North Korea To Pull Workers Out Of Kaesong Industrial Zone

[chuckd]

if i compare north and south korea like that article does it would be totally dishonest not to mention the impact of the korea war and how north korea was destroyed by it. and what kind of weapon were used.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/7811949/Did-the-US-wage-germ-warfare-in-Korea.html

then you might get an answer why north koreans are little bit shorter than south koreans or what ever that article wanted to demonstrate.

silly haircuts and a seperation because of ww2 are not the cause for it.

If it isn't silly haircuts and WWII separation, why are the North Koreans shorter than the South Koreans?

[Gulfsailor]

Could it be that certain factions including Kim Jong Un have had enough of the status quo of the past 50+ years. Maybe he is truly concerned for his people, and is forcing a breakthrough which will lead to reunification of Korea, if he cant get his prople the aid that is is desperately needed. The problem is that neither South Korea, nor China wants a reunited Korea. So what to do as a leader? You force it. If Kim Jong Un plays this put until the end, then there are only 3 possible scenarios;

1) China, the US and S.Korea back down and allow a gradual integration of N.Korea into a reunited Korea.

2) The US, S.Korea and or China back down and send large aid to N.Korea in return there won't be a reunification yet.

3) The US and S.Korea decide to see how far Kim Jong Un is willing to take this, in which case all the way, meaning, North first launches a test rocket, and at still no response, he actually launches a small attack on Japan (he won't strike fellow Korean citizens in the South, as that would complicate the reunification). At this point the US has the obligation to respond, and will take out N.Korean military assets and government. Then the international community has to go in and help.

All scenarios lead to a better future for the North Korean populace.

The only group adversely affected will be high ranking officials of the old regime who stand to lose everything and risk prosecution. Hence the power struggles going on inside N Korea at this moment.

Maybe, just maybe Kim Jong Un cobbled up this entire plan together with the US after China no longer wanted to keep paying for the impoverished country. So the North goes for reunification and in return the US is allowed to keep a military presence in Korea. It also explains the awkward recent actions taken by China, such as the build up of troops near their border.

[ZhouZhou]

Could it be that certain factions including Kim Jong Un have had enough of the status quo of the past 50+ years. Maybe he is truly concerned for his people, and is forcing a breakthrough which will lead to reunification of Korea, if he cant get his prople the aid that is is desperately needed. The problem is that neither South Korea, nor China wants a reunited Korea. So what to do as a leader? You force it. If Kim Jong Un plays this put until the end, then there are only 3 possible scenarios;

1) China, the US and S.Korea back down and allow a gradual integration of N.Korea into a reunited Korea.

2) The US, S.Korea and or China back down and send large aid to N.Korea in return there won't be a reunification yet.

3) The US and S.Korea decide to see how far Kim Jong Un is willing to take this, in which case all the way, meaning, North first launches a test rocket, and at still no response, he actually launches a small attack on Japan (he won't strike fellow Korean citizens in the South, as that would complicate the reunification). At this point the US has the obligation to respond, and will take out N.Korean military assets and government. Then the international community has to go in and help.

All scenarios lead to a better future for the North Korean populace.

The only group adversely affected will be high ranking officials of the old regime who stand to lose everything and risk prosecution. Hence the power struggles going on inside N Korea at this moment.

Maybe, just maybe Kim Jong Un cobbled up this entire plan together with the US after China no longer wanted to keep paying for the impoverished country. So the North goes for reunification and in return the US is allowed to keep a military presence in Korea. It also explains the awkward recent actions taken by China, such as the build up of troops near their border.

A reunification would mean the end of US military presence in Korea.

ask south Korean people what the think about (ask the people not the SK government)

[Publicus]

Might I suggest we approach this literally in terms of semantics.

