anonimus Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Hi there, Please, help me with information. I am foreigner, who had a child with Thai man. We are not married, but baby have his registration and last name. All documents are in Thai, so I have no idea to whom baby legally belongs. To make a long story short, my Thai man and I struggling in relationship and I am thinking on leaving him, because he is broke and he cannot support me or baby. His family is helping but that is not a solution. I am not working, and we are hardly surviving. Question is - is there any government association for child support or any financial aid we can apply? Or maybe some foreigner organization? Please, any answer is more than welcome.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mario2008 Posted April 8, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2013 The baby belongs to you, as you are not married the father can only become the legal father if he goes to court and the court agrees he is the father of the child. Not aware of any child support in Thailand, I believe there are tax benefits. Not having enough money can seriously strain a relationship and the only way out is for one of you to find a decent job. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 . I'm sorry to be the first to reply with no help for you. I wish there was a safety net available but I think there is none in Thailand. I certainly wish only the best of luck for both you and your child. Have you gone to your local Ampure to see if you can get any assistance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think you can get b350 a month from the gov, but not sure how you would apply. Where are you from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The baby belongs to you, as you are not married the father can only become the legal father if he goes to court and the court agrees he is the father of the child. Not aware of any child support in Thailand, I believe there are tax benefits. Not having enough money can seriously strain a relationship and the only way out is for one of you to find a decent job. . Can you please offer the OP any suggestion as to how she or her "S.O." can find a decent job in Thailand?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 you are the legal parent, as you are not married he has no legal rights & there is no benefits system in thailand either. What country do you come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 There is no benefits system and unless your partner was legally declared the father in court you are not entitled to child support (yes it does exist and family courts will issue an order for it so long as the father is considered legally the father). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike123ca Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Those who pay into the government health insurance get 450 baht a month per child under 7 years of age. My wife is from Issan and she has brothers, sisters and other relatives who have families. The pattern I see is they will dump the children and babies on a relative who is working on a farm and the husband/wife seek out work. If there was government money for children, I'm sure they would be collecting. Since, the mother is from a foreign country maybe her country offers child assistance. Maybe her embassy can guide and assist her. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 You are probably talking about the social security scheme, which includes health care. For that you need to be working and pay social security/taxes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnicaleBob Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 The best you can do for now is to contact your embassy orconsulate to see if your child is able to receive any sort of support. Iknow you may not have the funds but you should also get translations of anyThai documents your child has so as to be sure as to what they say. Yourembassy will most likely want to see the translations. Next you need toget a passport from your home country for your child so that he/she can be recognizedas a citizen and to give you the option to return home with him/her. Thechild must have a passport to go anywhere out of Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arjay Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I am not a Thai Lawyer. Thai support there is none. You can go to a temple and get food. I suggest you go to your embassy. They wont help either but, let you use the phone. Call home ask relative or friend send money for ticket. You and the baby. Go home. Apply for benefits your home country. Sorry I'm telling it like it is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MobileContent Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 As many have suggested I would contact your embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuimpge Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Legally, as in "within the laws applicable in Thailand".... Obviously the OP is not sure about the legal status as her baby is born from a relationship involving 2 nationalities, Thai and Foreign, where the mother is the foreigner and as such asking for clarification on said legal status of her child. Edited April 9, 2013 by sbk quoted removed flame taken out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schuimpge Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 As mentioned by others, there's a couple of things you could do: 1. Call your embassy and ask if they have information and/or support programs. 