400 Baht Water, 10 Baht Electricity

[jambco984]

Water 15 baht per unit as its posh water with added chlorine(approx 150 per month). 3.5 baht for electricity per unit.

Don't take sh*t off greedy apartment owners.

What's "posh" water? From the klong?

No the added chlorine.

Some of the best water Ive had in Thailand here in Phetchabun.

UPDATE - Not that any of you chaps and chapessess are bothered my water is a 100 baht per month not the 150 previously stated.

The water company wont put the meters in for the 5 townhouses where I live.

Woohoo.

50 baht extra in pocket, thats a big Chang and 5 baht left over

To be honest, I wouldn't care if the water was free or 400 baht per month - that's not a deal breaker...however 10 baht per unit for electricity - that would be a problem for me as I'm a heavy user.

At the end of the day you need to consider your usage and the actual baht value of the surcharge, consider how much you like the apartment, then make a decision. Some guys only need a few fans, and they're happy. For them 4 baht or 10 baht is not a big difference.

I know what you mean. When I first came to Thailand we moved into a so called serviced apartment me and the wife.

10 baht per unit. Every month the bill was 3000 baht, the apartment was only 4000 per month robbing gits.

As you say the water isnt the problem im just being light hearted about it

[tropo]

Water 15 baht per unit as its posh water with added chlorine(approx 150 per month). 3.5 baht for electricity per unit.

Don't take sh*t off greedy apartment owners.

What's "posh" water? From the klong?

No the added chlorine.

Some of the best water Ive had in Thailand here in Phetchabun.

UPDATE - Not that any of you chaps and chapessess are bothered my water is a 100 baht per month not the 150 previously stated.

The water company wont put the meters in for the 5 townhouses where I live.

Woohoo.

50 baht extra in pocket, thats a big Chang and 5 baht left over

To be honest, I wouldn't care if the water was free or 400 baht per month - that's not a deal breaker...however 10 baht per unit for electricity - that would be a problem for me as I'm a heavy user.

At the end of the day you need to consider your usage and the actual baht value of the surcharge, consider how much you like the apartment, then make a decision. Some guys only need a few fans, and they're happy. For them 4 baht or 10 baht is not a big difference.

I know what you mean. When I first came to Thailand we moved into a so called serviced apartment me and the wife.

10 baht per unit. Every month the bill was 3000 baht, the apartment was only 4000 per month robbing gits.

As you say the water isnt the problem im just being light hearted about it

In another place I stayed I was getting bills close to 5000 baht in April, May. The unit price was 6 baht, but the problem was an inefficient air conditioner. The compressor must have been running all the time.

I ended up having a big fight with the landlord over this and moved out.

Where I am now I'm paying low to mid 3000's when it's really hot - that's at government rate.

[LongTimeLurker]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

Sounds expensive, just got my bill today and that's more than double my 100m2 condo in Pattaya.

[tropo]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

Sounds expensive, just got my bill today and that's more than double my 100m2 condo in Pattaya.

He was probably referring to his rent at 3000 baht per month.

[BlackPuddingBertha]

I live in a townhouse. It's charged at the commercial rate. You're not being charged directly by the water board, which is great.

I know. I'm just pointing out the difference for those who don't know.

[Semper]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

AS you say ,each to his own ,personally i would prefere to stick needles in my eyes than live in Isaan:thumbsup:

You obviously have not seen where l live in Isaan. ............................

No farang sex pests, no farang drunks (except me), no ruskies, just left alone with nooooo hassle.

So now we got a couple of Isaan "gun slingers" here in Pattaya forum, I wonder why? Are you bored chaps?

I have yet to make a single post in Isaan forum.

It's never too late.

[Fookhaht]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

Sounds expensive, just got my bill today and that's more than double my 100m2 condo in Pattaya.

He was probably referring to his rent at 3000 baht per month.

Yes, rent. Thanks for the clarification.

[PattayaPhom]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

Sounds expensive, just got my bill today and that's more than double my 100m2 condo in Pattaya.

He was probably referring to his rent at 3000 baht per month.

Yes, rent. Thanks for the clarification.

Good neighbours. Yep, those Khmer speakers sure do smile a lot when they are talking about ya

[infinity11]

So where are the decent places in pattaya, you can rent for under 10k and pay 5 baht a unit or less for elel.?

[thenervoussurgeon]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

AS you say ,each to his own ,personally i would prefere to stick needles in my eyes than live in Isaan

Yes please stay in lovely Pattaya, I would rather stick needles up a certain orifice than live there.

