Concern Over Illegal Disposal Of Waste

[Semper]

Luckily Thailand has no nuclear waste to dispose of.

[MESmith]

Luckily Thailand has no nuclear waste to dispose of.

I thought they have a lab sized reactor. Where does the waste go? Down the plug hole?

[chooka]

Luckily Thailand has no nuclear waste to dispose of.

wait until they build those nuclear power plants they have planned. if they don't blow up due to shortcuts and corruption then they will poison the rivers, streams and farmlands.

Edited February 25, 2013 by chooka

[cup-O-coffee]

I think the whole point of this particular article is merely to state that Thais are concerned. It ends there.

And Thais will never tell you they are concerned unless you ask. If you don't ask, you'd never know. So, perhaps the overall point that comes out of this is that, if you ask a Thai, and the Thai thinks they are getting some kind of attention or publicity, they will regale you with yarns and yarns of amazing things. If you do not ask, it will not impinge upon their pea-sized brains to make or do anything out of the itch on their bums.

Now; if, let's say, it's a foreigner at the root of the cause, then indeed their would be action. Thais put the Samurai to shame when it comes to putting aside their own ignorance and disputes and banding together to bleed the foreigner dry and spit out a dried and useless husk.

For example: Thais are poisoning their environment and their own people, yet nothing is done. No one complains. No one cares. This is murder in my view. On the other hand, Russians run legal companies and the Thais complain that the Russians are taking "their jobs" (which, incidentally they couldn't compete with the Russian skilled foreigner if the Russians were hog-tied and blind) and all Hell breaks loose. "Oh my god! The Russians could possibly be taking away the opportunity that Thais are too (Rule No.3) stupid to make for themselves!".

See?

No foreigners; no action; and you, as a Thai, can get away with murder, because your only obstacle is a cheap watered down version of genuine "concern".

Edited February 25, 2013 by cup-O-coffee

[Pimay1]

Luckily Thailand has no nuclear waste to dispose of.

wait until they build those nuclear power plants they have planned. if they don't blow up due to shortcuts and corruption then they will poison the rivers, streams and farmlands.

As much as I love this country and living here, Thailand building nuclear power plants much less maintaining them is absolutely unthinkabe. I am not casting aspersions on the Thais. The skill sets and work ethics are simply not here and I don't foresee them being here for many years to come. And we all know they would never do the same as Saudi Arabia does with their oil wells and let foreigners come in here to build and maintain the nuclear plants.

[dcutman]

BANGKOK, Feb 24 - The Industry Ministry is to propose to a cabinet
meeting its 5-year Bt5.8 billion budget plan for Thailand's industrial
sector's pollution management once the plan is approved by the Industry
Minister and the Office of National Environment Board.

Permanent Secretary for Industry Witoon Simachokedee said the move
followed the Cabinet's resolution in March last year to have the
ministry map out the pollution management plan.

He said the new pollution management plan, comprising 124 projects, can

support new investments in the country, strengthen Thailand's
industrial sector, and enable the sector to be competitive at the
international level.

Five main measures are designed in the plan:

1) Supporting environmentally-friendly industrial production to be allocated with Bt3.9 billion.

2) Increasing ability to inspect and control sources of waste (Bt1.3 billion).

3) Managing chemical waste (Bt137 million).

4) Improving human resources in the industrial sector and local communities (Bt190 million).

5) Implementing environmental management to welcome the ASEAN Economic
Community (AEC) in 2015 and to comply with international commitment to
other countries (Bt102 million). (MCOT online news) http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=5129f0bb150ba0c2520000ee#.USrn2ldP_yU

Not a real big budget for such a serious and vast problem (note budget over a 5 year period)

Edited February 25, 2013 by dcutman

[chooka]

BANGKOK, Feb 24 - The Industry Ministry is to propose to a cabinet

meeting its 5-year Bt5.8 billion budget plan for Thailand's industrial

sector's pollution management once the plan is approved by the Industry

Minister and the Office of National Environment Board.

Permanent Secretary for Industry Witoon Simachokedee said the move

followed the Cabinet's resolution in March last year to have the

ministry map out the pollution management plan.

He said the new pollution management plan, comprising 124 projects, can

support new investments in the country, strengthen Thailand's

industrial sector, and enable the sector to be competitive at the

international level.

Five main measures are designed in the plan:

1) Supporting environmentally-friendly industrial production to be allocated with Bt3.9 billion.

2) Increasing ability to inspect and control sources of waste (Bt1.3 billion).

3) Managing chemical waste (Bt137 million).

4) Improving human resources in the industrial sector and local communities (Bt190 million).

5) Implementing environmental management to welcome the ASEAN Economic

Community (AEC) in 2015 and to comply with international commitment to

other countries (Bt102 million). (MCOT online news) http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=5129f0bb150ba0c2520000ee#.USrn2ldP_yU

Not a real big budget for such a serious and vast problem (note budget over a 5 year period)

And by the time everyone takes thier personal slice of the funds pie they will be left with a few satang. Then back to the government and ask for more and the wheel goes around again and again and nothing gets done as the money disapears.

