jiangaq Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Today I went to immigration applying for it, but the officer told me no need to apply now. But after communicating with car dealer sales, she told me that I have to go to embassy applying for it. Soooo confusing about it. Anyone has same experience like me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookball Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 afaik immigration dont issue residency certification any more. you would need to go to your embassy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangaq Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 afaik immigration dont issue residency certification any more. you would need to go to your embassy It's a new rule? Even if apply for residency certification for driver liscence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rookball Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 afaik immigration dont issue residency certification any more. you would need to go to your embassy It's a new rule? Even if apply for residency certification for driver liscence? there is a thread just earlier on this. yeah apparently they arent issuing any residency certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mapguy Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The issuance of residency letters is, apparently, an extra service of Thai immigration offices, but experience varies from office to office. Now, the Chiang Mai office is so overwhelmed it appears that this helpful extra service is no longer generally available. Or, possibly, the guy I watched actually completing these letters, might have been hospitalized with carpal tunnel syndrome. There have been gratuitous complaints that 500 THB is an extortionate fee to pay without a receipt implying that some sort of major graft is being committed. What the hell would one do with such a receipt? Americans, I suppose, might deduct the cost on their annual income tax return if they itemize deductions. Inland Revenue is not quite so generous. And so on! But is all this a pain in the butt? Yes, it is, but so are the rules regardless of country. I'm not apologizing for it, but deal with it !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 "What the hell would one do with such a receipt? Americans, I suppose, might deduct the cost on their annual income tax return if they itemize deductions" People want a receipt just to show that the transaction is legitimate, no other reason, certainly not for tax reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uptheos Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The issuance of residency letters is, apparently, an extra service of Thai immigration offices, but experience varies from office to office. Now, the Chiang Mai office is so overwhelmed it appears that this helpful extra service is no longer generally available. Or, possibly, the guy I watched actually completing these letters, might have been hospitalized with carpal tunnel syndrome. There have been gratuitous complaints that 500 THB is an extortionate fee to pay without a receipt implying that some sort of major graft is being committed. What the hell would one do with such a receipt? Americans, I suppose, might deduct the cost on their annual income tax return if they itemize deductions. Inland Revenue is not quite so generous. And so on! But is all this a pain in the butt? Yes, it is, but so are the rules regardless of country. I'm not apologizing for it, but deal with it !!! Some people have been complaining and others just pointing out that they charge 500 baht for a free service. Some people see immigration as whiter than snow and even want to contribute to providing them a better premises or sign petitions, so they can get better working conditions. Whilst mugs are doing that, why can't they use the thousands of 500 bahts towards a new premises too? Personally, I would pay 500/1000 baht for a residency certificate if I needed one and that is the cost, with or without a receipt, but tea money by any other name is still tea money, which is perfectly OK by me but please don't try to turn them into saints, I mean there wouldn't be a movement to canonize the BIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The issuance of residency letters is, apparently, an extra service of Thai immigration offices, but experience varies from office to office. Now, the Chiang Mai office is so overwhelmed it appears that this helpful extra service is no longer generally available. Or, possibly, the guy I watched actually completing these letters, might have been hospitalized with carpal tunnel syndrome. There have been gratuitous complaints that 500 THB is an extortionate fee to pay without a receipt implying that some sort of major graft is being committed. What the hell would one do with such a receipt? Americans, I suppose, might deduct the cost on their annual income tax return if they itemize deductions. Inland Revenue is not quite so generous. And so on! But is all this a pain in the butt? Yes, it is, but so are the rules regardless of country. I'm not apologizing for it, but deal with it !!! I'm curious. Why does it bother or concern you if someone wants a receipt from a government employee for a service rendered by a government agency? Just askin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangaq Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 afaik immigration dont issue residency certification any more. you would need to go to your embassy It's a new rule? Even if apply for residency certification for driver liscence? there is a thread just earlier on this. yeah apparently they arent issuing any residency certificate. how can I apply now? only in the embassy? cause it is more complicated workflow in my countrys embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobl Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 