webfact Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Anti-peace talks banners surface across Thailand's restive SouthBy English NewsNARATHIWAT, April 22 - Banners against the peace dialogue between the Thai government and insurgent movements have appeared in dozens of districts across Thailand's restive southern border region.Banners were found along roads in 45 locations in ten Narathiwat districts, 16 locations in Yala's six as well as in Pattani provincial seat on Monday.The banners carried messages opposing the peace talks between the government and the Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN).Local police collected the banners, while in Pattani, an explosive ordnance disposal unit rushed to defuse what was believed to be a bomb – as explosive stuffed box -- only to learn there were no explosives inside.In Narathiwat, Army Lt Kraisak Rodkarnthuk was wounded in a bomb blast while supervising a bomb squad unit collecting banners in Sungai Padi district.Meanwhile, National Security Council (NSC) Secretary-General Lt-Gen Paradorn Pattanatabut commented today that the recent insurgent attacks and the anti-peace talks banners were the work of other insurgent groups to prove their existence and who might want to join the upcoming peace talks.The next peace dialogue between the Thai government and the BRN is scheduled to be held in the Malaysian capital April 29.Gen Paradorn said officials are coordinating with other insurgent groups in case they want to be part of the peace process."There might be more bombings until the next peace talk is held but will remain in restricted areas," the NSC chief said.The BRN representatives are now talking with the Runda Kumpulan Kecil (RKK) over possible participation in the peace process, Gen Paradorn added.He said the main factors for the discussions remain the offering of justice in several criminal cases, reducing violence in the restive south and the timeframe for reducing violence. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-04-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTaylor Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 "The Religion of Peace"LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted April 22, 2013 Author Share Posted April 22, 2013 Insurgency crackdown heats up as peace dialogues continueBy English NewsBANGKOK, April 22 – Peace talks on resolving violence in Thailand’s far South must be conducted in parallel with anti-insurgency operations, Thailand’s defence minister said today.Air Chief Marshal (ACM) Sukumpol Suwanatat said negotiations and military operations are separate issues as long as the southern unrest remains unresolved.A Thai security team is scheduled to hold a new round of peace dialogue with leaders of the Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN) and other militant factions in the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur next Monday.He said the peace process will take years, but that the Thai authorities have been clear on the framework for the talks.“Thailand’s security officials want to speed up the peace process but we have yet to identify (participants attending the dialogues) and make sure they are authorised representatives,” he said.There are sub-factions in some of the insurgent movements and some militants claimed that their representatives in the talks were not accepted.“Some militant groups are willing to talk but some are not,” ACM Sukumpol said.He said he has instructed the Fourth Army Region to be on full alert in light of frequent bombings in the South and a new batch of trained policemen will be dispatched to the troubled region next month.April 28 marks the ninth anniversary of the Krue Se mosque massacre in which 32 of ethnic Malay Muslims were killed in a government military operation. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2013-04-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Caption Competition: (Bloke on the far right) "Careful, you'll have someone's eye out with that....." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminomadic Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 (edited) National Security Council (NSC) Secretary-General Lt-Gen Paradorn Pattanatabut commented today that the recent insurgent attacks and the anti-peace talks banners were the work of other insurgent groups to prove their existence and who might want to join the upcoming peace talks. "WOW....... you got who to sit down with you because you did what?? Holy camel..... sounds like I should start that Asswad Liberation Front I've always been telling the girls I'm gonna get going and get me a piece of the action! Hey, anybody got any C4?" Edited April 22, 2013 by seminomadic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 "new round of peace dialogue with leaders of the Barisan Revolusi Nasional (BRN) and other militant factions"What's this about the 'other militant factions'? I may have missed it, but I thought the new talks would only be with the BRN ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Looks like it might be up to the Dems to show the way here, Perhaps Abhisit can broker a peace deal , sure would be niece to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I love the use of the word restive. It's like someone having a bad nights sleep. Hardly descriptive is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halion Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 In essence the issues in the south have little to do with religon. Religous conflicts are the effect and not the cause. These terrorist do it simply because they can get away with it. The root cause is