RubberSideDown Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 (edited) I got my bike accessories from the States today, which was nice timing as my ZX-14R was delivered to my Kawasaki dealership yesterday- I'm sending most of it to them so they can do the installation as I don't have my stand or tools yet. Brock's QuietKore CT Single exhaust- the can is absolutely gorgeous, and everything is titanium except the CF tip- it weighs under 9lbs including the header and will drop 33lbs from the bike: I also got a PC-V pre-loaded with Brock's street map- it should add about 12hp and add a bit of fuel so the bike doesn't run lean: I will add a set of Brock's (made by Spiegler) ABS braided-steel brake lines front and back and a set of EBS HH sintered pads: Here's a set of Pazzo folding levers (the standard length- I don't like the shorties, especially for the clutch): A Zero Gravity Double Bubble in dark smoke: Some OEM pads for the knee cutouts: And a 'Back Off' flashing brake module so the dummies in cages will have more of a clue when I drop anchor: I was going to grab some rear-sets, but there are issues with adjustment on the ABS 14R. I hope to post a few pics of the bike in a week or so. Edited May 15, 2013 by RubberSideDown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticketmaster Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Nice kit. Since you have the PCV, I highly recommend adding AutoTune and the LCD200. The LCD200 is a little expensive but is really nice piece of kit, giving you real time info on what's going on with any number of things you can set it for, including AFR, lamda, engine temp, gear indicator, throttle position, RPM, and much more. It also makes it much easier and more efficient to create your own optimum fuel maps. For example, you have your PCV already mapped with a Brock's street map, but for what fuel? I assume benzine. If so, and you use E-10, it will no longer be the optimum map. You can map to your specific riding style, getting the most efficient AFR's (around 14.2) at the RPM's at throttle positions where you tend to cruise in each gear, while cutting the AFR for more power (to, say, 11) with a slight increase in throttle position. Or, using the Brock's map, you will see real time feedback, which will tell you where you need to be for the greater power and efficiency in terms of AFR and TP. In other words, it will teach you to get the most out of the Brock's map. I have a great fuel map for my ER which has improved both power and fuel economy. You can also add a switch to switch between two different fuel maps real time. I intend to create an optimum fuel map for E-10, but haven't done it yet as I have been managing to find benzine But when I finish building my house and begin touring again, I will, at times, be forced to use E-10. It will be nice to simply flip the switch and still have optimum performance (with no pinging on acceleration) and economy with that fuel as well. All this mapping business is highly technical and is not for everybody. But if you are a guy who likes to literally keep his finger on his motorcycles pulse, then it might be for you. By the way, I guess you are not so risk averse as I thought you were since you let the shop install your kit. I simply would not have the balls to do that -- ESPECIALLY the electronics and brake lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Wow those are some very nice bits to add on there.Useful tooAmazing loss of weight on the exhaust ! 33lbs. !!! Also anything to improve braking, ( lines & pads ) is always a good investment Congrats & looking forward to pics of bike & impressions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'm very aware of how the tuning and maps work- I had my first PC back in 2000 (on my Hayabusa) and used to tweak my own maps, but there wasn't a great tuner at the time primarily concerned with what was a new model. I talked to Brock before ordering the set up, and explained the deal here as far as the available fuel goes- he knows the 14R better than anyone, and said the auto-tune wasn't necessary for my application. The difference between switching maps would be negligible, and I don't want to be bothered with more electronics as that's just more stuff that can potentially fail- if I was drag racing I would have a separate map, but, frankly, I don't care that much about 2hp or a couple mpg. The weight savings was the main reason for the exhaust- the PC is to keep the engine from leaning out. Constantly dicking around with the thing is not on my agenda, and there are hundreds of people using my set up who I can use as a reference and benefit from their experience. I'm confident in the shop that is doing the install- I already met with the mechanics and went over everything. The next thing will be an ECU reflash, but that won't happen for a while as I'll have to send the unit to the States or buy a complete unit to do it myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Wow those are some very nice bits to add on there. Useful too Amazing loss of weight on the exhaust ! 33lbs. !!! Also anything to improve braking, ( lines & pads ) is always a good investment Congrats & looking forward to pics of bike & impressions Thanks- the stock exhaust is stupidly huge- even slip-ons drop close to 20lbs- it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 The next thing will be an ECU reflash, but that won't happen for a while as I'll have to send the unit to the States or buy a complete unit to do it myself. So the PC5 only deals with fuel control? By re-flashing you will do some engine timing adjustments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 cool parts! i afraid to ask their cost though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candypants Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 in a passive aggressive way you just did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Nice choices, especially like the Brock's exhaust. Looking forward to seeing the bike when you get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) The next thing will be an ECU reflash, but that won't happen for a while as I'll have to send the unit to the States or buy a complete unit to do it myself. So the PC5 only deals with fuel control? By re-flashing you will do some engine timing adjustments? The ECU flash does a few things- it adds some timing, but most importantly it opens up the secondary flies at 3200rpm instead of 5400rpm, which frees up as much as 20hp in the midrange- it also disables a 'safety feature' that can limit power when you're at WOT in the lower gears- it adds maybe 2hp at peak so it's not about top end, but it makes a huge difference in the meaty part of the range, and it adds 500rpm to the redline.It also removes the top speed limiter (not that I'll be needing that much...), and it allows the TCS to be switched on the fly (as well as remembering the last settings instead of going back to the defaults when it's switched off- that's more of a drag racer mod as it sucks to take off from the line and then realize you forgot to turn the traction control off when you shut down after your last run as the default is the least restrictive TCS mode). I've read dozens of reviews, and all have been positive- I just hate the idea of sending my ECU to the States as it would suck if it got lost in the process, so I'm considering a new system by Woolich Racing that has the hardware to allow you to reflash it yourself, but it's not quite ready for general release- I've corresponded with the owner and he's pretty close. Edited May 16, 2013 by RubberSideDown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 cool parts! i afraid to ask their cost though. Not cheap, but I got a pretty good discount from my friend who's a parts dealer in the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loserlazer Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Haha. I am sure cheaper than Thailand. Man, your bike will be great. Post some videos once you install them all. And what about an aftermarket air filter? Won't your bike need more airflow for extra power coming from ecu and pipe? Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Very nice bet you cant wait for the bike to arrive. I went with crg levers and crg arrow mirrors. I didnt go with the folding but will be interested in a long term review...of the folding pazzios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 btw i got this delivered monday http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Paddock_Stand.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Haha. I am sure cheaper than Thailand.:)Man, your bike will be great. Post some videos once you install them all.And what about an aftermarket air filter? Won't your bike need more airflow for extra power coming from ecu and pipe? Initially i was going to order one (a BMC) but Brock doesn't recommend an aftermarket air filter for a stock-engined 14R and said to stay with the OEM for the best performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Very nice bet you cant wait for the bike to arrive. I went with crg levers and crg arrow mirrors. I didnt go with the folding but will be interested in a long term review...of the folding pazzios I couldn't choose between the CRG and the Pazzo levers, so I told my friend to send me whatever is on his own bike- all I can say at this point is that they're beautifully machined. At first I thought they were Italian but they're actually made in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Very nice bet you cant wait for the bike to arrive. I went with crg levers and crg arrow mirrors. I didnt go with the folding but will be interested in a long term review...of the folding pazzios I couldn't choose between the CRG and the Pazzo levers, so I told my friend to send me whatever is on his own bike- all I can say at this point is that they're beautifully machined. At first I thought they were Italian but they're actually made in Canada. I thought they were italian too. Made in canada is a plus. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 btw i got this delivered monday http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Paddock_Stand.aspx That looks like it will do the job- it seems better than the local stuff. Bursig was supposed to have the adaptor plate ready for my bike a month ago and it's still not done- what happened to German efficiency? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 btw i got this delivered monday http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Paddock_Stand.aspx That looks like it will do the job- it seems better than the local stuff. Bursig was supposed to have the adaptor plate ready for my bike a month ago and it's still not done- what happened to German efficiency? Thats the problem it has to be perfect . A lot of times perfect=no production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 They told me all they had to do was paint them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 They told me all they had to do was paint them... Paint ordered from China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Here it is- I hope to take delivery by late next week- it looks black because it's in the shade, but it's actually metallic midnight sapphire blue: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 (edited) Here it is- I hope to take delivery by late next week- it looks black because it's in the shade, but it's actually metallic midnight sapphire blue: Yup that is the way I remember them too Seeing it again I realize now why you can lose so much weight by changing those exhausts. I remember standing next to those 3 or 4 they had here in CM Kawasaki & thinking they were really sizable bikes Edited May 16, 2013 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 It's actually balanced pretty well for such a (relatively- it ain't no big cruiser or true sport-tourer;)) heavy bike. ~550lbs (which it will be once the work on it is done) is actually my preferred weight for a bike- 200kg literbikes feel small and squirrelly to me- I considered the S1000RR, but it was just too tiny for my taste (though it's a terrific motorcycle)- I loved my Hayabusa, and I imagine this thing will push all my buttons as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 good looking bike have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSJ Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Do I need to ask if you will show the photos after the new exhaust has been fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'll post a pic when when it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticketmaster Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Here it is- I hope to take delivery by late next week- it looks black because it's in the shade, but it's actually metallic midnight sapphire blue: image.jpg Hmmm, I see why you call it porn! Almost causes a little stiffening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Here it is- I hope to take delivery by late next week- it looks black because it's in the shade, but it's actually metallic midnight sapphire blue: image.jpg Very Nice! Is that Real motorsports on Ramkhamhaeng Road? If so, do they sell full power superbikes now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubberSideDown Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 (edited) Here it is- I hope to take delivery by late next week- it looks black because it's in the shade, but it's actually metallic midnight sapphire blue:image.jpg Very Nice! Is that Real motorsports on Ramkhamhaeng Road? If so, do they sell full power superbikes now? The ZX-14R is only available as a full power model regardless of where it's purchased- there are no restricted versions of it sold anywhere- their Z1000 is also full power- I'm getting the US-spec version (200hp/210hp with ram air- with my mods I'm hoping for ~205hp at the rear wheel, but the crappy local gas may drop that 5hp or so).The only restricted large displacement sportbike that I know of that's sold as new through a dealership in Thailand is the CBR1000RR at Big Wing (and that's only because there's a Japan-spec version- most manufacturers don't make a Japan domestic version of their large sportbikes, but Honda is popular enough to get away with it)- there are also differences between the US and Euro-spec ZX-10R, but Kawi dumped it from their Thai line-up. Edited May 17, 2013 by RubberSideDown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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