After the Japanese had occupied the Korean peninsula since 1910,and when World War II concluded in 1945, the Soviets came charging down the peninsula, intent on becoming the new occupiers. However, a thin line of U.S. troops was rushed to the peninsula to form a barrier to the advancing Soviet troops. Having halted the Soviet advance, the U.S. and the Soviet Union agreed the Soviets could keep land they occupied, i.e., north of the 38th parallel, while the U.S. became the protector of the peninsula south of the parallel.

You are reading a magazine, not a History book.

The division at the 38th parallel was agreed on between the US and the USSR - after it was selected by the future Sec State Dean Rusk and another US Army officer whose name I don't recall - in accordance with General Order No. 1 for the surrender of Japan (which obviously was signed at the war's end). There was already an agreement in principle for division made in places like Cairo and Tehran rather than in an impending military confrontation on the Korean Peninsula.

Which book are you reading?

The same book you are. Your post contains no news or new information to me. As you know - whatever your beef may be - the 38th parallel as the dividing line was arbitrarily selected due almost entirely to its clarity on a map.

[Publicus]

ZhouZhou

so the US is responsible for a divided Korea? what kind of business had they there anyway?

there was also an agreement that foreign troops have to leave the country. and so the russians moved out in 1948. The US did not. so much for the line that the russian were the new occupiers.

later there was also a war, the so called Korean War. the article in that publication doesn't mention it. but exactly that war is mostly responsible for the current situation.

___________________________________________________________________My post in reply is below:

The United States and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics agreed to divide the Korean peninsula after Soviet armed forces entered the peninsula with the intent to take control of the whole of it. It was only the United States that stopped the Soviet advance southward on the peninsula. The Soviets left the peninsula because they had found a guy they had full confidence in to communize the place as a totalitarian state, Kim Il Song, who had been "educated" and trained in Moscow.

The North invaded the South in June 1950. What justification existed for that unprovoked, surprise invasion of the South, which was a peaceful lightly armed nation and a U.S. protectorate? It was to advance totalitarian communism throughout the Korean peninsula, which was Uncle Joe Stalin's original intent in the closing weeks and months of WW II in 1945. And for the last time, the magazine Business Insider is neither an academic nor a historical journal.

[chuckd]

Could it be that certain factions including Kim Jong Un have had enough of the status quo of the past 50+ years. Maybe he is truly concerned for his people, and is forcing a breakthrough which will lead to reunification of Korea, if he cant get his prople the aid that is is desperately needed. The problem is that neither South Korea, nor China wants a reunited Korea. So what to do as a leader? You force it. If Kim Jong Un plays this put until the end, then there are only 3 possible scenarios;

1) China, the US and S.Korea back down and allow a gradual integration of N.Korea into a reunited Korea.

2) The US, S.Korea and or China back down and send large aid to N.Korea in return there won't be a reunification yet.

3) The US and S.Korea decide to see how far Kim Jong Un is willing to take this, in which case all the way, meaning, North first launches a test rocket, and at still no response, he actually launches a small attack on Japan (he won't strike fellow Korean citizens in the South, as that would complicate the reunification). At this point the US has the obligation to respond, and will take out N.Korean military assets and government. Then the international community has to go in and help.

All scenarios lead to a better future for the North Korean populace.

The only group adversely affected will be high ranking officials of the old regime who stand to lose everything and risk prosecution. Hence the power struggles going on inside N Korea at this moment.

Maybe, just maybe Kim Jong Un cobbled up this entire plan together with the US after China no longer wanted to keep paying for the impoverished country. So the North goes for reunification and in return the US is allowed to keep a military presence in Korea. It also explains the awkward recent actions taken by China, such as the build up of troops near their border.

A reunification would mean the end of US military presence in Korea.

ask south Korean people what the think about (ask the people not the SK government)

Le's ask them right now if they want the US military presence in their country. The US military presence is the only reason the North hasn't already taken action against the South.

I seriously doubt there will be many tears shed in the US when/if the US pulls their military presence out of most countries. We have now removed our last tank from Germany, after only 67 years of not needing them there.

I agree completely with Publicus about the Business Insider. You should read up on history before trying to tell us your version of it.