a highly deficient and incompotent government and an inadequately trained army alongside a disfunctional corrupt police force. Should they really have the will to protect the soverign rights of Thailand this could be controlled in 3 to 4 months. Truth is that they have neither the ability or the balls to do this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellodolly Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 In essence the issues in the south have little to do with religon. Religous conflicts are the effect and not the cause. These terrorist do it simply because they can get away with it. The root cause is a highly deficient and incompotent government and an inadequately trained army alongside a disfunctional corrupt police force. Should they really have the will to protect the soverign rights of Thailand this could be controlled in 3 to 4 months. Truth is that they have neither the ability or the balls to do this. Well we all know it is a religious based movement. It is being carried on all over the world. Some countries they are just moving in and multiplying while they destroy the social services. Others they are using bombs and in others they are being very peaceful because they do not have enough people of the same faith in the country. Even Nations where they are the predominate religion suffer from there attacks. There is no rhyme or reason to there actions. Just a religion that treats women as second class citizens started by a man who worked for his wife and wrote some books and in one of them before he flew off to heaven on a winged horse he said kill the infidels. Now they like the Christians have divided up into different brands and consider the other ones to be infidels. If it had not been for Genghis Khans desire to conquer China the problem would not exist today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locationthailand Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 In essence the issues in the south have little to do with religon. Religous conflicts are the effect and not the cause. These terrorist do it simply because they can get away with it. The root cause is a highly deficient and incompotent government and an inadequately trained army alongside a disfunctional corrupt police force. Should they really have the will to protect the soverign rights of Thailand this could be controlled in 3 to 4 months. Truth is that they have neither the ability or the balls to do this. Well we all know it is a religious based movement. It is being carried on all over the world. Some countries they are just moving in and multiplying while they destroy the social services. Others they are using bombs and in others they are being very peaceful because they do not have enough people of the same faith in the country. Even Nations where they are the predominate religion suffer from there attacks. There is no rhyme or reason to there actions. Just a religion that treats women as second class citizens started by a man who worked for his wife and wrote some books and in one of them before he flew off to heaven on a winged horse he said kill the infidels. Now they like the Christians have divided up into different brands and consider the other ones to be infidels. If it had not been for Genghis Khans desire to conquer China the problem would not exist today. Don't forget the dedication to the black rock they encircle, that fell from the sky that must have come from him, held in the Hajj. But then you really don't need this excuse to bomb, maim and kill innocent people in the name of .... I am all for delivering them back to Malaysia and take their backward beliefs with them. Why is it people need a crutch and accept mindless brainwashing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hellodolly Posted April 23, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2013 A friend of mine sent this to me. I feel it is very apropos to the situation here in Thailand It is gives a different perspective on news Shocked?Horrified? Grief-stricken? Determined? Yes, Bostonresidents who voiced those feelings passed throughthe media filters and were interviewed oncamera. Butangry? Deeply angry at what happened at theMarathon and ready to give vent to it? Thescreeners took a pass. The sober sepulchral tones of media anchors, and theirextreme deference to FBI, police, and politicians,form a hypnotic induction for viewers...and theseleaders don't want to break the spell, which isexactly what anger does. Therefore, it's a no-go. Anger is a spark that fires up and spreads. So dampenit. Ignore it. Don't show it on television news.Instead, say this: "Step back, everybody, huddlein your homes, let the pros do their job, they'llcatch the killers, look at the photos they wantyou to look at, remain calm, depend on designatedofficials." This is the new American dream. If you don't show anger on the television news, itdoesn't exist. Out of sight, out of mind. Then, once in a while, media can point to an angry groupthey want to defame: "See, look at those people.They're angry. They're the only people who are. Sothere must be something wrong with them. They'redangerous. What they stand for must be a threat toall the rest of us...because they'reangry." Suppose, right after the killings in Boston, the majornetworks interviewed 50 people who were in a rage.Viewers would start to wake up. That's notpermitted. This engineered absence of anger dovetails perfectlywith the "have a nice day" philosophy. It's allabout "thinking positive thoughts" and immediatelylapsing into a passive invisible state. A culture of "anger-is-destructive" has madeenormous inroads on American