Delivering Supporting Documents To The British Embassy

[Kevin1908]

ok now seems I didn't send the Embassy nearly enough stuff and a level of criticism was levelled at me to I am providing everything that they might conceivable need.

2 problems despite breaking down the 85 mb of data into 21 emails soem are still too big to send so I will rescan them into yet more documents. I did think of compressing them but too be honest since they haven't looked at the hard copy that I already send would they actually go to the trouble of uncompressing a file.

Now I am getting messages that the receipients in box is full.

This is a nightmare. I try to be reasonable and not flood them with data and it seems it isn't enough. I try to send more and the system gets clogged up.

Anybody know if they accept compressed files I could fax it but I would be all week faxing.

[theoldgit]

Are you saying the UKBA have emailed you and asked for more evidence?

If so what have they asked for? I wouldn't overwhelm them with unneccesary evidence.

I have no idea if they can uncompress files, they certainly didn't do so before, Tony M may be able to advise.

[David48]

Hi there Kevin 1908 ... normally I don't delve into the UK Visa questions ... but your relationship interests me.

May I ask if the lady in question who is applying for the Visa is the same one that you mentioned in this OP?

[beano2274]

I thought the applicant had to take them to the VFS?

[theoldgit]

Beano, you are correct in saying that application's and supporting evidence have to be lodged at VFS, but Kevin's post suggests he has already done this and they have asked for supplementary evidence.

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[beano2274]

Beano, you are correct in saying that application's and supporting evidence have to be lodged at VFS, but Kevin's post suggests he has already done this and they have asked for supplementary evidence.

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Question is does the Embassy want its servers clogged by stuff, I doubt it, I would think and maybe they were told to supply the documents, however by hand not by email.

Most companies and offices limit the inbox of individuals so this has obviously happened.

[theoldgit]

@Beano, yes I think you are correct, we will have to see what Kevin's response is.

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[Kevin1908]

They have asked by email to [email protected], by fax or delivery to any VFS Visa Application Centre. email seems the most obvious but I agree with the flooding them with documentation bit. They have specifically asked for it. It seems unreasonable to me based on what was already send but on the basis that a failure to send it is in itself a reason for rejection I had no choice.

I checked with my ISP and although they could cope with up to 40 mb on one email they advised not to exceed 20 mb. The three biggys 18mb 11 mb and 8 mb I have rescanned into seperate documents to make them smaller. As I said the trouble now is the inbox is full. But it was full after only sending 3 emails.

[ThaiVisaExpress]

The problem is not with you sending, it is with the Embassy receiving. Embassy email inboxes are incredibly small. The visa section inbox ( visadocument...... ) is sure to be overwhelmed by what you are trying to send. You will have to send very small emails ( lots of them), or deliver to VFS. Don't forget there is a probably a timeframe, maybe 10 days, to get the documents to the ECO.

Tony M

Edited February 4, 2013 by ThaiVisaExpress

[Kevin1908]

Yes I realise that it is their in box that is the problem. I have broken it down into small chunks to no avail as the inbox is full. I can try again tomorrow but then my 10 days is up. How small is their in box for Gods sake. This is the British Embassy. My own work in box seems to have a bigger capacity that the whole British Embassy. No doubt it is clogged up with all the applications that sit their until somebody gets around to dealing with them.

Had I known that email was a problem I would have burnt it to dvd and couriered it there. Don't tell me they don't have a dvd reader.

Strangely enough they phoned the wife today to ask her when she wants to travel so I am not sure why they are asking this now in advance of the 10 day deadline. and needing a lot more information from me.

[theoldgit]

Don't tell me they don't have a dvd reader.

Unless things have changed, no they don't, because of the risk of introducing a virus from an unknown source onto their network.

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[Kevin1908]

"because of the risk of introducing a virus from an unknown source onto their network"

Like an email?

[coltc]

Wonder if you could use one of the "email a download link" services, like yousendit.com

Just a thought

[beano2274]

sorry but it has taken you ten days already?

My lotus notes in my office is very small under 10MB, Hotmail used to be the same. Remember you are not the only person sending documents and it is not just the total in the inbox but the total for the application including sent emails and other emails.

And the Embassy is not an IT Shop, they do not have DVD players or recorders. Email can be scanned by the server before passing thus eliminating the chances of viruses.

[Kevin1908]

Most of the documents were ready last week. I was waiting for 2 items from HMRC. Confirmation of Child Benefit and SA302 for 2011/12.

Child benefit payments had already been sent and were on the bank statements sent with the application but this appeared not to be good enough. I exceed the minimum earnings requirement by some way without taking into account th CB anyway. I was therefore waiting for this before sending the final documents. I still don't have the SA302 so I have got other documents to prove total earnings.

I am now confused by the CB because according to the FCO document I saw posted here this morning CB payments are not taken into account when considering earnings. So why do they want them anyway?

I accept that I am not the only one sending data but surely for £1600 its isn't too much to ask for a reasonable level of service. It is the Government after all that is pushing IT solutions above everything else. If they can't cope why not make it mandatory that files are compressed. If they can't cope then don't offer sending an email as an option.

When I sent paper tax returns I didn't expect the IR to nail up the letter box because the couldn't cope with the rush.

This problem is the Embassy's own making but demanding huge amounts of irrelavent data.