There are certain areas of Pattaya where its not only needles that would be stuck up a certain orifice

Edited March 1, 2013 by thenervoussurgeon

[Potosi]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

You can find fair deals in Pattaya as well. I pay 12k rent per month for a three-bedroom house in South Pattaya, more than 150sqm. Woods on two sides, Farang neighbour on one side, it's as quiet as it gets in a big city. Government rates for water and electricity, never paid for energy more than 1k per month even with extensive aircon use. I'm happy with 29 centigrades, though. Only problem is that the village doesn't get tap water during the high season, pressure too low. Have to buy it from the private tank trucks, 100 Baht per cubic metre. The water bill is higher than for energy at present. Will go down to 200 Baht/month from April onwards.

[tropo]

Government rates for water and electricity, never paid for energy more than 1k per month even with extensive aircon use. I'm happy with 29 centigrades, though.

You use your aircon extensively and never paid more than 1k for electricity?

You're happy with 29C?

That is not extensive aircon use. You're hardly using it at all. Right now on a hot day my room temperature is 29.5C with no aircon.

Keeping only one aircon working at a time for about 8 - 10 hours a day set at 26C in a 200 m2 well insulated townhouse costs me minimum 2000 per month at government rates. If I used it extensively I'd be paying 5000 baht or more.

[BlackPuddingBertha]

You use your aircon extensively and never paid more than 1k for electricity?

Keeping only one aircon working at a time for about 8 - 10 hours a day set at 26C in a 200 m2 well insulated townhouse costs me minimum 2000 per month at government rates. If I used it extensively I'd be paying 5000 baht or more.

Yes. Those figures sound about right to me.

I suppose you could spend only 1KB on aircon if you use it just to cool one very small room by only a degree or three.

[Potosi]

Government rates for water and electricity, never paid for energy more than 1k per month even with extensive aircon use. I'm happy with 29 centigrades, though.

You use your aircon extensively and never paid more than 1k for electricity?

You're happy with 29C?

That is not extensive aircon use. You're hardly using it at all. Right now on a hot day my room temperature is 29.5C with no aircon.

Keeping only one aircon working at a time for about 8 - 10 hours a day set at 26C in a 200 m2 well insulated townhouse costs me minimum 2000 per month at government rates. If I used it extensively I'd be paying 5000 baht or more.

Well, it's running in 2 rooms all night, extensive in time. The automatic doesn't turn them on frequently, seems so. Don't need it the day over, just don't want to sweat in the bed. Had a 60sqm studio before and run 2 aircons with the same parameters, in March and April the electricity bill went up to about 1,500 Baht. I expected the energy bill to rise when I moved to the house, but the opposite happened.

[raro]

We're discussing electricity and water bills. Wonder how the Pattaya and Isaan bashing comes in. Next one bashing something gets a bashing from yours truly

[Phil Conners]

I have my ac set to 28c, colder than that and I feel chilly. It's not so much the temperature that makes me feel hot here, more the humidity, and the ac takes care of that at any temperature.

[tropo]

I have my ac set to 28c, colder than that and I feel chilly. It's not so much the temperature that makes me feel hot here, more the humidity, and the ac takes care of that at any temperature.

I keep digital thermometers/hygrometers in all my rooms. I've found that if my aircon is set too high the humidity will not come down much because the thermostat (compressor) works to adjust the temperature of the room and not the humidity.

.... therefore I need to keep the room a little bit chilly to keep the humidity down and prevent the stuffiness you can get in the bedroom when it is sealed tight with the aircon running. You discover the stuffiness if you go out for a few minutes and then return.

[Phil Conners]

My temperature without ac is around 30-32 so setting the ac to 28 work fine here. I have a bungalow so maybe that why is hotter?

[how241]

Water 15 baht per unit as its posh water with added chlorine(approx 150 per month). 3.5 baht for electricity per unit.

Don't take sh*t off greedy apartment owners.

+1

[tropo]

Water 15 baht per unit as its posh water with added chlorine(approx 150 per month). 3.5 baht for electricity per unit.

Don't take sh*t off greedy apartment owners.

+1

Yeah, you can say that, but if you pass on the apartment they always get someone else. They're not concerned about negotiating.

Indirectly we are all taking "sh*t off greedy apartment owners" in that they limit our rental choices. It also increases the value of mediocre rentals where cheaper electric and water rates are charged as they become more sought after by discerning renters.