[Ricardo]

Luckily Thailand has no nuclear waste to dispose of.

If only that were so, but in fact Thailand had its very own nuclear-accident, already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samut_Prakan_radiation_accident

[Thai at Heart]

There are licensed hazardous waste disposal companies.

Problem is, you have to pay them.

[dcutman]

There are licensed hazardous waste disposal companies.

Problem is, you have to pay them.

In some cases, companies have paid these licensed disposal companies, to later find out it was illegally dumped.

As of 2001, according

to industry monitors, less than 10% of the

estimated 1 million tons of hazardous waste

produced in the country was properly stabilized,

processed and disposed of. The rest was dumped

either into rivers, into open dumps or unregulated

private properties, or at sea. The 25%-state-owned

General Environmental Conservation Public Co, or

Genco, has long held a local monopoly on

industrial-waste disposal - but until recently

only had the capacity to handle a mere 20% of

Thailand's annually produced toxic waste,

according to industry experts.

[Thai at Heart]

There are licensed hazardous waste disposal companies.

Problem is, you have to pay them.

In some cases, companies have paid these licensed disposal companies, to later find out it was illegally dumped.

As of 2001, according

to industry monitors, less than 10% of the

estimated 1 million tons of hazardous waste

produced in the country was properly stabilized,

processed and disposed of. The rest was dumped

either into rivers, into open dumps or unregulated

private properties, or at sea. The 25%-state-owned

General Environmental Conservation Public Co, or

Genco, has long held a local monopoly on

industrial-waste disposal - but until recently

only had the capacity to handle a mere 20% of

Thailand's annually produced toxic waste,

according to industry experts.

I know the previous ceo of genco. The moment it went all Thai he left.

There are multinational waste treatment companies around, but they cost. Simple as that.

[spidermike007]

There are licensed hazardous waste disposal companies.

Problem is, you have to pay them.

In some cases, companies have paid these licensed disposal companies, to later find out it was illegally dumped.

As of 2001, according

to industry monitors, less than 10% of the

estimated 1 million tons of hazardous waste

produced in the country was properly stabilized,

processed and disposed of. The rest was dumped

either into rivers, into open dumps or unregulated

private properties, or at sea. The 25%-state-owned

General Environmental Conservation Public Co, or

Genco, has long held a local monopoly on

industrial-waste disposal - but until recently

only had the capacity to handle a mere 20% of

Thailand's annually produced toxic waste,

according to industry experts.

I know the previous ceo of genco. The moment it went all Thai he left.

There are multinational waste treatment companies around, but they cost. Simple as that.

The issue is one of enforcement. Until the price of being caught is higher than the price of dumping on ones own land, people of great ignorance, and little heart will continue doing so. The government needs to decide if they care. It sure appears they do not. They have to stop using poverty, and lack of funds as an excuse. I does not work nor apply anymore. Behave like a developing country, or admit you are not one.

Mike Macarelli

Chaiyaphum, Thailand

Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

[dcutman]

This toxic waste dumping is some serious (deadly) business. It is obvious it is rampant with little government oversight, and those few champions who dare to expose this illegal dumping, for the benefit to the environment and the health of thousands, are often found murdered.

Just yesterday Prajob Nao-opas was murdered, believed to have been hired by local businessmen and politicians
involved in the dumping of toxic industrial waste in Chachoengsao
province.

In the last 10 years at least 28 others doing the same have met the same fate.

Article in the other paper.

Edited February 26, 2013 by dcutman

[wildorchid]

It's not that dificult to track down the type of pollution and it's origin, and after that take the PIGS too the highest court, fine them heavily, and when they complian "but i piad this peson so much baht" then take that corrupt pig and fine him/her also and sack them never to work in the govenmet sector agian,

make them pay for the clean up and show thir faces and names in news and papers... with a little jail time would be a good thing also.

a fitting punishment i think

[dcutman]

This toxic waste dumping is some serious (deadly) business. It is obvious it is rampant with little government oversight, and involvement, and those few champions who dare to expose this illegal dumping, for the benefit to the environment and the health of thousands, are often found murdered.

Just yesterday Prajob Nao-opas was murdered, believed to have been hired by local businessmen and politicians

involved in the dumping of toxic industrial waste in Chachoengsao

province.

In the last 8 years at least 28 others doing the same have met the same fate. Of course politicians are squarely in the middle of it all. How high the rank of these, one can only wonder.

Article in the other paper.

Edited February 26, 2013 by dcutman

[Thai at Heart]

This toxic waste dumping is some serious (deadly) business. It is obvious it is rampant with little government oversight, and involvement, and those few champions who dare to expose this illegal dumping, for the benefit to the environment and the health of thousands, are often found murdered.