life. We even haveso-called experts issuing phony statements aboutthe deleterious physical effects of "negativeemotions." This is preposterous idiocy, at best. The keydistinction here is between mindless outrage andanger directed at those who deserve to be exposedfor their crimes. It's also a distinction betweenbottling up, out of naked fear, such specificallydirected outrage, and expressing it. Unless you believe the American Revolution was fought bysmiling troops who strolled into battle likeglazed donuts sporting muskets. Read Tom Paine's Common Sense, the pamphlet that shookthe Colonies and forced the Declaration ofIndependence. If you see no anger there, you'redead. Inthese modern massacre ops, the media formula workslike this: "See, the perpetrators were brought tojustice; it worked; the citizenry was kept in thebackground; nothing negative was expressed; andall's well that ends well." Keeping citizen anger off the front pages and off thetelevision-news screens is a purposeful pose. It'sreally an emotional lockdown of thecountry. The police not only act as an armed physical surrogatefor the people, they also effect an emotionaltransfer. "You folks don't have to get angry, giveus your feelings, we'll do the job, and we neverhate. We're efficient." This contributes mightily to the sense that we'reliving in a land of androids. Television is the universal teacher Communities and citieslearn how to react, should a crisis suddenlydescend on them, from having watched how it workedin other places---as television showed it, astelevision selected it. "This is how you're supposed to feel, this is when youfeel it, this is the sequence, these are the wordsyou use." Inthis artificial ballet, the last people who aregoing to doubt the law-enforcement bosses arethose who learn from television. The rule of television coverage operates in anotherway as well. Suspects in these massacres, if theysurvive, rarely if ever speak before cameras to anational and world audience, beforetrial. The police don't permit it, and if they did, adefendant's attorney wouldn't allow it, on thegrounds that prosecutors could use his client'sstatements against him in the courtroom. So theaccused are buffered off from the public, kept ina tight cocoon. This contributes to an overall air of extreme caution.The wheels of the machine are grinding; no humansappear to be present. The only officials who speakbefore cameras are trained to emit bureaucraticblather. The public accepts this. They buy thepresentation---idiot pseudo-scientists usingtechno-speak to analyze some species of insect,while also throwing off gaseous generalities aboutthe nation, the life of communities, and thecoming together of good citizens. From the earliest days of television, the vauntedanchors who shaped the role for latergenerations---Ed Murrow, Chet Huntley, DavidBrinkley, Walter Cronkite---gods to the Americanaudience---affected the air of a reformed drunkwho was always walking close to the edge of doomand needed to enunciate his concerns carefully,lest he fall into a pit of actual human experiencewhere he would drown. This became the rhythm, sound, and tempo oftruth. Now, Brian Williams, and Scott Pelley, the keepers ofthat flame, are practicing in the same school ofunderstatement, are doing their slow tap dancearound the rim of the cliff, assuring viewers theyare taking them as far as humans can go withoutencountering details too sordid for civilizedexposure. Among those omissions are the words and outragedfeelings of citizens who demand justice and knowthere is a great con in progress, acharade. The lesson was learned in 1963. After that piece oftelevision coverage, the monarchs of media struckout on a different path. Americans actually sawLee Harvey Oswald, after he was arrested. They sawhis anger. They saw him say, "I'm just a patsy."They saw his disgust and growing hour-by-hourunderstanding that he was going to his end. Theysaw he knew he was going to be swallowed up anddisappeared. And finally they saw Jack Ruby shoothim in an underground garage. Guilty or innocent, Oswald transmitted a disquiet thatwas corrosive to the public consciousness. Thathad to stop. Television could not do this anymore. It was too strong, tooreal. No one individual could come across that wayagain. The government and its media machine would have tobuild a castle and surround it with armed force inlayers of protection. It would have to develop anew kind of language to pretend to a humanity thatwas on the way out. That's what they did, and it worked. It worked, atbottom, because it created a new audience thatcame to expect and demand three-dollar bills, oneafter another, standing in for the realthing. In some humans, when you open their souls, you seefierce joy, oceanic energy and imagination. Inothers, you see dust, and a machinery thatpretends to these things. Knowing the difference makes all the difference in theworld. The dust-and-machine people can voice thehighest ideals and thoughts, but it's allprerecorded. Like media. Especially when it's live. "I'msick in my heart ButI'm not a fool anymore, Iknow the charade is over. Theschemers and liars brought us to thishouse Inthe middle of the night Andtold us what the world was. "I'msick in my heart ButI'm not a fool anymore, Iknow the charade is over. Thesellers and the buyers brought us to ourknees, Butthis is the end of the trance Thattold us what the world was. "Betweenthe clouds, the moon comes, Betweenthe clouds, the moon races, Newboiling rivers rush down from the mountainsagain." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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