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I lost my playing rights in Asia,Europe and Japan, year of 2005 building this correct swing. Now i got the swing and no place to play, but i can write about it.

Pushing maintains structure + power - pulling destroys it. Your car runs outta gas - gonna pull it to the petrol station? Enginnering wise or with a golf swing, pushing is paramount. Pushing the club back instead of pulling or lifting puts the club always into the same place on the backswing - and then with a proper wrist load the club goes on plane and square automatically. It's funny because it is always in the same place on the (backswing)*. How many players keep looking at their backswings trying to put the club in the 'good place'. It will also develop width - that thing in the news about 'Tiger' working on width, maybe late 90's.

You bet he was being taught pushing!

Simply slightly push the club head away from you - no tightening of arms - feel it as one unit, a triangle ( shoulders, arms and wrists) - hands always gripping, but soft for feel. You just turn! No right or left weight shift like 'classic golf'. Turn - load - fire! You even push the club in and down - direct to your target - THE BALL !

Good grip/setup/posture etc....it works with proper wrist release at impact.....but that's another power package....later

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Hi Greg,

That's an interesting concept - or what I could follow of it! I often find myself (as a right hander) pulling the ball left. Is this possibly because I am pulling too much with my left arm? When this happens however it often seems I have hit further then I would if I had hit the ball straight - although this may be an incorrect assumption.

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I also do this on occasion and hit it a good distance. In my case, I believe it's because I let my hands and club head drop a bit at the top of the swing and change the plane of my swing.

I'm not sure I like this "pushing" concept. The mental image image that it generates for me isn't conducive to a smooth, fluid and extended swing.

Using the same imagery, a tow truck will not push your car or if you are swimming, you're not going to push a victim. Personally, I'm also way stronger pulling than pushing for most exercises at the gym. When I practice swing like movement in the gym, I also use pull cables, elastics etc... I can visualize a push movement on the backswing to help get good extension but I don't see it on the downswing except perhaps with the weight change from back to front. I like the visualization of and elastic being pulled tight and the released when you actualize the swing.

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Topt and Vairhona,


"I often find myself (as a right hander) pulling the ball left. Is this possibly because I am pulling too much with my left arm? When this happens however it often seems I have hit further then I would if I had hit the ball straight - although this may be an incorrect assumption."

I used to teach 'pulling' in Europe decades ago - "pull the left arm thru the ball" or so i was taught and grew up with playing that concept myself. I would loop the club like a Jim Furyk or even Garcia. I always knew to drop it inside as the pros do (very few players can remain on the same swing plane - amateurs attack from the top/ better players shallow out on the downswing). ---Garcia rarely can pull it left, he is way inside coming down -- The pull is hitting with the hands from a steep top (loop amateur style) OR pulling with the left arm which is pulled by shoulder and chest muscles moving the whole upper body forward and an over the top hit. Of course that encompasses a hip turn or clear the left side.

PULL/SLICE same thing except for the club face angle at impact.

"I can visualize a push movement on the backswing to help get good extension but I don't see it on the downswing except perhaps with the weight change from back to front."

If you mean classic style 'Nicklaus' right and left weight shift you are setting up too much unneccesary movement with the golf machine that can go akilter,

as in swaying outside right foot. Does the 'golf machine' for USGA testing move right or left? It winds up (turns) and fires 'at the ball'.

We push the club back creating our width, maintaining our structure and then at the change in directions we explode directly 'at the ball' pushing the club in and down in a direct line strait to the ball. The ball is our target once we have aligned to the flag with 'the machine' - railroad tracks to the flag.

It is a similar feel as firing an arrow from a bow strait to the ball with such explosive power. Why? We are using the ground as leverage! We are not pulling the club thru the ball towards a flag going right and left. We are firing the club strait to the ball in a direct line as an arrow by pushing the club in and down towards our target on the ground - using that same ground to push off of to create tremendous force.

The backswing is behind us at our back - because it is a backswing to our target 'the ball'. Ive always had the concept with numerous images and feel of swinging back along my target line - WRONG !

enough for now - time to eat.....

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The backswing is behind us at our back - because it is a backswing to our target 'the ball'. Ive always had the concept with numerous images and feel of swinging back along my target line - WRONG !

enough for now - time to eat.....

Sorry Greg but you lost me on the last sentence (not the eating part ;-)).
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We are winding up the machine to strike our target which is the ball. My hands get fully loaded at about 180 degrees from the ball which is located directly behind me - just like loading a bow. Then i fire directly at the ball by pushing/throwing the clubhead as fast as i can - directly to the ball. As i push the club at the ball i use the ground as my opposing force to create much more power and speed. You can actually feel it all as automatic and the left hip actually clears from the opposing forces pushing eachother. So we are not actually moving to the left side, but we finish on the left as an effect from the action.

I always played with an upright swing mostly because i felt a better accuracy by making a backswing that was more down the line - and since i was so steep i would have to drop it in coming down - or i'd hit me left foot. When i was introduced to Jim Furyk in Taiwan i said "They say my swing is like yours Jim". He said "Is that good or bad?". He won the US Open that summer....lol

How many people want to hit 500 balls every single day - then you can perform any old way you choose once you condition it. There is a better and easier more efficient way to propel the golf ball. With a proper structured swing the machine operates more consistently with less chance of breakdown. Repetition becomes easier and this frees up the mind to visualize the shot you are creating with maybe only ONE swing key.

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