afaik immigration dont issue residency certification any more. you would need to go to your embassy It's a new rule? Even if apply for residency certification for driver liscence? there is a thread just earlier on this. yeah apparently they arent issuing any residency certificate. how can I apply now? only in the embassy? cause it is more complicated workflow in my countrys embassy. In theory, you are supposed to be able to get one from your local police station. This would probably depend entirely on where you are located. I have to say that whilst this is the case, as far as I know, no-one has yet posted a message confirming that they did manage to get one at a police station. For example, I should really get off my butt and get a Thai DL for the car & bike and have planned to try this but I haven't got round to it yet. You might want to print out a copy of the form, fill it in, and pop into the nearest police station to your home with a copy of your lease(?) and see if they'll do it. I'm guessing it just needs a signature and stamp. I would imagine, but it's only a guess, that you might have more luck if accompanied by a Thai/translator. Too much guesswork, I know - until I, you or somebody tries it we won't know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangaq Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 afaik immigration dont issue residency certification any more. you would need to go to your embassy It's a new rule? Even if apply for residency certification for driver liscence? there is a thread just earlier on this. yeah apparently they arent issuing any residency certificate. how can I apply now? only in the embassy? cause it is more complicated workflow in my countrys embassy. In theory, you are supposed to be able to get one from your local police station. This would probably depend entirely on where you are located. I have to say that whilst this is the case, as far as I know, no-one has yet posted a message confirming that they did manage to get one at a police station. For example, I should really get off my butt and get a Thai DL for the car & bike and have planned to try this but I haven't got round to it yet. You might want to print out a copy of the form, fill it in, and pop into the nearest police station to your home with a copy of your lease(?) and see if they'll do it. I'm guessing it just needs a signature and stamp. I would imagine, but it's only a guess, that you might have more luck if accompanied by a Thai/translator. Too much guesswork, I know - until I, you or somebody tries it we won't know for sure. Thank you guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkles Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Australia,for one, doesn't have an Embassy in CM and about time they did,just an hononary consul, so its a very expensive and time consuming task to go to Bangkok.Factor in an o/n stay and you're looking at 1000's of baht, surely got to be a simpler way. Hopefully the boys in brown wouldn't mind an extra 500 b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangaq Posted April 26, 2013 Author Share Posted April 26, 2013 I just came from local police,they didn't know the RC at all, then my Thai friend made a call to tourist police station,they told her I have to go to Bkk for apply. What happen?? Any one has sucessful expereince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 The issuance of residency letters is, apparently, an extra service of Thai immigration offices, but experience varies from office to office. Now, the Chiang Mai office is so overwhelmed it appears that this helpful extra service is no longer generally available. Or, possibly, the guy I watched actually completing these letters, might have been hospitalized with carpal tunnel syndrome. There have been gratuitous complaints that 500 THB is an extortionate fee to pay without a receipt implying that some sort of major graft is being committed. What the hell would one do with such a receipt? Americans, I suppose, might deduct the cost on their annual income tax return if they itemize deductions. Inland Revenue is not quite so generous. And so on! But is all this a pain in the butt? Yes, it is, but so are the rules regardless of country. I'm not apologizing for it, but deal with it !!! I'm curious.Why does it bother or concern you if someone wants a receipt from a government employee for a service rendered by a government agency? Just askin' You're new here, I can tell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NancyL Posted April 26, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2013 Well, at least now your consulate/embassy will give you a receipt for their expensive notarial services and the airline and hotel will also give you a receipt if you have to go to Bangkok for the stamp. Makes that old 500 baht fee at CM Immigration look like a real bargain, doesn't it? But, I guess that receipt is really important to some people and now we all have to pay W-A-Y more. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Well, at least now your consulate/embassy will give you a receipt for their expensive notarial services and the airline and hotel will also give you a receipt if you have to go to Bangkok for the stamp. Makes that old 500 baht fee at CM Immigration look like a real bargain, doesn't it? But, I guess that receipt is really important to some people and now we all have to pay W-A-Y more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyinsiam Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Just got a new car and had to go to the US Consulate (as directed by the car dealer who called Immigration) and pay US$50/1500 Baht for notary services for the Residence Certificate. They have a form. Just raise your hand and "swear". No documentation required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald14 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 If you are saying in Thailand you should really obtain the yellow tabeen baan, opens the door to many things, car registration, drivers license and free health care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Makes that old 500 baht fee at CM Immigration look like a real bargain, doesn't it? Nothing at the zoo ever looked like a bargain to me...all things considered Which is why I always used the consulate But as others said that yellow book does look better & better Just something to get started on I guess Would be interesting to see if the need for these is really dropped or even if the cop shops are doing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vagabond48 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 What is required to get a yellow tabeen baan? I'm not married to a Thai and I currently rent my apartment. I've been living in Thailand for 7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald14 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 You have to ask at the Amphor. I think it is easier if you have a Thai wife and own your house (actually she owns it). I took my passport (translated, my wife and the phoo yai baan and it took a few weeks but it is sure helping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 You have to ask at the Amphor. I think it is easier if you have a Thai wife and own your house (actually she owns it). I took my passport (translated, my wife and the phoo yai baan and it took a few weeks but it is sure helping. The regulations for the yellow house book (Ta Bian Ban) is different from amphur to amphur so you need to go to yours and ask as no two are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyL Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 That yellow house book does not authorize a foreigner to receive free health care unless the foreigner has worked in Thailand in a job where the employer paid into the Thai social security system for the employee. There have been reports of people married to Thais who have received free health care at a local (amphur) government hospital, but once something major happens and they have to go to a regional hospital like Suan Dok, then they're in for a rude awakening, unless they're entitled to participate in the social security system because of their previous/current employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimchibob Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 The Jomtien office still issues the Certificate of Residency. 300 baht, no receipt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) You have to ask at the Amphor. I think it is easier if you have a Thai wife and own your house (actually she owns it). I took my passport (translated, my wife and the phoo yai baan and it took a few weeks but it is sure helping.The regulations for the yellow house book (Ta Bian Ban) is different from amphur to amphur so you need to go to yours and ask as no two are the same.Correct...I have a Thai wife, a house in my wife's name, a Non-Imm 'O' visa, a retirement extension, been here over three years, and I've been three times to get a yellow book, complete with my 500Baht Residence Certificate and all the additional paperwork they said they wanted...but they keep moving the goalposts. I's very frustration... particularly if I have to get a 2,300Baht, or so, residence certificate from the British Consulate, only to be refused again. Edited April 27, 2013 by rawhod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawhod Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 That yellow house book does not authorize a foreigner to receive free health care unless the foreigner has worked in Thailand in a job where the employer paid into the Thai social security system for the employee. There have been reports of people married to Thais who have received free health care at a local (amphur) government hospital, but once something major happens and they have to go to a regional hospital like Suan Dok, then they're in for a rude awakening, unless they're entitled to participate in the social security system because of their previous/current employment. No-one, especially me, is expecting to get free Thai health care with a yellow book, but it avoids all this kerfuffle getting a residence certificate "from where". I for one never objected to paying 500Baht for the "service" at immigration. Those who do are "cutting off their nose to spite their face". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 That yellow house book does not authorize a foreigner to receive free health care unless the foreigner has worked in Thailand in a job where the employer paid into the Thai social security system for the employee. There have been reports of people married to Thais who have received free health care at a local (amphur) government hospital, but once something major happens and they have to go to a regional hospital like Suan Dok, then they're in for a rude awakening, unless they're entitled to participate in the social security system because of their previous/current employment. No-one, especially me, is expecting to get free Thai health care with a yellow book, but it avoids all this kerfuffle getting a residence certificate "from where".I for one never objected to paying 500Baht for the "service" at immigration. Those who do are "cutting off their nose to spite their face".ngkok ncy from Immigration. As long as you stay in major areas (Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket etc.) your yellow house book will be accepted BUT there are numerous government institutions in rural a areas that will turn you away. They will only accept a Certificate of Residence from Immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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