Just yesterday Prajob Nao-opas was murdered, believed to have been hired by local businessmen and politicians

involved in the dumping of toxic industrial waste in Chachoengsao

province.

In the last 8 years at least 28 others doing the same have met the same fate. Of course politicians are squarely in the middle of it all. How high the rank of these, one can only wonder.

Article in the other paper.

When they really come to investigate all of those enormous companies around Kabin Buri, Chachoengsao, and where all the crap they generate goes, it really is going to be a catastrophe.

Rayong is bad enough, but that place is very much out of sight out of mind, massive paper mills, who ironically, built and own the industrial estates. So who is ever going to shoot the goose that laid a golden egg up there?

[dcutman]

This toxic waste dumping is some serious (deadly) business. It is obvious it is rampant with little government oversight, and involvement, and those few champions who dare to expose this illegal dumping, for the benefit to the environment and the health of thousands, are often found murdered.

Just yesterday Prajob Nao-opas was murdered, believed to have been hired by local businessmen and politicians

involved in the dumping of toxic industrial waste in Chachoengsao

province.

In the last 8 years at least 28 others doing the same have met the same fate. Of course politicians are squarely in the middle of it all. How high the rank of these, one can only wonder.

Article in the other paper.

When they really come to investigate all of those enormous companies around Kabin Buri, Chachoengsao, and where all the crap they generate goes, it really is going to be a catastrophe.

Rayong is bad enough, but that place is very much out of sight out of mind, massive paper mills, who ironically, built and own the industrial estates. So who is ever going to shoot the goose that laid a golden egg up there?

IMHO, it already is a catastrophe, We are talking about 40 or 50 years of none stop toxic dumping, each year progressively getting worse. You mention a few areas, but do you think contamination it is isolated around industrial areas? This sh!t is getting trucked all over Thailand to any land owner willing and ignorant to accept it for a few baht.

[Thai at Heart]

This toxic waste dumping is some serious (deadly) business. It is obvious it is rampant with little government oversight, and involvement, and those few champions who dare to expose this illegal dumping, for the benefit to the environment and the health of thousands, are often found murdered.

Just yesterday Prajob Nao-opas was murdered, believed to have been hired by local businessmen and politicians

involved in the dumping of toxic industrial waste in Chachoengsao

province.

In the last 8 years at least 28 others doing the same have met the same fate. Of course politicians are squarely in the middle of it all. How high the rank of these, one can only wonder.

Article in the other paper.

When they really come to investigate all of those enormous companies around Kabin Buri, Chachoengsao, and where all the crap they generate goes, it really is going to be a catastrophe.

Rayong is bad enough, but that place is very much out of sight out of mind, massive paper mills, who ironically, built and own the industrial estates. So who is ever going to shoot the goose that laid a golden egg up there?

IMHO, it already is a catastrophe, We are talking about 40 or 50 years of none stop toxic dumping, each year progressively getting worse.

You mention a few areas, but do you think contamination it is isolated around industrial areas? This sh!t is getting trucked all over Thailand to any land owner willing and ignorant to accept it for a few baht.

Mapthaput is better served than these other places and a lot of foreign joint venture down there have helped to make it a bit better.

The paper boys though are a different proposition.

[Radar501]

I wonder how many of us who criticise the Thais over the dumping of rubbish, enjoy releasing a little banana leaf boat each year during Loy Krathong .

Wander down to your local river, lake or beach the morning after and check out the mess of styrofoam, wire and plastic piled up. And to think that the festival originated so that people could ask forgiveness from the Water Gods for polluting the waterways.

The Thai Government could do well using Loy Krathong as a starting point to educate the people about water resources and waste management.

Edited February 26, 2013 by Radar501

[Thai at Heart]

I wonder how many of us who criticise the Thais over the dumping of rubbish, enjoy releasing a little banana leaf boat each year during Loy Krathong .

Wander down to your local river, lake or beach the morning after and check out the mess of styrofoam, wire and plastic piled up. And to think that the festival originated so that people could ask forgiveness from the Water Gods for polluting the waterways.

The Thai Government could do well using Loy Krathong as a starting point to educate the people about water resources and waste management.

Forget loy kratong. millions of liters of water are going down the drain in 6 weeks time, in a period of drought.

[RubbaJohnny]

No knowledge of politics is required ,rather sewage treatent to understand scum floats to the top

[chooka]

I wonder how many of us who criticise the Thais over the dumping of rubbish, enjoy releasing a little banana leaf boat each year during Loy Krathong .

Wander down to your local river, lake or beach the morning after and check out the mess of styrofoam, wire and plastic piled up. And to think that the festival originated so that people could ask forgiveness from the Water Gods for polluting the waterways.

The Thai Government could do well using Loy Krathong as a starting point to educate the people about water resources and waste management.

You mean those little boats made from rock hard bread, that eventually go soft and are eaten by the fish? Yes I have been guilty of that.