Uk Family Visit Visa Application In Kl For Thai - Experience Yesterday

[2yearvisitvisa]

2yearvisitvisa,

True, the word 'usually' does not appear in either the ECGs or the IDIs; nor, indeed the immigration rules themselves.

I used it for brevity rather than copy the official guidance in it's entirety!

You are quite correct when you say that in certain circumstances visitors may be allowed back into the UK when their entry would mean they would spend more than 6 months out of 12 there. It may be because they have an acceptable reason for spending so much time in the UK as a visitor, it may be simply because the IO at their port of entry hasn't checked the dates on the stamps in their passport properly; especially as the UK does not stamp passports on exit.

But this is not the norm; hence my use of the word 'usually.'

I am sure that the majority of members understood exactly what I meant.

Brevity is one thing, but 'usually' still does not convey the meaning properly.

Of course the UKBA, you or me cannot define, 'certain circumstance' when they are so vast and wide, hence why this is not a rule rather, just a guideline with the sole aim of preventing de facto residency.

Just as per the Thai immigration system does not reply on stamps and the Thai ECO, on scanning the passport, sees all the entry and exit dates (along with the photos); do the UK systems not show up dates of entry and departure? My wife was certainly questioned on her third visit and they were aware of the dates of travel (or at least appeared to be).

I am unsure how you know that this is 'not the norm', although if I too were to make a similar generalisation, I would suspect that the majority of visitors to the UK have not attempted to stay for more than six months anyway. However, I have no way of knowing.

The majority of readers, in all likelihood - perhaps - would not have picked up on your words. I, however, did for the reason that my own wife and other contacts have stayed longer. And, what's more, if I a reader (rather than a poster) on this forum, I could have left thinking that's being granted permission to stay more than 6 out of 12 months is rare. That would have been misleading and could, potentially, have a detrimental affect on travel and life plans.

Anyway, you do offer some good advice and this is, after all, just a forum of unconnected people with a sprinkling of, one assumes, past UKBA staff and associated professionals.

Thanks again for the clarification.

[7by7]

Passports are not checked in any way, shape or form when leaving the UK.

Therefore, without checking other countries exit and exit stamps in the passport, UK IOs have no way of knowing when the person seeking entry last left the UK.

It is you who is in danger of misleading readers. Being granted permission to remain in the UK as a general or family visitor (the categories most common among readers here) for more than 6 months out of 12 is rare.

You know of 3 instances where it was allowed.

In your wife's case you say she was subject to questioning before being granted entry.

In you business friends case I assume she was entering as a business visitor, otherwise why mention her profession, as working while in the UK as a general visitor is against the rules.

In the other case he satisfied the IO that he had a good enough reason to be granted entry.

By trying to convince people that spending more than 6 months out of 12 in the UK as a visitor is a simple matter it is you who is doing the disservice to readers.

Have you read the ECGs and IDIs? Do you even know what they are?

[Kevin1908]

Personally, I love the UK - to me its the best country in the world and, I think, the reason why so many people - from all walks of life - are so keen to live there. The UK on 80k a year allows a brilliant life.

Most places in the world are pretty good on £80,000 a year, but that's over three times the average wage in the UK and not everyone earns that.

Anyway this thread is about the experience the OP had in the VFS office in KL.

After tax that £80000 a year isn't looking so hot, new to the housing market, live in London or the Home Counties even less so.

[theoldgit]

This was a thread about a visa application in KL, the OP's wife has her visa so there is no need for further discussion.

Thread closed.