Also regarding the 10 days, I do have a job to do as well. I may well compress the files anyway and send tomorrow and hope for the best and send uncompressed afterwards. I assume if they can't understand a bank statemen then there is little chance they can uncompress a file.

[theoldgit]

"because of the risk of introducing a virus from an unknown source onto their network"

Like an email?

No, an attachment.

[theoldgit]

Kevin, you still haven't said what supplementary evidence the UKBA have requested, I assume that you have already submitted the bulk of your evidence, 85mb over and above what you have already submitted does seem to be rather excessive.

I'm sorry but I really don't see how this problem is of the embassy's making.

[beano2274]

Sorry checked my email box size is 100MB, but that included sent, drafts and inbox.

I have previously done visas for my wife and MIL to the UK, used the UKBA website and asked questions on here to check what was required, every time they have been successful.

Kevin, why not get your GF to take them to the VFS office or send them registered mail. It is not the Embassy asking for too much, you have obviously supplied not enough.

[Kevin1908]

Why have a have I obviously not sent enough. Most of what I am sending they already have. I don't see what is wrong with expecting them to accept emails. This is costing £1600 after all. Can I send to them. that will take too long.

Can I send to the gf. She has a hotmail account. How long will it take to send 85 mb, down load and print it.

By the way the Ambassy does not take compressed files. No wonder thier in box is full.

I don't think it is acceptable for the FCO to simple ahrug their shoulders and say the applicant has to do all the running here and blame everything on them.

[Kevin1908]

"because of the risk of introducing a virus from an unknown source onto their network"

Like an email?

No, an attachment

The comment was addressed to the ability to scan incoming emails for viruses but they can't accept a dvd, can they not scan a dvd?

[beano2274]

Why have a have I obviously not sent enough. Most of what I am sending they already have. I don't see what is wrong with expecting them to accept emails. This is costing £1600 after all. Can I send to them. that will take too long.

Can I send to the gf. She has a hotmail account. How long will it take to send 85 mb, down load and print it.

By the way the Ambassy does not take compressed files. No wonder thier in box is full.

I don't think it is acceptable for the FCO to simple ahrug their shoulders and say the applicant has to do all the running here and blame everything on them.

How is this costing you 1600GBP, also your GF is the one who is applying. And do you think people should run after you for something you want.

It has been stated before that your GF could take them to VFS herself, easy option as then you know they are there.

[7by7]

Beano, the easiest option would have been for him to do as he was advised on this forum several months ago, before the application was submitted; submit all the asked for documents in the first place!

[Kevin1908]

"How is this costing you 1600GBP, also your GF is the one who is applying. And do you think people should run after you for something you want.

It has been stated before that your GF could take them to VFS herself, easy option as then you know they are there"

Correct me if I am wrong each application is £800 (or there abouts) so with son £1600. (2X800) when I went to school anyway.

Do I think people should run after me, did I say that. I am asking why haveing an empty email inbox is an issue or not. The Government is the one pushing IT like ther is no tomorrow.

GF can take the them to VFS herself. Well I still have the problem now of getting the stuff to her don't I and her printing hundreds of pages of stuff. hence I thought that email would be the easy solution. How stupid of me.

Again the question of asking the questions here several months ago. Yes easy in hindsight. As I said there would not be a problem if the Embassy could take emails. If the Government can't cope then don't promote electronic means of communication in the first place.

Anyway this is going no where.

[7by7]

The problem is not that you didn't ask the questions; the problem is that you did ask, but ignored the answers!

As said to you before, the ECOs have absolutely no choice in the matter. The regulatons say what documents are required and if those documents are not provided then they may request them, or they could simply refuse.

You've been lucky, they have given you another chance; stop whingeing and take it.

BTW, as far as I recall, this is the first time you have mentioned that a child is applying as well. How can you expect to get pertinent advice if you don't give all the facts?

[Kevin1908]

"The problem is not that you didn't ask the questions; the problem is that you did ask, but ignored the answers!

As said to you before, the ECOs have absolutely no choice in the matter. The regulatons say what documents are required and if those documents are not provided then they may request them, or they could simply refuse.

You've been lucky, they have given you another chance; stop whingeing and take it.

BTW, as far as I recall, this is the first time you have mentioned that a child is applying as well. How can you expect to get pertinent advice if you don't give all the facts?"

Well acording to the updated document that posted yesterday it doesn't specify the documents required. The words were, to the effect, it is up to the applicant to satisfy ther requirements are met. As far as I can see there id no requirement for specific documentation.

You say that I didn't supply the documents thatI was advied to send. I did. The issue is they have now asked that all the bank statements are annotated with payments so that thay can be cross referred to the wage slips. I was not awre of that and I have not seen you give the advice that bank statements need to be annotated.

The relavance of the child is what exactly? How does that affect anything that I have to supply? First and foremost is my wife's application.

As I have said before who is whinging. If you are saying that I should have expected not to be able to send this because of the Embassys's IT system then I don't agree. You see that as whinging. I see that as a crap IT system. Never in my life have I encountered not being able to send an email due to a full in box.

You can give as many insults as you like and it doesn't alter the facts that you twist and distort to suit your arguement. I think you need to look at some of the documentation that you publish before levelling criticism.

[beano2274]

5.4.3.2.1

[theoldgit]

Anyway this is going no where.

I agree - closed