

So you can read....good for you.

I prefer to look at the other side of the coin...the one that says you could not be arsed to raise or care for your children and preferred the easy route of desertion....class

[Crushdepth]

Living in Thailand long term, but investing in a saner, less risky country elsewhere. No need to be all in.

[andrew]

Just read all this thread.

You two guys are correct. This Humbug chappy is either a troll or a nutter.

I really don't get this petty one-upmanship re: "I gained custody".

When I got divorced, I automatically assumed that she'd get custody. It's not something I ever thought of contesting since I believe it's a woman's job to raise kids.

So you can read....good for you.

I prefer to look at the other side of the coin...the one that says you could not be arsed to raise or care for your children and preferred the easy route of desertion....class

So you can read....good for you.

OMG!

you could not be arsed to raise or care for your children

OMFG!

you ... preferred the easy route of desertion

Enough. Please. Get me outta here. This guy's a nutter!

[BookMan]

Enough. Please. Get me outta here. This guy's a nutter!

I hope it will not be a 10 year absence this time!

[Scully]

Just read all this thread.

You two guys are correct. This Humbug chappy is either a troll or a nutter.

I really don't get this petty one-upmanship re: "I gained custody".

When I got divorced, I automatically assumed that she'd get custody. It's not something I ever thought of contesting since I believe it's a woman's job to raise kids.

So you can read....good for you.

I prefer to look at the other side of the coin...the one that says you could not be arsed to raise or care for your children and preferred the easy route of desertion....class

So you can read....good for you.

OMG!

you could not be arsed to raise or care for your children

OMFG!

you ... preferred the easy route of desertion

Enough. Please. Get me outta here. This guy's a nutter!

Pot kettle black

[andrew]

...... the bulk of my money is in the UK and Hong Kong (as well as my beloved jalopy ).

I knew a guy once who had his (beloved) car shipped here from England. No idea how much it cost, though.

[andrew]

Enough. Please. Get me outta here. This guy's a nutter!

I hope it will not be a 10 year absence this time!

Maybe I'm just too sober for all this. Maybe I need to go out and get a nice big bottle of Hong Thong.

Yeah!!!!!

[Rob8891]

Andrew.... Why does a seemingly articulate individual feel the need to use his time and ability to troll? You really do not need to be so rude to other posters.

Yes, maybe it is time to re-charge your batteries (with alcohol if that is what floats your boat).... Try a trickle-charge (another 10 years should do it. No one will miss you).

[Humbugged]

...... the bulk of my money is in the UK and Hong Kong (as well as my beloved jalopy ).

I knew a guy once who had his (beloved) car shipped here from England. No idea how much it cost, though.

Outstanding.

Thanks for that.

I knew a guy once also.