2. Contact your local temple and/or Woman/Children Organizations 3. Check your local hospital for information. Wish you and your baby good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anteric Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 wat nationality has the mother is she here legal do she have visum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmann Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 my understanding ,if you are from the UK and the farther is thai ,you have birth certifecate with both your names ,the baby can have a thai and british passport ,and will need a passport for the baby to leave thailand ,on what visa are you on to stay in thailand ,thailand can be great if you have money ,not so good with out money ,thats the same world over ,only help you can get in thailand is from friends ,but i am sure your local people will help with day to day food ,more than can be said in the west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Pointless and unhelpful flame removed. Please don't respond to these kinds of posts just hit the report button so a mod can take care of it thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lertsang Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I agree with many of the other posts. You need to contact your embassy/consulate and see how/if they can help you...at least call home. I would be happy to translate your baby's birth certificate from Thai to English for free, if that would help. You can contact me at the email address in the attached file. Best of luck to you.EMAIL ADDRESS.txt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbk Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Abusive unhelpful troll posts removed. Do it again and you will be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jampola Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I think it would be quite difficult for the OP to work "legally" in Thailand. Christ, it's hard enough for expats who are skilled to find any kind of work here (which is funny since my company struggles to find Thais willing to work) I can only suggest OP puts her baby first and head back home (depending OP's home country and her circumstances) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABCer Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I think it would be quite difficult for the OP to work "legally" in Thailand. Christ, it's hard enough for expats who are skilled to find any kind of work here (which is funny since my company struggles to find Thais willing to work) I can only suggest OP puts her baby first and head back home (depending OP's home country and her circumstances) I wish the best for the baby. It is totally innocent. My second best wishes are for the mother. She has at least partially contributed to the situation. The response from the members here is quite good, considering the shortage of information provided by OP. Any more detailed advice depends on information OP is not willing to provide. She states father is Thai. She repeatedly ignores requests to state her nationality. A lot depends on this. I mean she can be from any part of the world. West is best for the baby. Laos, Cambodja, Burma, Thailand - not so good for the baby. I am speaking here solely from the point of view of Social Security support. What about the Legal position of OP? If she is illegal in Thailand she can be thrown out without the baby born here. If she tries to procure foreign papers for the baby here, in Thailand - she hands in to the father a weapon that could be turned against her taking the baby out. After all, the baby is Thai. The situation is more grim than not having money just now As to the food - any WAT will provide. From this point alone she is better off in Thailand than in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thailand - she hands in to the father a weapon that could be turned against her taking the baby out. After all, the baby is Thai. they are not married, therefore the father has no legal rights to the child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike123ca Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thailand - she hands in to the father a weapon that could be turned against her taking the baby out. After all, the baby is Thai. they are not married, therefore the father has no legal rights to the child. Can the baby still get Thai citizenship if the father has no legal rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Thailand - she hands in to the father a weapon that could be turned against her taking the baby out. After all, the baby is Thai. they are not married, therefore the father has no legal rights to the child. Can the baby still get Thai citizenship if the father has no legal rights? To get Thai citizenship it must be established who the father is and that the father is Thai, that would automatically make him the legal father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryfrompattaya Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) Try to go home or get to United States a lot of free stuff in United states and rest of Western Europe. Thailand has no free stuff but it has plenty of love and a lot of caring people. Edited April 11, 2013 by harryfrompattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonimus Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Guys, Thanks for reply, I was just asking if is possible to get any gov help.......but I had a bunch of judging instead......No, I will not discover my nationality, but for those who like to know better, no I am not Asian, or Russian ,,,,,,,,,,,,, who get stuck in situation......Thanks, and please, don't reply.........no 'help' needed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonimus Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Thailand - she hands in to the father a weapon that could be turned against her taking the baby out. After all, the baby is Thai. they are not married, therefore the father has no legal rights to the child. Can the baby still get Thai citizenship if the father has no legal rights? It looks like YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Thailand - she hands in to the father a weapon that could be turned against her taking the baby out. After all, the baby is Thai. they are not married, therefore the father has no legal rights to the child. Can the baby still get Thai citizenship if the father has no legal rights? It looks like YES Yes, with a paternity suit the court will establish if he is the father and that will make him the legal father of the child and thus the child will have Thai nationality also, and the father can be required to pay child maintenance. Him becoming the legal father does not automatically means he will get parental rights, that is a seperate step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falkan Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 baby belongs to you, but you cant get any support aka money, and make this a lesson for other girls dont get kids with broke thai guys = no future.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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