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So I just want my bf to be able to visit the US we have no desire to live there.

First question: If you are denied a tourist visa to the US and then apply for a fiance visa does it work against you that you have already been denied for a tourist visa??

Second question: Do you have a better chance of getting in on a fiance visa or should we wait untill we are married and then apply?

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So I just want my bf to be able to visit the US we have no desire to live there.

First question: If you are denied a tourist visa to the US and then apply for a fiance visa does it work against you that you have already been denied for a tourist visa??

Second question: Do you have a better chance of getting in on a fiance visa or should we wait untill we are married and then apply?

Reposting in hopes of reply

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I don't know for sure... only from my own experiences. We were denied a US tourist visa but then got a fiance visa. There is a lot of paper-work to submit and time to wait before the inverview so you better get started.

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1. He must obtain the visa for tourist. You only complicate the process as it then adds the doubts that he will return even if he would meet the financial and normal return requirements. It appears you may be planning on entry using a tourist visa, get married, apply for change of status thus avoiding the normal immigrant visa process.

2. With the fiancee immigrant visa he would not be expected to return to Thailand as the idea is to get married and remain in US. Even if this is not your intent. It is a slower process but does not require him to have financial means or reason for return.

3. Spouse visa process has been slower than fiancee in the past but believe the present system makes them closer to equal.

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I don't know for sure... only from my own experiences. We were denied a US tourist visa but then got a fiance visa. There is a lot of paper-work to submit and time to wait before the inverview so you better get started.

Well all of the posts that I have read for Thais obtaining tourist visas for the US have just made me really not even want to bother attempting to apply for a tourist visa as my bf is from a small village in the south and is a construction worker so therefor will never have the money in the bank that seems to be needed unless I put it there. So if we apply for a fiance visa, yes I would give it a lot of time. Can I ask you though are you planning to live in the US? Cause I am wondering if they would allow a fiance visa if it was only so he could visit the US.

Lopburi your post was very helpful but I dont really understand number 1. How is it that we would complicate the process? If we apply for a tourist visa and then a fiance visa?

1. He must obtain the visa for tourist. You only complicate the process as it then adds the doubts that he will return even if he would meet the financial and normal return requirements. It appears you may be planning on entry using a tourist visa, get married, apply for change of status thus avoiding the normal immigrant visa process.

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meme, my husband and i applied for a tourist visa when we first married, he was turned down. I did not have a non-imm visa for thailand at the time and most of his assets were not in his name (common problem here when you work a family business).

So, we were forced to apply for a green card, even tho we didn't plan on living there. Took months but he did get it in the end (must not have a criminal record, nor HIV/AIDS, nor TB).

What he did end up doing, after holding it for a few years (the holder cannot leave the country for more than 2 years at a time without getting a special permit), was surrender the green card at the US embassy in Bangkok as he did not wish to live in the US at that time. We were told that it is better to surrender it than to just let it expire (after being out of the country for more than a year) as if he wanted one again in the future there would be no prejudice against his reapplying.

So, the quick answer is they don't care if you don't plan on living in the US because the assumption is that you will be.

I don't think his applying for a tourist visa first made the process more difficult (ie a prejudicial view towards his application) but then that was many many years ago and attitudes and policies may have changed.

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Lopburi your post was very helpful but I dont really understand number 1. How is it that we would complicate the process? If we apply for a tourist visa and then a fiance visa?

I mean you complicate the process even if he had the means to qualify. Putting you into the picture makes his return to Thailand that much more a question mark (I am assuming you are a US citizen or resident). Now if you have permanent residence here in Thailand and a well paying job here that all indications will continue here my assumptions would be wrong. But for most people having a romantic involvement with an American is not a positive point when considering there return to Thailand.

Applying for a tourist visa, denial and then a fiancee should not be a problem. But I suspect they may advise you to forget the tourist visa up front so you do not waste your money.

What I mentioned in Para 1 was how it would appear to visa officer - that you may be trying to bypass the immigrant visa process.

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Lopburi your post was very helpful but I dont really understand number 1. How is it that we would complicate the process? If we apply for a tourist visa and then a fiance visa?

I mean you complicate the process even if he had the means to qualify. Putting you into the picture makes his return to Thailand that much more a question mark (I am assuming you are a US citizen or resident). Now if you have permanent residence here in Thailand and a well paying job here that all indications will continue here my assumptions would be wrong. But for most people having a romantic involvement with an American is not a positive point when considering there return to Thailand.

Applying for a tourist visa, denial and then a fiancee should not be a problem. But I suspect they may advise you to forget the tourist visa up front so you do not waste your money.

What I mentioned in Para 1 was how it would appear to visa officer - that you may be trying to bypass the immigrant visa process.

OK I get it now. I don't nor have I ever lived in the US( but I do have an American passport. I am Canadian), just me dad lives there so I want my bf to visit my dad. I lived in Thailand for a year and a half with my bf and I am now working for a year in Korea ( so my bf comes here and returns to Thailand, if that makes any difference to the US embassy???) and then I am returning to settle in Thailand. I was hoping to bring him home this summer to Canada and the US when I go home for a 2 month visit. I can show proof that I have to be back in Korea after the 2months is over. We only want to be in the US for a week on the way to Canada. We are trying for the Canadian visa first and if we get that then we may try for the US one. The fiance visa would be for in the years to come. I just want to make sure being denied for the tourist visa won't count against us. I really am just trying to make up my mind on wheather or not to apply for the US tourist visa or if it is just a big waste of time and money.

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