On my latest move, I moved to a place of higher rental with government electric rates from a place of lower rental with an electric surcharge. I still ended up with more in total monthly payments, but it helped to balance it out.

... so now I have 3 hurdles when trying to find a nice place to rent. A good price, government electric and water and 1 month's security bond (where 2 months is becoming the norm). I failed on the last and settled for 1.5 months.

Edited March 3, 2013 by tropo

[Para]

I was recently in the same boat as you trying to find a new place.

Standard now is 200THB/person water with electric 8-10THB.

All the old haunts I used to live in have almost doubled their prices which means the Thai's that were living there are all being squashed into the bottom end of the market making it close to impossible to find a reasonable place.

Thankfully I did eventually but it took a couple of days riding around on a bike to do so.

Good luck.

[tropo]

The Russians are quickly filling up all available apartments where I live (Cosy Beach), so my landlord feels I'm getting a very good deal because he sees what type of money people are paying for dumps. As most are new arrivals I don't think they're bothered too much about paying an electricity surcharge.

[infinity11]

There seems to be disconnect between all the construction and increasing prices.

Is it that the demand is also increasing or that the new units are all higher end or greed or what?

Edited March 4, 2013 by infinity11

[bangkokburning]

Water should be no more than b20 per, even then you are getting ripped off.

Electric in a cheap fan room is often more pricey, esp for farang. Flat under 4k only way to rationalize b8+ electric.

Proper bod standard flat, electric 6-7b per.

Flat rate on water should be no more than b150, really 100.for two people. Here in BKK we pay less than b140 and my wife does 2-3 loads of laundry a week. About 5 showers a day are taken. Our water bottle service stopped so until I tesolve that our drinking water also comes from tap.

But as Tropo states - they set the rules and looks like Pattaya/Jomtien has become mote expensive than Bangkok on a number of counts.

Edited March 5, 2013 by bangkokburning

[transam]

I pay 120B/month for water and 3.5B/unit for electricity. I pay 3000B/month for a 60 sq. meter duplex. I live surrounded by forest, good neighbors, and peaceful rice fields.

The "exciting city" is only an overnight A/C sleeper train away (or a 45-minute flight away), but my tolerance of that rat race can span no more than 3 days. Come to Isaan where life is good and affordable. Of course, each to their own.

AS you say ,each to his own ,personally i would prefere to stick needles in my eyes than live in Isaan:thumbsup:

You obviously have not seen where l live in Isaan. ............................

No farang sex pests, no farang drunks (except me), no ruskies, just left alone with nooooo hassle.

So now we got a couple of Isaan "gun slingers" here in Pattaya forum, I wonder why? Are you bored chaps?

I have yet to make a single post in Isaan forum.

I would suggest that a great many of the Pattaya forum readers/posters are sitting in Newcastle or Manchester droooooooooolling over what they could be doing in that part of the world via the constant info eh. .

[Phil Conners]

Talking about water rates, I think there are two different rates: One for private consumers and one for company consumers. Those who own a house through a company are billed the company rate, which is quite a bit more than the private rate. Or did I misunderstand something?

[tropo]

Talking about water rates, I think there are two different rates: One for private consumers and one for company consumers. Those who own a house through a company are billed the company rate, which is quite a bit more than the private rate. Or did I misunderstand something?

Yes, The townhouse I rent is owned by a Farang in a company structure. I pay 353.10 baht per month minimum even if I don't use any water. This covers the use of 15m2 of water. When I go over 15 units I'm billed at 20 baht/unit.

[tropo]

Talking about water rates, I think there are two different rates: One for private consumers and one for company consumers. Those who own a house through a company are billed the company rate, which is quite a bit more than the private rate. Or did I misunderstand something?

Yes, The townhouse I rent is owned by a Farang in a company structure. I pay 353.10 baht per month minimum even if I don't use any water. This covers the use of 15m2 of water. When I go over 15 units I'm billed at 20 baht/unit.

Actually I may have this wrong. It could be 20 units at 15 baht per unit included in the monthly 353 (including tax).

[SunSeek01]

Look down in Naklua around Soi 14, 15, Attaporn, Petch, etc. Also there are some down from Dolphin circle on the North side close to behind Bon Cafe, a bit more probably as closer to town. Soi 14 is 5 minutes from Dolphin Circle on the B Bus, around 5000 / month, cheap elec. and water. Quiet and fairly nice.